a break from all the Clemson talk to discuss SC's upcoming New Year's Day bowl game?
You may not be aware, but that's kind of a big deal.
You may not be aware, but that's kind of a big deal.
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Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought. Not to long ago, the Outback was a fairly big time bowl bid as were the other Jan. 1 bowl games. At any rate, this bowl has very meaningful implications for our program. Beating a media darling like Harbaugh and Michigan can only help Muschamp as he continues to mold his own playoff contender.a break from all the Clemson talk to discuss SC's upcoming New Year's Day bowl game?
You may not be aware, but that's kind of a big deal.
are you basing this off of fact or just your personal opinion?Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought. Not to long ago, the Outback was a fairly big time bowl bid as were the other Jan. 1 bowl games. At any rate, this bowl has very meaningful implications for our program. Beating a media darling like Harbaugh and Michigan can only help Muschamp as he continues to mold his own playoff contender.
Well said. Why Harbaugh gets so much love from the press is a mystery, but if we top UM it can only help our program. That said, they have a ton of talent...it would be our biggest victory under CWM.Beating a media darling like Harbaugh and Michigan can only help Muschamp as he continues to mold his own playoff contender.
Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought. Not to long ago, the Outback was a fairly big time bowl bid as were the other Jan. 1 bowl games. At any rate, this bowl has very meaningful implications for our program. Beating a media darling like Harbaugh and Michigan can only help Muschamp as he continues to mold his own playoff contender.
Would love to see another Clowneyesque hit late in the game from our side good for 4 more years of video! You know, one that ESPN will show a thousand times.
This is not true! All bowls became much more irrelevant when the quantity of bowls went from 18-20 up to 45! It used to be an earned privilege to be qualified to be bowl eligible. When the NCAA had to start giving less than .500 seasons authorization to play in bowls, the value of all bowls dropped.CFP has neither made the Outback (formerly Hall of Fame) Bowl more nor less relevant. It is the same. During the BCS time, only one game mattered. Now, three games matter in determining a national champ.
The Outback was not part of this equation even prior to the CFP, so therefore it is no less important than it was before.
Based on the lack of media coverage on nothing but the playoff contenders. Virtually no mention of the other teams in bowels.are you basing this off of fact or just your personal opinion?
I don't believe viewers or interest is down in most bowls.
Amen. This has been an excellent job by Muschamp and staff. We are without doubt heading in the right direction with the program. I for one, am very proud of our University. We are a national product in more than just one sport. Football is heading in the right direction and i could not be any prouder as well. Thanks for the positive comment!Any bowl we make right now is a major bowl to me. We stunk up the field in 2015, then got better in 2016, now we are in a New Years bowl and we are talking about bowl prestige? Hey, it's like we were walking two years ago and somebody gave us a car and then we complain the car ain't fancy enough. Now we have a shot at nine wins and I couldn't be more proud of this team and staff.
This is not true! All bowls became much more irrelevant when the quantity of bowls went from 18-20 up to 45! It used to be an earned privilege to be qualified to be bowl eligible. When the NCAA had to start giving less than .500 seasons authorization to play in bowls, the value of all bowls dropped.
I think there should be "post season play" earned by winning .500 or better. Then there should be top 10 bowls that give the top 25 an opportunity to play quality out of conference games to give great discussion about conference strengths. Then the top 4 teams get to play for Championship.
At the point that under .500 teams started to become bowl eligible the entire bowl system became nothing more than a money grab and reduced the value of games.
All the coaches let lobby for more bowls because they get bonuses for bowl eligibility but also to gain the additional 15 days if practice.
There shouldn't be over 15 bowls, then you won't see players taking games off either saying it's a professional decision?
My sentiments exactly. The college bowls have come to remind me of NBA playoffs. We should not have a college football season. Let's just start the year with a 125 team playoff.This is not true! All bowls became much more irrelevant when the quantity of bowls went from 18-20 up to 45! It used to be an earned privilege to be qualified to be bowl eligible. When the NCAA had to start giving less than .500 seasons authorization to play in bowls, the value of all bowls dropped.
I think there should be "post season play" earned by winning .500 or better. Then there should be top 10 bowls that give the top 25 an opportunity to play quality out of conference games to give great discussion about conference strengths. Then the top 4 teams get to play for Championship.
At the point that under .500 teams started to become bowl eligible the entire bowl system became nothing more than a money grab and reduced the value of games.
All the coaches let lobby for more bowls because they get bonuses for bowl eligibility but also to gain the additional 15 days if practice.
There shouldn't be over 15 bowls, then you won't see players taking games off either saying it's a professional decision?
