Yeah and man I miss the slants that Kenny McKinley used to get thrown to him. Are we scraped to throw across the middle
Gotta give Muschamp credit
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Yeah and man I miss the slants that Kenny McKinley used to get thrown to him. Are we scraped to throw across the middle
With a population of roughly 6 million just in the metro Atlanta area and over 10 million people overall in the state of Georgia, it’s a wonder how uga hasn’t been more successful than they have. With that large of a recruiting base in state and no one other than ga tech to kinda compete with in state, it’s amazing how a school like uga could do so little with so much over the years.
South Carolina has less than 6 million people statewide and 2 instate schools who dump huge amounts of money into their football programs. If Muschamp is going to ever get the consistent top 10 recruiting classes needed to compete for titles, he is going to have to come up with a unique tactic. Basically, what would make a 5 star from another state want to come here?
South Carolina has less than 6 million people statewide and 2 instate schools who dump huge amounts of money into their football programs. If Muschamp is going to ever get the consistent top 10 recruiting classes needed to compete for titles, he is going to have to come up with a unique tactic. Basically, what would make a 5 star from another state want to come here?
TAMU got a coach that wanted to get the hell out of Dodge. FSU is not good and ole Jimbo knew it.
They would been a lot better with Jimbo
Florida wouldn’t got beat by Kentucky if urban was there
LSU would be like Bama if Saban never left
Clemson offense was never exciting until Chad Morris came to town
They were 7-6 last year with ole Jimbo and had as much talent as they do now.....much more than Muschamp took over. You can keep Jimbo.
I wouldn’t want Jimbo or Meyer or Dabo
Point is coaching matters. Done settle if u want to complete
What would our record been if we lost our starting QB last year. Our back ups ain’t even good enough to get playing team when we getting throttled in 4th qtr
Klempson does it. Why not us? They are in SC. Bfe SC at that.
Klempson does it. Why not us? They are in SC. Bfe SC at that.
Agreed but if we dont start winning big SEC games in the next few years then you'll be hearing people telling us we can keep Muschamp.
That and the speed of the offense is about what we have seen for a while now (combining the 3rd year here with new "tempo" and his past at UF)...
Probably, but I still believe he is the best position coach we've ever had.
He had been at FSU for 10 years (13 if you want to count his time as OC) and he was in the middle of the biggest recruiting territory in the SE US. The QB was a freshman...after that many years of recruiting, you are giving him a break because he lost a starting freshman QB? Really?
And you give us a break for. Not hiring a proven OC. It nothing to get defensive about. Call a spade a spade. Clemson showed us how to do it. We just need to get the system and coaches to make it happen
I never gave us a break for that. Look at my many responses...we have a proven successful OC on staff, we just don't use him as such.
And Skai Moore and a host of DBs. We replaced a lot of players on D. It will take a little time for this unit to gel.
"Look , I was a huge advocate for muschamp to hire outside of staff for an OC ... That being said the OC Saturday did nothing to lose that game ..."
20-48 run pass ratio had everything to do with it; that and our QB folds like a cheap tent in pressure games.
20-48 run pass ratio had everything to do with it; that and our QB folds like a cheap tent in pressure games.
Its both lines of scrimmage, OL and DL... you cant beat elite teams with the current lines... Its really very simple
It’s called scholarship limit. Just because there is 10 million people in Georgia doesn’t mean you give out 1000 scholarships, I love all the trash talk about doing less with more. What exactly has uscjr ever done. We even beat y’all in your only championship season.
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and most of the 10 million wish you'd stop embarrassing yourself
When the game had long been decided and he was throwing short routes that UGA was letting him have. He wasn't trying to go down the field to score, no urgency whatsoever. The one long ball we had was needed every series after that to try to get back in the game.
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So no long balls mean he "folds like a cheap tent"? Could there be any other reasons? Game plan, play calling, receivers not getting open, defensive line pressure?
If embarrassing yourself is winning sec titles and major bowls then I guess we will keep embarrassing ourselves. See you Athens next year
read carefully now.. i know its hard , your comment was embarrassingly stupid and that makes you.... not smart
There's plenty of blame to go around. The frustrating thing is this isn't his first big game or game against a ranked team and yet the performance has been eerily similar in all of those games. He didn't try any downfield shots to keep the defense honest or to try to get a pass interference penalty, he locked on to receivers when he's plenty experienced enough to know not to stare down receivers. The windows are small enough, you have to move guys with your eyes to take advantage of any space you can create. Go watch the INT in the end zone for an example of what a 3 year starting QB shouldn't be doing.
I am suggesting they have more resources. You can't ignore resources being important or some great head coach would have Tulsa or Tulane or Nevada winning a national championship. Thus it may take Muschamp longer than it will a Kirby Smart at Georgia to change a school to a consistent winner.
Damn! Evidently that was over your head. Maybe I can slow it down for ya soes ya understand. If you have twice as many players in your state than say,South Carolina, and no serious competition in your state unlike say, South Carolina, then common sense tells you that you have more talent to choose from in your state
Maybe this will help, if you have 2 dog biscuits and little Spot has 1, who is more likely to lick himself ? Hope that helps
Some on this thread are sad folks, namely this UGA tool box. By his dumb logic any 1A high school should be statistically near equal to any 5A high school since each team only plays 11. WOW!
You other folks ripping on OC, and champ, and bentley and all the nitpicky stuff also don't understand football very well. Its easy to say run pass ratio was off. However, theres a thing called 3 downs to move 10 before its recommended to punt. When our O line can pass block somewhat, but can't open a hole big enough for a cat to run through, your options get limited.
