Has each generation gotten progressively worse

[scbirdhunter]

The debt went from 4to 8 trillion under Bush. In an 08 campaign speech, Obama called that “criminal “. During Obama’s eight years in office it went from 8 to 20+ trillion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/#4ee332a54819

Note the date of this article. So this is not accounting for the coronavirus. But if Obama is somehow responsible for the great recession we were in when he took over then trump certainly has to own the coronavirus that occurred on his watch. His deficits are going to be massive,.

President Obama entered office in early 2009 in the teeth of the Great Recession. Not surprisingly, the deficit exploded from $459 billion in calendar 2008 to over $1.4 trillion in calendar 2009. As the economy recovered the deficits shrank to a low of $442 billion in 2015 and was $585 billion his last year in office.

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

 

[Dizzy01]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/#4ee332a54819

Note the date of this article. So this is not accounting for the coronavirus. But if Obama is somehow responsible for the great recession we were in when he took over then trump certainly has to own the coronavirus that occurred on his watch. His deficits are going to be massive,.

President Obama entered office in early 2009 in the teeth of the Great Recession. Not surprisingly, the deficit exploded from $459 billion in calendar 2008 to over $1.4 trillion in calendar 2009. As the economy recovered the deficits shrank to a low of $442 billion in 2015 and was $585 billion his last year in office.

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

The Rhinos only cared about the budget, family values and the plight of the common man when their ODS was in full effect.

 

[importcock]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...deficits-are-racing-past-obamas/#4ee332a54819

Note the date of this article. So this is not accounting for the coronavirus. But if Obama is somehow responsible for the great recession we were in when he took over then trump certainly has to own the coronavirus that occurred on his watch. His deficits are going to be massive,.

President Obama entered office in early 2009 in the teeth of the Great Recession. Not surprisingly, the deficit exploded from $459 billion in calendar 2008 to over $1.4 trillion in calendar 2009. As the economy recovered the deficits shrank to a low of $442 billion in 2015 and was $585 billion his last year in office.

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

A recession can be blamed on a person but you’d have to be a complete idiot to blame a disease on one. Unless Trump invented Corona or intentionally infected people it’s not his to own. That’s just stupid.

 

[scbirdhunter]

A recession can be blamed on a person but you’d have to be a complete idiot to blame a disease on one. Unless Trump invented Corona or intentionally infected people it’s not his to own. That’s just stupid.

What's more stupid is to blame a guy for a recession that started well before he took office & thus the deficit spending it took to get thru that. That is far more stupid than blaming a guy for a terrible response to a pandemic occurring during his watch.

So who is this person we can blame the recession on? Just curious.

 

[Bubbaglide]

This thread went right down the toilet in a hurry. Back on track. Yes i think each generation got fitter and further away from having to self produce much of what they consumed and it was too easy to get something on credit. Each generation never wanted their kids to have to work as hard as they did. The result now os’s a continuous parade of gofundme pages where everyone wants everyone else to pay for what they decide they need. Nobody wants to work for what they have. Kind of similar to the movement today toward socialism.

 

[TheReelEss]

This thread went right down the toilet in a hurry. Back on track. Yes i think each generation got fitter and further away from having to self produce much of what they consumed and it was too easy to get something on credit. Each generation never wanted their kids to have to work as hard as they did. The result now os’s a continuous parade of gofundme pages where everyone wants everyone else to pay for what they decide they need. Nobody wants to work for what they have. Kind of similar to the movement today toward socialism.

Good response. I see things that are better now and things that are worse. The entitled attitude of people in this country is the worst it has ever been.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

― Benjamin Franklin

 

[paladin181]

A survey of working Americans and the size of firms hiring them doesn’t have to “say” people without jobs aren’t included

"This survey about the percentage of brown horses to other colors doesn't include cows. It didn't SAY it wasn't including cows"

 

[paladin181]

And you put that over abolishing Slavery and Civil rights?

Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. Congress did after he died. The Emancipation Proclamation was a political tactic to sow civil unrest in the South. It only freed slaves in "States in rebellion" and did not apply to northern states (where slave owners were still free to keep their slaves) or to territories captured by the North during the war. Lincoln freeing slaves, and even his "burning desire" to do so was a myth. He wanted to save the country, and if it meant freeing slaves, so be it. If it meant not freeing slaves, he was down with that too.

 

[Lurker123]

The Rhinos only cared about the budget, family values and the plight of the common man when their ODS was in full effect.

And the democrats only care about deficits when the Republicans are running them up.

Great, they are both hypocrites, and both spending way too much money.

I dont see either side slowing down. Which sucks for us.

 

[Thirdcatgy]

Since the founding of our country? Granted, some generations moved the needle much more than others but this seems to me anyway about right. It’s looking more and more like our once wonderful country is about to collapse Thoughts?

Like anything else, there's good and bad. IMO, the two biggest concerns of today are:

- Sense of Purpose. The farther we get from the "greatest generation", the further we get from unification as a nation.

- Technology. It's gotten way ahead of our genome and we accept things like 5G in blind faith. That's radiation (along with WIFI, dirty electricity, etc) traveling through our brains and bodies 24/7 and the long-term consequences are unknown b/c it hasn't been tested.

 

[cocks rule]

No more crime in NY, Seattle, Minneapolis and a lot of other cities because apparently EVERYTHING is legal now. People are just rolling up in cars and blowing people away in broad daylight. Not looking too good for the old school law abiding citizens. Hopefully some of you make it out alive. My prayers are with you.