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Has there ever been a coach with a record close to .500 after 8 years that has been able to turn the corner and build a consistent winner? I’ve not been able to find one. Is USC just spinning it’s wheels with Muschamp?
Bill Belichick was 36-44 with Cleveland. He's now the best ever. Saban had 1 good year with MSU(his last) other than that he had a couple 6-6 records a 5-6 record. Coaches start looking like geniuses when they start getting better talent..Has there ever been a coach with a record close to .500 after 8 years that has been able to turn the corner and build a consistent winner? I’ve not been able to find one. Is USC just spinning it’s wheels with Muschamp?
Dean Smith, Mike K, and Frank Beamer pop to mind of coaches about to be fired.
FSU went 5-6 his first year and 10-2 his second year. lol. I'm sure Bowden thought that took too long, but I'd be content with that kind of time frame.How long did it take Bowden to turn FSU into a powerhouse ?? If I’m not mistaken it took a while .
FSU went 5-6 his first year and 10-2 his second year. lol. I'm sure Bowden thought that took too long, but I'd be content with that kind of time frame.
Yeah, I had to look it up. Now, it did take him a long time to win his first national championship - maybe that's what you remember. He had an elite team (often probably the best team) at FSU for a long time before he finally broke through and won the title. I think he had nine 10+ win seasons, during a time when teams only played 11 regular season games, before he finally won the championship.Wow . Yeah that’s good with me
And why would you expect a decent D under Muschamp? His defense hadn’t been ranked among the top 60 the past 2 seasons. That’s not decent, that’s pathetic.If we ever hit the lottery with a QB -- kind of like Belichick did with Brady -- I think Champ could be the guy. Decent D with a great QB is a recipe for victory!
What was Sabans overall record at Michigan state
Thanks. I went to look up myself afterwards and he was 25-22 after first 4 seasonsI think you meant it as a rhetorical question, but 34-24-1.
Has there ever been a coach with a record close to .500 after 8 years that has been able to turn the corner and build a consistent winner? I’ve not been able to find one. Is USC just spinning it’s wheels with Muschamp?
Might want to take a look at Frank Beamer’s career record... his record was well below .500 at Va.Tech (his first P5 job), and it was year 7 before he ever won more than 6 games, I think. He ended up being the most successful coach in school history by a long shot. at a program that was remarkably similar to our own historically.
I’m sure there are plenty more, but that was an example that came to mind after less than a moment’s thought.
I believe the point was comparing records such as Beamers when he was at Virginia techCWM is no Beamer. He crapped the bed at UF too.
It wasn't so much BB was doing something wrong that took him so long to win his first NC, but as he put it "But he had to play Miami". Take away those losses and most were heartbreaking and we have a totally different story.Yeah, I had to look it up. Now, it did take him a long time to win his first national championship - maybe that's what you remember. He had an elite team (often probably the best team) at FSU for a long time before he finally broke through and won the title. I think he had nine 10+ win seasons, during a time when teams only played 11 regular season games, before he finally won the championship.
Beamer was a winner at his first job at Murray State, He had a track record of winning, unlike WM.I believe the point was comparing records such as Beamers when he was at Virginia tech
No doubt you would have something similar about Beamer when his record was terrible in his first few seasons