This all comes down to recruiting. When a team can redshirt 4 and 5star linement and let them get stronger, and atram like SC would lick their lips to get that guy on the field as a freshman, thats a big difference. I think we're a 8-9 win team, and UGA is a 12+
You other folks ripping on OC, and champ, and bentley and all the nitpicky stuff also don't understand football very well. Its easy to say run pass ratio was off. However, theres a thing called 3 downs to move 10 before its recommended to punt. When our O line can pass block somewhat, but can't open a hole big enough for a cat to run through, your options get limited.
This all comes down to recruiting. When a team can redshirt 4 and 5star linement and let them get stronger, and atram like SC would lick their lips to get that guy on the field as a freshman, thats a big difference. I think we're a 8-9 win team, and UGA is a 12+
Let me slow it Down for you it doesn’t matter how many are in your state you can only sign 25 a year for a total of 85 . So that leaves plenty for others to get. I can’t help that they don’t want to go uscjr
First of all, I can't believe people are not screaming at you. I've been on here since 2008, I'm not a sunshine pumper like so many think are only allowed to post on here and you get by with all this rhetoric!!
Actually you make good points. Mushchamp is supposed to be a Def guru and I don't see it. I'm not calling him bad just not super based on what we see. I like him as a coach as he is trying to do it the right way. I hate when people say otherwise about SC or even other schools, I do have my eyes on UGA.
People make excuses about being left with dumpster fire but the recruiting classes Spurrier left were all top 20+ classes. So how can you say talent was depleted? What I think he did do is just accept recruits based off stars and not off need, so if a DB accepted and we needed DTs, it didn't really matter as it was a good player. So yes the recruiting plan slipped but there were still a lot of highly rated players. That combined with 3yrs, although this is his best yr, seems like some of the hard-nosed defense would shine by now?
Hey, broshizzlepop, how many downs of High School football have you played? It's not all about recruiting! Coaching has a big part of that! UGA has always had top 10-20 classes and still couldn't get there. Florida has not fallen in recruiting until recently. FSU and Miami have been perennials and Miami has suffered bad.
Then look at Boise St under Chris P, he turns them into a competitive team. He goes to Washington, they play in playoffs. Washington hasn't had a top 10 recruiting class in years but the coach gets them there. How about TCU, recruiting in top 25 is not common but they have been in discussion for several years due to coaching.
I say it's 40% player and 60% coaching. I played football at one of the smaller 4A schools but we competed with much larger schools annually. That was coaching and believing.
Then look at Boise St under Chris P, he turns them into a competitive team. He goes to Washington, they play in playoffs. Washington hasn't had a top 10 recruiting class in years but the coach gets them there. How about TCU, recruiting in top 25 is not common but they have been in discussion for several years due to coaching.
I say it's 40% player and 60% coaching. I played football at one of the smaller 4A schools but we competed with much larger schools annually. That was coaching and believing.
And does anyone wonder why GU has this reputation. It’s mental midgets like this one who give hem their name
So if every year you have more in state talent than anyone in the sec other than maybe a&m and Florida, and less competition in state for the top talent than a&m and Florida has in their respective states, then conceivably you should get the cream of the crop in state. No?
If not, your coaches have been under achieving on the recruiting trail. If so, then they have been under achieving on the field. Either way uga has done less with more historically.
We lost to a better team that was also more prepared. Until we recruit at a higher level and do a better job at preparation, it’ll happen again.
That's one place I think people underestimated Spurrier. He made us better than our talent. We didn't have those all star classes here when he was here either, but he was able to get us into the top 5 for a few years based on a solid (not great) talent pool. We definitely played above our talent most of the time, but when we ran against a really talented team in a big game situation (Auburn) we folded then too. It showed. We were so close, and fell so far then
All 4 years thank you at a 4A school.
1. I do think you scheme a couple/few extra wins easier on the left coast than the SEC. Good job Chris for not jumping into the SEC fire.
2. Coaching does matter! If I never have to see or hear "mumbles" again in my life that would be great as he ruined our defense and spurrier let him do it. But great coaching with average talent can get you a game or two above average. Well if average is 6-7 wins, I think we can win 8-9, and I'm not saying 10 is unthinkable, but would require some luck and chips to fall right.
3. Great talent with average coaching can get you above average results, hence UGA the prior 10+ years.
4. Great talent and great coaching is 12+ wins. This is UGA right now.
I think our overall roster is slight above average for the SEC. If average were a 5, and above average was a 7-8, we are about a 6.5.
We have some studs and stars, and we also have some space fillers still. I think our first string is more like a 7-8, but we have guys in the 4-5 range.
I think that 3rd quarter showed when legs were tired, adjustments were made, subs played, it was hot, and the difference in depth stood out.
We can hire the greatest coach, but if that person cant recruit top 5 level, then we'll be just an 8-9 win team, with an occasional 10 pop. If we can recruit to a top level for a few years, where we can consider redshirting 5Star lineman because the depth is so good its more valuable for him to get stronger for a year, then you are on the level with UGA.
We get a 5Star guy and we are so excited we want to see him beat the world in game 1 of his freshman year. Its just where we are right now.
I like what the OC did. We dropped a few passes, made mistakes, talent took over.
Our O line cannot run block against a good team and that is a BIG game changer.
So you're suggesting that if we had more money, we could hire better assistants than the ones we have?
