Frank’s shot was definitely off yesterday; not at all like his shot was against the defending national champions at their place. I agree; if he’s not going to shoot any better than that he needs to hit the road.
I'm sorry, which person is being paid millions a year? Was it the guy who's shot was off yesterday or the guy who's shot was off this time last year? Or the year before? I'm just trying to figure out when Frank is responsible.
Some folks just refuse to blame the players. Franks offense had us with wide open looks all day. We just didn't make the shots we usually do. Even the announcers commented on how many wide open looks that we missed.. Players got to make plays at some point during the game and we stunk it up when it mattered. Lawson and Bolden were atrocious yesterday.
Weird that we have the same issues at the end of the season EVERY YEAR.
Aren't those his players that he recruited and he said this was one of his better teams. The responsibility always goes to the top.
You're wasting your time with this one. You may as well talk to a wall. To him it's always the players' and the fans' fault. It's never the HCs or the AD's fault (you know, the ones who are paid millions to win.
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What could Frank have coached into his team yesterday to make them make wide open shots that they usually make.. What could he have Coached into Lawson and Bolden to make them start hitting gimme jumpers
Yes, and those same players have hit those shots in 19 other games this year so they are capable of doing it.. Lawson and Bolden were 2 for 300. A wide open 2 for 300. Frank can't coach the ball inti int basket. Players have to make shots.
If Coach didn't act like a maniac, maybe he could recruit players that could hit those shots. At the end of the day, it is always on the coaches. This is especially true on the college level where the coaches make all of the money and are the the faces of programs.
Those same players have made those easy jumpers all season.. I'll ask you the same question I asked earlier.. When is it ok to blame the players.. I guarantee you that our players didn't walk off the floor yesterday and say , Man Frank can't coach. They were saying.. we played like crap. We missed all those wide open shots..
Doesn't matter that we have routinely had players that could hit shots in late January. Save for the Final Four season, the Frank Martin era has been one large chokefest. A coach can't run from his record in clutch games and we have routinely choked late in-conference with the worst example being this Saturday. Many of the coaches that have hung late season losses on Martin either don't have jobs anymore or have relocated because they got fired. If you can't win when it matters, what is the point?
No, programs and organizations blame coaches. Prime example was this year in the NBA. John Beilein is a good coach that put himself in a bad situation with a bunch of immature players. Guess who lost their job? John Beilein. So, Martin can't continuously hide behind players missing shots. You get players that can, make the players you have more comfortable so they can, or lose your job.
Even Kotsar was missing the little gimmes around the basket; I remember commenting on this in the game thread. Sometimes they just don't fall in. Que sera.
You are complaining about what fans do. However, you are doing another thing that fans tend to do. Make excuses about the officiating. If this was a one game occurrence where shots weren't going in, that would be one thing. However, it is becoming comical how our basketball team does not come through in clutch games, and at some point, the coach has to be held in account for that. Prior to the game, I told my 15 year old son "you know we are losing this game, right." As we watched the game, all we could do was laugh. Our late February and March swoons are so bad that even Stevie Wonder can see it.
If you asked 300 non USC fans why we lost the VANDY game all 300 would say the players missed too many wide open opportunities.. Zero would say it was coaching. Think about that.
If you agree we didn't lose the VANDY game for lack of talent we aren't that far off from agreeing
I agree the defensive philosophy needs to change a little. Playing press man at half court baffles me. My whole argument is about this Vandy game. I get people's arguments about Franks total body of work. He needs to recruit better etc.. I don't necessarily agree with them on all of it. I'm just arguing this Vandy game. There is no way this game can be blamed on the coach that put you in position to make wide open shots that you failed to make.. Especially when they are capable of making those shots. Lawson and Boldens stunk it up and had their worst game of the season and that's what it took for Vandy to beat us
No. The talent that was perfectly capable of making wide open shots failed to make them. The VANDY loss is on the players.. Frank has been questionable at other times but this game the players didn't produce. Lawson, Bolden.. cough...cough
If you asked imaginary people anything, I'm sure they wouldn't tell you anything because they're imaginary. Think about that.
Then he needs to recruit better players who are less likely to always falter in important games. Why do teams that consistently win and make the tourney have more of those type players, because their coach recruited them! Recruiting is on Frank, all on him! If he can't bring in better players that don't have 10 -12 of these bonehead games then we will never improve.
Ole expro will always blame the players, NEVER Frank. It starts with signing better players, whose fault is that expro?
Fans will always blame the Coach.. Players play... We didn't lose the VANDY game by Coaching poorly. Others maybe but not the VANDY game
So who is responsible for recruiting a.higher level of player who makes less bad plays that plague us every single year? Is that the players fault too? Just curious whose shoulders that falls on.
I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand. I'm talking about why we lost the VANDY game. I'm not talking about Firing Frank.. We lost the VANDY game because our players didn't make gimme shots. THE VANDY game was not lost due to poor coaching.. I couldn't care less if Frank stays or goes at this point but blaming him for that loss is just blind hatred for the man.
I didn't blame him for that game, I blame him for consistently recruiting less talented players who are prone to not making plays as needed to get us over the hump. The vandy game is just another example of HIS players not performing well enough or not having enough talent. That is all on Frank and no one else.