Have to respectfully disagree with your thoughts on this. I know some of the talking heads on certain sports outlets like to get their 15 mins and make this claim as well. It is misguided in my opinion. Any coach in the fbs will tell you the value of a bowl is priceless. Exposure, practice time for the team, a reward for the players and their hard work. As well as giving the fans a good opportunity to have a fun filled holiday season traveling to a nice destination. It also brings good money to the university. The championship playoff series is great. But so are the bowls. Went to the outback bowl twice ohio st. both wins. also, went to the chick fil a to play fla st. a return trip to atlanta as we had also went to the ga dome for the SEC championship. Had a wonderful time at all of them. Papa johns bowl was terrible. Legion field should probably be retired. it was a great venue at one time. but no longer. and man was it cold!!! but so was the first outback bowl with ohio st. anyway. regardless, we were'nt playing for a championship in any of those bowls either, so i dont really see the big deal. If you get a chance to go, i would highly recommend it. we took over tampa both ohio st games. it was great fun.Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought. Not to long ago, the Outback was a fairly big time bowl bid as were the other Jan. 1 bowl games. At any rate, this bowl has very meaningful implications for our program. Beating a media darling like Harbaugh and Michigan can only help Muschamp as he continues to mold his own playoff contender.
It does not bring good money to schools if they are a low tier game. First, all money is split in the conference. The schools that do not make bowls actually make more money than schools that do not make low tier bowls. On average, the schools that don't make bowls earn $1.4 mil more than the schools that go to bowl games.Have to respectfully disagree with your thoughts on this. I know some of the talking heads on certain sports outlets like to get their 15 mins and make this claim as well. It is misguided in my opinion. Any coach in the fbs will tell you the value of a bowl is priceless. Exposure, practice time for the team, a reward for the players and their hard work. As well as giving the fans a good opportunity to have a fun filled holiday season traveling to a nice destination. It also brings good money to the university. The championship playoff series is great. But so are the bowls. Went to the outback bowl twice ohio st. both wins. also, went to the chick fil a to play fla st. a return trip to atlanta as we had also went to the ga dome for the SEC championship. Had a wonderful time at all of them. Papa johns bowl was terrible. Legion field should probably be retired. it was a great venue at one time. but no longer. and man was it cold!!! but so was the first outback bowl with ohio st. anyway. regardless, we were'nt playing for a championship in any of those bowls either, so i dont really see the big deal. If you get a chance to go, i would highly recommend it. we took over tampa both ohio st games. it was great fun.
Haha! Do you remember the Seinfeld episode where Elaine was upset that her boyfriend didn't use an exclamation when her friend called and left message about having a baby??? Haha! Then the conversation pursued about the over and under use of exclamations? Funny stuff! I try to fall in the middle!!!!!!!!!!I’ll respond without exclamation points.
My response was related to this statement. “Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought.” Did you fail to understand that?
The playoffs are not responsible for the large number of bowls. This predates the playoff. Do you understand now how your response was arguing a completely different point?
Oh, and we are arguing over your thoughts. Outback bowl was way more relevant!!!! When there were minimal quality bowls it was much more prestigious to be in a bowl! Conference divisions devalued the actual conference championship as well.I’ll respond without exclamation points.
My response was related to this statement. “Sad but the playoff's have made events like the Outback Bowl almost an after thought.” Did you fail to understand that?
The playoffs are not responsible for the large number of bowls. This predates the playoff. Do you understand now how your response was arguing a completely different point?
Oh, and we are arguing over your thoughts. Outback bowl was way more relevant!!!! When there were minimal quality bowls it was much more prestigious to be in a bowl! Conference divisions devalued the actual conference championship as well.
Players can get rings for 10 win seasons, ring for divisional wins, ring for conference win, ring for beating a rival multiple times, ring for national championship. All those participation ribbons devalue great accomplishments. Too many bowls do the exact same!!!!!!!!
I'll have to talk about it after it is played. Right now, I don't know enough about it to comment.Anybody want to talk about the game ? Or just bitch about being in a new years day bowl ?
Maybe it's because he's a great, though OCD, coach who's proven he can be successful in both college and the NFL.Well said. Why Harbaugh gets so much love from the press is a mystery, but if we top UM it can only help our program. That said, they have a ton of talent...it would be our biggest victory under CWM.
Anybody want to talk about the game ? Or just bitch about being in a new years day bowl ?
I saw Miami this year and was reminded of our team. They had no offense and a terrific D. Here's hoping Mischa people can get us there with a little more O too.We are mirror images of each other in a way. They have much more talent i have little doubt. Both offenses are terrible. They’re defense is great. Ours is “ok”. How motivated are they?
I am pretty sure it won't be like the Clemson game. Michigan is not nearly as effective on offense as Clemson.The gamecocks' best chance is going to rely on the defense stifling UM's offense for the entire game, creating a low scoring game and giving Bentley a chance to work some magic in the 4th quarter.
I have a bad feeling we'll see something more like the Clemson game, though.
I don't want to talk about bowels, either.Virtually no mention of the other teams in bowels.
No kidding. I watched the Grambling vs. NCA&T game last Saturday. It was a good game.are you basing this off of fact or just your personal opinion?
I don't believe viewers or interest is down in most bowls.