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...that may not be true.or they got offered jobs in the NFL which pay more than their jobs coaching college football
Nope. People got all caught up in his props which should have been the first sign he wasn’t capable of doing his job. He (much like the Muschamp staff as a whole) is a salesman without substance. He can convince people he knows what he’s doing. He can sell kids on knowing what he is doing but in the end he doesn’t know what he is doing.Wolf is a mystery. Seems like he used to be a better coach than he is now.
What's the incentive to try hard when you're making as much guaranteed $$$ as these guys make?Wolf is a mystery. Seems like he used to be a better coach than he is now.
He was better than his predecessor under SOS (Hunt?). And that was all he needed to be.He was never as good as he was cracked up to be.
Injuries? Or did finally solve that by getting rid of Dillman?New excuses for Muschamp next year...
New coaching staff....
Hard schedule....
Young players....
Tanner wouldn't fire me before December 31....
That's a mighty low bar.He was better than his predecessor under SOS (Hunt?). And that was all he needed to be.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking after your previous post. Hunt was the worst hire Spurrier ever made. Everyone on this board seemed to realize it a long time before Spurrier did.He was better than his predecessor under SOS (Hunt?). And that was all he needed to be.
Definitely a toss-up between him and Deke Adams.Yes, that’s what I was thinking after your previous post. Hunt was the worst hire Spurrier ever made. Everyone on this board seemed to realize it a long time before Spurrier did.
No, he needed to be even better than he was.He was better than his predecessor under SOS (Hunt?). And that was all he needed to be.
He’s got 2 years to show me something. I won’t hold my breath because I know he’s not all that, but he’s still got 2 years.
Half right.Brown is the only loss. The others are addition by subtraction. BMac was a very good recruiter but an awful coach
Pro teams make mistakes too, and this was a mistake. BMac did an awful job coaching WRs here- the WRs who produced under him were hold overs from the previous staff. He did a good job recruiting for the most part but he has not developed our young players into play makers. I am glad we get to see what someone- anyone- different can do.
Definitely a toss-up between him and Deke Adams.
Even with Clowney and co. that DL underperformed. They had no discipline and just tried to blitz every play. Remember the fight he and Botkin got in on the sideline at Georgia?Deke was actually a good coach.
The problem Deke had, was that in the 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 classes Lawing got two SEC level DL, Quarles and Clowney. There wasn’t any other SEC talent.
Dixons were good players. Dixon Jr played a ton at DT. Sutton was a pretty good DE for JUCO.Deke was actually a good coach.
The problem Deke had, was that in the 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 classes Lawing got two SEC level DL, Quarles and Clowney. There wasn’t any other SEC talent.
Fair statement. I miss that 2011 line with Robertson and Ingram (hybrid lb) being fifth year seniors. Clowney was a freshman. Devin Taylor was in there too. I'd take the Dixons over some of the slugs we have playing now. I said they were good-not great.Nothing says more about how bad the line was post-Clowney/Quarles than people looking back and thinking the Dixons were good players.
True statement. That 2011 line was legit with Robertson and Ingram (hybrid lb) being fifth year seniors. Clowney was a freshman. Devin Taylor was in there too. I'd take the Dixons over some if the slugs we have playing now. I said they were good-not great.
They were too slow. We should have never recruited them.Dixons were good players. Dixon Jr played a ton at DT.
Even with Clowney and co. that DL underperformed. They had no discipline and just tried to blitz every play. Remember the fight he and Botkin got in on the sideline at Georgia?
Sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree.
Dixons were good players. Dixon Jr played a ton at DT. Sutton was a pretty good DE for JUCO.
Guess it just proves that having a dependable qb is the real key to success-Shaw. Considering 2011-2013 were our best seasons on record.Neither Dixon would start here today, they were too slow and too lazy. Same with Dukes. The 4 classes from 2010-2013 were poor at DL with the exception of JC and Quarles.
Chaz signed here in 2009 after a year in prep school. He was a pretty good player, he had some foot issues that really hurt him at the end. (May have been related to problems other guys were having with UA shoes).
