"There are some things that I and others in the league office do need to, and plan to look at closely, from this game."
Well, isn't that terrific.
Well, isn't that terrific.
Head of SEC officials Steve Shaw says ....
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He needs to work on his grammar too!
They need to get some young men to call the games. These 55+ guys are obviously too old for this.
What is he talking about, re-balancing his 401k?
Not only too old but a lot are fat and need to pass up the dessert bar for at least a year-trying to run up and down the field with kids in their teens and early 20s.
This how Dari Knowkah quoted him on SEC now this morning. He could have been paraphrasing.He needs to work on his grammar too!
What they can do is suspend the entire crew or even replace certain members of a crew for bad performances. I am certain there is no shortage of referees lining up for an opportunity to work Saturday games in the SEC.
These 55+ guys are too invested in getting the conference into the playoffs.
As Jeff Foxworthy might say, “If you’re going back for 3rds at the Golden Corral, you may be an SEC referee”.
Why such a bias against people 55 and older? Stop stereotyping people. One of these days you will be 55 and older and you will feel the other side of it. People are people and they are different regardless of age and other human factors.
I've always thought there should be an age cap due to what's at stake with the outcome of these games.
Stereotyping
Two things to consider: these refs were clearly not good and most people peak at much younger than 55 when it comes to running around a field and making snap judgements based on visually tracking fast moving objects.
You’re right that I’m stereotyping, in that there are plenty of healthy 56 year old people out there that could ref a game pretty well. My point is that same guy would likely have been keener with more endurance at 40.
I'm over 55 and I hope you all make it there. But then again whatever the age of these refs they do need to push back from the table a little. I don't think the age thing is the right way to go there are so physical capacities you should have to attain. As Clint Eastwood said you have to know your limitations and as the country song goes I'm as good once as I've ever been
“They wouldn’t call it a stereotype if it wasn’t 99% true.”
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If Jimmy Harper can still move at all, I'll take him as a white hat anytime.
This officiating thing is a dead issue. It's like complaining about the wind. Yes, we got the short end of the stick yesterday and maybe it could have had an impact on the final outcome. But it doesn't matter.
If we want to file a complaint, it will be heard and they will move on. Still an "L" and our minds will naturally move onto new issues within a week or two. Don't fight reality.
If we want to file a complaint, it will be heard and they will move on. Still an "L" and our minds will naturally move onto new issues within a week or two. Don't fight reality.
That may be age discrimination but you could handle it in other ways like physicals and the ability to run 100 yards to keep up with the plays. That would cull most of them.
The play that I still can't get over is the one where the UFs RB broke loose and running down the field and another UF player holding Israel Mukuamu by the jersey for 30-40 yards. Why not just tackle Mukuamu and not have to worry about him.
Yes, it's still a lost but it is amazing that a conference like the SEC will allow incompetent officials to be involved in a game. It took only 3 minutes on google to find that two of yesterday's officials had been suspended before for sub-standard performance during a Florida game.
https://dawgs.com/forum/georgia-bulldog-football/24699-crew-suspended
The officiating crew from last Saturday's Arkansas-Florida game will be removed from its next scheduled assignment on Oct. 31 and won't be assigned a game until Nov. 14, SEC Commissioner Mike Slive announced today. The suspended officials are referee Marc Curles, umpire Ronnie Jones, linesman Randall Kizer, line judge Michael Shirley, back judge Michael Watson, field judge Greg Thomas and side judge Jesse Dupuy.
“A series of calls that have occurred during the last several weeks have not been to the standard that we expect from our officiating crews” Slive said in a statement. “I believe our officiating program is the best in the country, however, there are times when these actions must be taken”
The SEC acknowledged the crew made a mistake by calling an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against Arkansas last week. That came two weeks after the SEC said the same crew should not have called an excessive celebration penalty on Georgia in a game against LSU on Oct. 3.
From The Birmingham News
https://dawgs.com/forum/georgia-bulldog-football/24699-crew-suspended
The officiating crew from last Saturday's Arkansas-Florida game will be removed from its next scheduled assignment on Oct. 31 and won't be assigned a game until Nov. 14, SEC Commissioner Mike Slive announced today. The suspended officials are referee Marc Curles, umpire Ronnie Jones, linesman Randall Kizer, line judge Michael Shirley, back judge Michael Watson, field judge Greg Thomas and side judge Jesse Dupuy.
“A series of calls that have occurred during the last several weeks have not been to the standard that we expect from our officiating crews” Slive said in a statement. “I believe our officiating program is the best in the country, however, there are times when these actions must be taken”
The SEC acknowledged the crew made a mistake by calling an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against Arkansas last week. That came two weeks after the SEC said the same crew should not have called an excessive celebration penalty on Georgia in a game against LSU on Oct. 3.
From The Birmingham News
Yes. And the so-called ESPN official expert had the audacity to call what everyone knows is a holding call " A good no call." He lost all credibility now. He should not be on ESPN again.
He sounded like a ref that has been bought many times before.
Regardless, they 'spotted' UF 14 points on three non calls, two on the same play. Goes as a loss for us and UF gets a gimme, and is now basically playing for the SEC East title next Saturday vs UGA. If they win that, one hurdle at Missouri remains.
I was at the game and didn’t hear it but I think he must have thought he was still working for the league and not an impartial tv analyst.
Matt was quickly able to analyze Mukuamu's emotional status and satisfaction level:
ESPN rules analyst Matt Austin: "The hand is in a strange place. He does have the jersey but what you look for with a hold is did he take a step away from defender. The defender looks like he’s satisfied to run side by side with runner down field. I’m glad there was no call."
ESPN rules analyst Matt Austin: "The hand is in a strange place. He does have the jersey but what you look for with a hold is did he take a step away from defender. The defender looks like he’s satisfied to run side by side with runner down field. I’m glad there was no call."
The only way he could have been "satisfied" is that he was certain after 30 yards of that nonsense a flag had been thrown and the play was coming back.
What continues to astound me is another SEC Network analyst (not sure of the name) said that it was just the receiver "blocking" and that he agreed with Austin that it was a good no-call. So holding a jersey that is being stretched (indicating force) for 7-8 seconds is allowable, but an incidental face mask that is immediately released or a tug of a receiver's jersey for < one second is not? I'm not buying this for an instant, but unfortunately in the end it won't matter if any of us agree or not.
The holding wouldn’t have happened had the false start been called.
Both the no-calls on this play and the pick play are an effing farce, indefensible, blatant, and hard to pass off as not intentional.
I DARE any of the analysts blowing these things off to tell me with a straight face that ALL THREE would not have been called if the jerseys were switched.
I DARE any of the analysts blowing these things off to tell me with a straight face that ALL THREE would not have been called if the jerseys were switched.
My complaint is not against the refs. It's against our offensive coaches.
If you don`t have a complaint about the refs in that game then you are in denial. I`m even more angry today after watching some of the replays.
I agree it’s a dumb thing to say, but Mukuamu should have sold it better. Had he thrown his hands up or just acted held up more, he’d have gotten the call.
You know when I was watching it live I just assumed there was a flag back at the LOS for the false start so I wasn't sweating the holding. Then we see they called NOTHING.
I feel the same as the poster above; I get more PO'ed with each passing hour.
Simply less heat to lean towards the contenders. I believe they look at it in that regard.
