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Do they have what it takes to make us elite in football & men's basketball.
Do they have what it takes to make us elite in football & men's basketball.
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They're just there for their own self interest. I take that back, MOST of them are there for their own self interest. I'm sure there's a few that really want to go in a new direction but when you're dealing with old quacks that have been on there since the 80's and 90's and plus all the politicians, it gets hard to bring any sort of change.
That's the curse of us having a campus within a stones throw of the state house and being in the capital. Clemson's BOT views Clemson's athletic success as a plus for their business. The difference between the two boards couldn't be more stark.This. A bunch of judges and various appointees?? Do you think ANY of those people go to football games? Look at a picture of Clempson's BOT - they're a bunch of business and industry leaders and they all wear orange in any photos you see of them. And we get the politicos - we're the g$#@%& business school, right!?! Pisses me off to no end. Politics as usual.
They're just there for their own self interest. I take that back, MOST of them are there for their own self interest. I'm sure there's a few that really want to go in a new direction but when you're dealing with old quacks that have been on there since the 80's and 90's and plus all the politicians, it gets hard to bring any sort of change.
It is a fateful misfortune that the university is located in the state capital.This. A bunch of judges and various appointees?? Do you think ANY of those people go to football games? Look at a picture of Clempson's BOT - they're a bunch of business and industry leaders and they all wear orange in any photos you see of them. And we get the politicos - we're the g$#@%& business school, right!?! Pisses me off to no end. Politics as usual.
Lol. I had just figured that out. Deleted my post.I'll let you guys in on something. Where it XX Judicial Circuit, that doesn't mean that they are a judge. That represents the part of the state that they are from.
Breathe.
They're still old and have been serving since the 90's. Didn't have a clue then, don't have a clue now.I'll let you guys in on something. Where it says XX Judicial Circuit under the Board members' names, that doesn't mean that they are a judge. That represents the part of the state that they are from.
Breathe.
I'll let you guys in on something. Where it says XX Judicial Circuit under the Board members' names, that doesn't mean that they are a judge. That represents the part of the state that they are from.
Breathe.
Let's see who they hire for a new president. Another Bow tie or another Pastides.They've done well for the University and the campus, which is what they are the head of. The athletic department is only a small part of that.
They did very well with Palms also.Let's see who they hire for a new president. Another Bow tie or another Pastides.
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Do they have what it takes to make us elite in football & men's basketball.
Why do you assume the hire will be underwhelming? The last four presidents we have had have been excellent.Just pay attention to the totally underwhelming replacement that they bring in for President Pastides, and that should answer the OP's question.
They've done well for the University and the campus, which is what they are the head of. The athletic department is only a small part of that.
Because they are under the mistaken impression that the University and, by extension, the BOT exist for the sole purpose of the athletic department, instead of the opposite.Why do you assume the hire will be underwhelming? The last four presidents we have had have been excellent.
As a business major I see the benefit of a successful athletic department benefiting the entire university. You attract more students, those students have parents or extended family that will donate, more enrollment means more alumni base and that turns into more donations, you attract wealthy donors who might be willing to cut a check for a new building on campus. Everyone wants to be around success and winning, it really has no downsides.Because they are under the mistaken impression that the University and, by extension, the BOT exist for the sole purpose of the athletic department, instead of the opposite.
It's why I give significantly more to the University than the Gamecock Club.That’s not why I give to the Gamecock club nor do I have season tickets to watch construction of the new law school building.
All true, but it does not take importance or priority over the University as a whole.As a business major I see the benefit of a successful athletic department benefiting the entire university. You attract more students, those students have parents or extended family that will donate, more enrollment means more alumni base and that turns into more donations, you attract wealthy donors who might be willing to cut a check for a new building on campus. Everyone wants to be around success and winning, it really has no downsides.
That’s true, but the better the athletic department does the more the school and surrounding community benefit. When athletics win the money comes in and it’s abke to spread it to other programs, ie build buildings, enhance school campus, get better support from surrounding communityThey've done well for the University and the campus, which is what they are the head of. The athletic department is only a small part of that.
Priority, no. However it is one of, if not the biggest revenue generator. It's one of those things you have to invest in heavily if you expect to see the returns you wish to see. Hate to say it but Clemson has more members in the IPTAY club than we do in the GC and we have twice the alumni base. My Carolina must be hurting because I get stuff from them all the time "give more, give more, please!". I get more notices from My Carolina than anyone else.All true, but it does not take importance or priority over the University as a whole.
For a poor state, our endowment is pretty good. With respect to My Carolina, I believe at one time we had one of the highest participation rates in the country....not sure if that is still true.Priority, no. However it is one of, if not the biggest revenue generator. It's one of those things you have to invest in heavily if you expect to see the returns you wish to see. Hate to say it but Clemson has more members in the IPTAY club than we do in the GC and we have twice the alumni base. My Carolina must be hurting because I get stuff from them all the time "give more, give more, please!". I get more notices from My Carolina than anyone else.
All true.....which is why you see so much improvement in the athletic facilities since Palms became President.That’s true, but the better the athletic department does the more the school and surrounding community benefit. When athletics win the money comes in and it’s abke to spread it to other programs, ie build buildings, enhance school campus, get better support from surrounding community
I'll admit I don't give near as much to them as I do the GCC.For a poor state, our endowment is pretty good. With respect to My Carolina, I believe at one time we had one of the highest participation rates in the country....not sure if that is still true.
Most people don't.....but it's a much better tax write-off. LolI'll admit I don't give near as much to them as I do the GCC.
Who did you want them to get?No. The hiring of Muschamp should've told you that. We take the cheap route. Win 7 or 8 and pacify the masses.
8 of them have been on the board at least 20 years. Can you say term limits?They're still old and have been serving since the 90's. Didn't have a clue then, don't have a clue now.
It's probably hard for some people to fathom, but academics do come before athletics.That’s not why I give to the Gamecock club nor do I have season tickets to watch construction of the new law school building.
They would send that stuff regardless.Priority, no. However it is one of, if not the biggest revenue generator. It's one of those things you have to invest in heavily if you expect to see the returns you wish to see. Hate to say it but Clemson has more members in the IPTAY club than we do in the GC and we have twice the alumni base. My Carolina must be hurting because I get stuff from them all the time "give more, give more, please!". I get more notices from My Carolina than anyone else.
It's probably hard for some people to fathom, but academics do come before athletics.
I didn't say it doesn't benefit the community, it's just not more important than academics.Winning football benefits the whole community. Don’t believe me? Unfortunately klempson is a good example of this.