Yep. Jadeveon, Quarles & Chaz were the only SEC DL we had in '13. I always felt Jadeveon struggled with his attitude that season because he felt he was carrying the whole team...and sometimes he did. But he did ball out his last game.Neither Dixon would start here today, they were too slow and too lazy. Same with Dukes.
But we played those seasons with vet DL that were recruited in earlier classes. MI6 was recruited in '07.Guess it just proves that having a dependable qb is the real key to success-Shaw. Considering 2011-2013 were our best seasons on record.
Guess it just proves that having a dependable qb is the real key to success-Shaw. Considering 2011-2013 were our best seasons on record.
Yes! One thing often forgotten about Connor is how much he improved from '11 -'13.Everything starts with the QB. Shaw’s feet kept the other team off the field by extending drives, and he was an incredible leader as well as an underrated passer.
Yep. Jadeveon, Quarles & Chaz were the only SEC DL we had in '13. I always felt Jadeveon struggled with his attitude that season because he felt he was carrying the whole team...and sometimes he did. But he did ball out his last game.
It amazed me how slow our defense looked in '13 v. '12....and '14 was worse.
What did they say?My daughter dated a guy on the team during that time frame. Had a lot to say about JC and his attitude.
Lots of bad coaches keep getting jobs because of who they know. Spurrier may have wanted some more blitzing. But I seriously doubt he wanted his DL rushing upfield on every play. The only blame he has for their poor play was allowing Whammy to hire Deke in the first place.We blitzed more because Sr specifically told him he wanted more blitzing. It was even mentioned in a couple of articles when he was hired.
I remember the fight, FWIH Botkin was running his mouth and pissed him off.
Out of Deke, Brad, and Botkin the only one still coaching any level of college ball is Deke. Not saying he’s an A1 top notch coach, but he’s still coaching college ball. At least Botkin has a job, he’s coaching HS ball.
Wow so a lot of you geniuses blasted his coaching ability. Guess the Steelers look to find the college guys who can`t coach, huh? Maybe it would help if some of you stopped bashing our coaches and let things play out. Can`t knock anyone for going to the pros. My concern would be Scott to Penn St. Did we try to match their offer? We have to pay if we want to be one of the big boys.
Marcus was taken away- two out of three years he was here, and we still won big.Everything starts with the QB. Shaw’s feet kept the other team off the field by extending drives, and he was an incredible leader as well as an underrated passer.
As good as those 2011-2013 teams were, take 3 guys away, Clowney, Shaw, and Marcus, we likely never have that success. Those 3 guys were that valuable. And Spurrier likely hangs it up a few years earlier, changing our program in unknown ways.
We were very fortunate to experience those years, we had just the right mix of players. Hope we can experience it again very soon.
The culture was already set though. Marcus changed the game for Carolina football, his impact can’t be stated enough. Even Spurrier said all the winning started when Lattimore got here. His work ethic and attitude was huge for the program, and it stayed with the other players when he went down.Marcus was taken away- two out of three years he was here, and we still won big.
Sure, I am not discounting him just saying that the guy said we could not have had the success we had without those guys... I took him to mean without their play on the field which obviously is not accurate. He and Shaw impacted the team with their leadership and work ethic. I am hopeful that a few guys we got this year- like Huntley and Doty- may have that kind of impact on the ATTITUDE of our team because while we lack speed on offense, top to bottom we HAVE TALENT. Maybe we just need some leaders to emerge...The culture was already set though. Marcus changed the game for Carolina football, his impact can’t be stated enough. Even Spurrier said all the winning started when Lattimore got here. His work ethic and attitude was huge for the program, and it stayed with the other players when he went down.
What did they say?
Lots of bad coaches keep getting jobs because of who they know. Spurrier may have wanted some more blitzing. But I seriously doubt he wanted his DL rushing upfield on every play. The only blame he has for their poor play was allowing Whammy to hire Deke in the first place.
Jadeveon was a hit with the kids...and really a good guy.None of that is a slight at him. The couple of times I talked to him he was a very polite, funny guy.
That may be the single biggest downfall of Spurrier's recruiting saga. Steve will throw himself under the bus, but he has to know some of his coaches let him down.We literally signed 2 SEC quality DL in Brad’s last four years.