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Man I hate Clemson too, but these people weren’t Clemson fans lol. Just a bunch of pissed off redneck scum.
Obviously Clemson fans. The driver is toothless and the passenger is a billy goat. So Obvious!Man I hate Clemson too, but these people weren’t Clemson fans lol. Just a bunch of pissed off redneck scum.
They absolutely have the right to protest peacefully. And I also have the right to call them ignorant rednecks for doing it.Looks like First Amendment Rights to me? Whether you or I agree with this display, as long as there is no violence, it is the right of these 'rednecks' to do exactly what they're doing, expressing free speech in the form of some cloth (flag), some others find offensive. Maybe this will hurt their recruiting? Who knows?
That's Jimbob from Clemson and he's a BIG tater fanVideo taken before Clemson players protest Saturday night
You know the time when you arrive at a social gathering and it becomes clear relatively early that for whatever reasons you don't really belong ?Looks like First Amendment Rights to me? Whether you or I agree with this display, as long as there is no violence, it is the right of these 'rednecks' to do exactly what they're doing, expressing free speech in the form of some cloth (flag), some others find offensive. Maybe this will hurt their recruiting? Who knows?
They absolutely have the right to protest peacefully. And I also have the right to call them ignorant rednecks for doing it.
#FirstAmendment
Along these same lines and i am not for or against the Confederate flag so thats not the question here but how can NASCAR tell anyone what to wear or fly at a race?
How can they pick and choose what they find offensive?
Not sure how that is legal
Along these same lines and i am not for or against the Confederate flag so thats not the question here but how can NASCAR tell anyone what to wear or fly at a race?
How can they pick and choose what they find offensive?
Not sure how that is legal
Sure. This is similar to the argument NFL owners, at the urging of many fans, initially used to prohibit their employees from disrespecting the flag and anthem. The NFL owners were within their right to establish certain standards of behavior of their uniformed employees. The owners did not want to risk customers being offended by their employees. Here, NASCAR is going one step further to make sure customers are not offended by other customers. But, of course, no offense exists in a vacuum. For every customer who might be offended by a t-shirt sporting a Confederate flag, there is, no doubt, a Confederate-flag-t-shirt wearing customer who will be offended by the NASCAR official at the gate who denies him entry into the race. It will be interesting to see how strictly NASCAR enforces the new rule once fans return to races and if they capitulate as quickly as the NFL owners did.Because they are a company in the business of making money and entertainment. The property is private and they have the right to dictate what can or can’t be done on their property.
Looks like First Amendment Rights to me? Whether you or I agree with this display, as long as there is no violence, it is the right of these 'rednecks' to do exactly what they're doing, expressing free speech in the form of some cloth (flag), some others find offensive. Maybe this will hurt their recruiting? Who knows?
Sure. This is similar to the argument NFL owners, at the urging of many fans, initially used to prohibit their employees from disrespecting the flag and anthem. The NFL owners were within their right to establish certain standards of behavior of their uniformed employees. The owners did not want to risk customers being offended by their employees. Here, NASCAR is going one step further to make sure customers are not offended by other customers. But, of course, no offense exists in a vacuum. For every customer who might be offended by a t-shirt sporting a Confederate flag, there is, no doubt, a Confederate-flag-t-shirt wearing customer who will be offended by the NASCAR official at the gate who denies him entry into the race. It will be interesting to see how strictly NASCAR enforces the new rule once fans return to races and if they capitulate as quickly as the NFL owners did.
Absolutely. I always appreciate when people use their 1st Amendment rights to let me know they are worthless scum. It makes life a lot easier when you don’t have to guess.
I can’t imagine this helps Clem’s recruiting. These people make it look like being on an island that’s surrounded by shark infested waters up there for any black person that steps off campus.
Who said it was illegal?Looks like First Amendment Rights to me? Whether you or I agree with this display, as long as there is no violence, it is the right of these 'rednecks' to do exactly what they're doing, expressing free speech in the form of some cloth (flag), some others find offensive. Maybe this will hurt their recruiting? Who knows?
Ideally, we have equal rights to eviscerate one another verbally. I'm not certain we aren't trending away from that. I'm sensing that we are.They absolutely have the right to protest peacefully. And I also have the right to call them ignorant rednecks for doing it.
#FirstAmendment
I don't care for NASCAR and I don't like the Confederate Flag and what it represents. But, I tend to agree with you, I don't see how NASCAR has a right to tell people what they can do and not do.
I didn't dispute that. I merely stated that they have the right to do what they did. You're free to call them anything you want. Where did you assume I thought you had no right to call them anything? They may consider themselves something else? You could assume they are rednecks based on their actions. Do you KNOW that they are, or is that what you believe based on personal convictions?
Again, I have zero issues with your thoughts or rights to call them anything that you like.
That's one of the things that makes this country so great my friend.
The Confederate flag was hijacked by racists a long time ago.Ceased to be about history long ago.It only was raised over the state capital in the 60's when the fight over integration was going on.Kind of an in your face move.
On another note, every person commenting on whether slavery was the sole reason the south fought the war,should go to Gettysburg and re-walk Picketts Charge.No way those country boys walked across that open field to attack Union soldiers behind a stone wall for some rich plantation owners slaves.It had to be for something else.
Personal conviction mostly. About 95% of people I’ve meet, living in SC my entire life, who fly that flag are doing it for the wrong reasons. Maybe those people aren’t redneck losers, but probably so. Maybe I’m being harsh and shouldn’t rush to judgement...but few times have I been proven wrong when seeing that flag with an individual. Anyway, thanks for replying in a respectful way and having a good dialogue. That doesn’t seem to be happening much anymore.