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Clowney to the Browns!

Agreed. Should be a great fit if Clowney's mind is rught. Clowney will likely be single teamed and he needs a big year to get the next big contract.

It doesn't seem like he's really busted his tail since getting to the NFL but has been content to be as good as he can be based on talent alone.

Guess I can't criticize. He's a multimillionaire and should be set for life financially, hard work or not.
 
It doesn't seem like he's really busted his tail since getting to the NFL but has been content to be as good as he can be based on talent alone.

Guess I can't criticize. He's a multimillionaire and should be set for life financially, hard work or not.
Again, I agree. I think his career was similar here. Once he completed his sophomore year, he coasted.
 
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The man is a millionaire, so hard to criticize. But even when at USC, I often wondered if he even liked playing the game, or if his physical gifts just made it impossible to avoid
 
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The man is a millionaire, so hard to criticize. But even when at USC, I often wondered if he even liked playing the game, or if his physical gifts just made it impossible to avoid

Someone else made this point on here some time ago. He seems like a guy whose physical talents just led him on an unavoidable path to football. It doesn't seem to be his passion.

Man, I remember coming into his junior year the talk was about him breaking the record for sacks in a season. He ended up with his worst year in college for sacks, with just 3. Hard to say what his total would have been if not double-teamed.
 
Clowney is just a big kid. Football is how he earns his money. Now he has enough to be set for life. His Mom was always the driving force behind him. She kept him out of trouble and headed in the right direction. Maybe she has become complacent too. There just seems to be no drive in him to be the best. Had he really been motivated, how good could he and Watt have been in Houston? I don't think we will ever know what Clowney's ceiling could have been.
 
Clowney is just a big kid. Football is how he earns his money. Now he has enough to be set for life. His Mom was always the driving force behind him. She kept him out of trouble and headed in the right direction. Maybe she has become complacent too. There just seems to be no drive in him to be the best. Had he really been motivated, how good could he and Watt have been in Houston? I don't think we will ever know what Clowney's ceiling could have been.

Yeah, and it's not really a knock on him that he hasn't pushed to be elite. That's ours and the media's expectations.

Trevor is getting some heat for the comments in an SI interview that basically football isn't the be-all, end-all for him.

We expect that these guys will get to the pros and sell out every aspect of their lives to be be the very best, but they may have different priorities. We think every athlete has to work like a Jordan or a Brady. Pro sports may just be a means to an end for some guys. They're good enough to play it well and make a healthy living doing so, but it isn't what defines them or what they're passionate about.
 
The man is a millionaire, so hard to criticize. But even when at USC, I often wondered if he even liked playing the game, or if his physical gifts just made it impossible to avoid

I've got no problem criticizing.
Junior year at USC he was outright fat and out of shape.
Played to not get hurt.
Has never demonstrated the work ethic or dedication in the pros to fully realize his potential.
His physical gifts should have translated into perennial all-pro.
Frankly, I think the word that best describes him is 'lazy'.
 
I've got no problem criticizing.
Junior year at USC he was outright fat and out of shape.
Played to not get hurt.
Has never demonstrated the work ethic or dedication in the pros to fully realize his potential.
His physical gifts should have translated into perennial all-pro.
Frankly, I think the word that best describes him is 'lazy'.

See my post #10 though. We expect that he should be sold out to football, but maybe it's just not that important to him. Is it fine for him to be passionate about other stuff and just play football to earn a paycheck?
 
he’ll be a beast with him being the bookend opposite Garrett. no more double teams and he won’t be playing 40 snaps a game. he should stay healthy as far as fatigue is concerned. i’m excited! one of my personal favorite gamecocks, and not just because of “the hit”. hopefully the browns can find the money for him going forward.
 
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Guys not to disagree but that micro fracture in his knee has haunted him his entire career . I’ve had the same thing and it’s just a nagging thing that you can’t really get 100% over . I agree that he doesn’t have the JJ Watt , Walter Payton , Jerry Rice work ethic but I think that injury has a lot to do with it . Either way it’s put up or shut up now . With the best young pass rusher in the NFL on the other side he has zero excuses . Myles will get all the double teams and so if Clowney doesn’t put up big numbers this year he’s probably never gonna get that monster contract he wants .
 
Guys not to disagree but that micro fracture in his knee has haunted him his entire career . I’ve had the same thing and it’s just a nagging thing that you can’t really get 100% over . I agree that he doesn’t have the JJ Watt , Walter Payton , Jerry Rice work ethic but I think that injury has a lot to do with it . Either way it’s put up or shut up now . With the best young pass rusher in the NFL on the other side he has zero excuses . Myles will get all the double teams and so if Clowney doesn’t put up big numbers this year he’s probably never gonna get that monster contract he wants .
I agree that he doesn’t have the work ethic as some of the greats. I’m pulling for the kid, as he is a South Carolina guy. I think he’d look a hellofa lot better in Green Bay colors than doodoo brown and orange
 
Clowney is just a big kid. Football is how he earns his money. Now he has enough to be set for life. His Mom was always the driving force behind him. She kept him out of trouble and headed in the right direction. Maybe she has become complacent too. There just seems to be no drive in him to be the best. Had he really been motivated, how good could he and Watt have been in Houston? I don't think we will ever know what Clowney's ceiling could have been.
Didn’t Houston run a 3-4, which is why he played LB. I read an article where he would have flourished in more or a true 4-3 system.
 
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I don’t think Deke Adams did him any favors. I still remember watching his high school film. He looked like a Pro among Pop Warner.
 
Clowney turned down a 3 yr, $57 million deal last year from the Browns, only to sign for one year, $10 million this week.

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Fire that agent my dude.
 
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Didn’t Houston run a 3-4, which is why he played LB. I read an article where he would have flourished in more or a true 4-3 system.

Yeah the Texans tried him at LB (how stupid can a team be - oh its the Texans) at first and then moved him to a 3-4 DE. Also Watt was hurt quite a bit while Clowney was there. Then he goes to Seattle where he was at least in his natural DE position in a 4-3 but he got hurt. Next it was with the Titans where again he was in a 3-4 defense. Cleveland is his last good shot. Hope he has great success. I think the biggest effort improvement he needs is in getting into shape. Then performance on the field will follow. He is going into his eight year. He doesn't have much time left.
 
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Someone else made this point on here some time ago. He seems like a guy whose physical talents just led him on an unavoidable path to football. It doesn't seem to be his passion.

Man, I remember coming into his junior year the talk was about him breaking the record for sacks in a season. He ended up with his worst year in college for sacks, with just 3. Hard to say what his total would have been if not double-teamed.
Not just being double-teamed. Other teams would roll the pocket away from his side of the field. His presence made teams to where they could only use half of the field.
 
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