He has to be impressed with the great job Martin is doing turning this program around. I hope we get this young man. I doubt we are even in contention for Woods without Martin. We have ourselves a basketball coach. That's easy to see.
Latest I've heard is Roy Williams has really been working him hard. Woods once considered a UNC lock is not so much a lock. Woods has great respect for Martin. While I'd still give UNC the edge probably by a good little bit, it's long from over, and Woods has a high interest in USC that he'd not have if not for Martin. These kids like Woods and Dozier have been playing ball for a long time. They know a great coach when they see one. We have ourselves a basketball coach... No doubt that.Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Maybe I'm just overly cynical, but I still don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell of landing him. I fear everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing.
as compared to who? We don't know if that's true or not.
There are a number of quality coaches out there that we could have hired that would have made the local guys a priority that could have given us a chance.
It's not as if Gamecock nation and every recruit in the Columbia area was begging for Frank Martin from Kansas State to be hired before he was hired.
I'm not dogging Frank. I'm saying this logic is strange.
to say they don't even "consider' us without Martin is an unknowable message board argument point.
Originally posted by bosoxcock:
even with the Dozier history, SC never gets Dozier without Martin...Woods never considers SC without Martin
We aren't going to land him.
Some are acting as if him considering us means anything. It doesn't unless he signs here. Coming in 2nd doesn't mean anything in recruiting.
Coming in 2nd on recruits got Brad Scott fired- because back in the 1990s - all Gamecock fans heard was "that Florida kid wouldn't consider us if not for Coach Scott."
Well, they considered us - and signed with other teams. Jeff Chaney ring a bell?
Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Maybe I'm just overly cynical, but I still don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell of landing him. I fear everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing.
That has nothing to do with my response to you above.
Originally posted by bosoxcock:
Martin IS the coach AND because he IS the coach he gets Dozier and has a chance at Woods... I don't deal in who else MIGHT this and that... I deal in realism ... He is the coach and we have Dozier, and its because of realism, not some imaginary coach you dream up that may or may not do the same...
I'm sorry... what?Originally posted by trae172001:
He has to be impressed with the great job Martin is doing turning this program around.
Originally posted by _NOVA_:
I'm sorry... what?Originally posted by trae172001:
He has to be impressed with the great job Martin is doing turning this program around.
Why would Roy Williams have to work hard to sign Woods??? UNC is one of the best basketball programs in the nation and all great players go to UNC over programs like Carolina....Originally posted by trae172001:
Latest I've heard is Roy Williams has really been working him hard. Woods once considered a UNC lock is not so much a lock. Woods has great respect for Martin. While I'd still give UNC the edge probably by a good little bit, it's long from over, and Woods has a high interest in USC that he'd not have if not for Martin. These kids like Woods and Dozier have been playing ball for a long time. They know a great coach when they see one. We have ourselves a basketball coach... No doubt that.Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Maybe I'm just overly cynical, but I still don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell of landing him. I fear everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing.
UNC is in the midst of a academic scandal, which has the NCAA infraction committee delving into their issues. The question is this. Is UNC's academic reputation above reproach from the NCAA. Notre Dame ' skated' on infractions including over a $million dollars$ being funneled to football players by a booster in Chicago...Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Why would Roy Williams have to work hard to sign Woods??? UNC is one of the best basketball programs in the nation and all great players go to UNC over programs like Carolina....Originally posted by trae172001:
Latest I've heard is Roy Williams has really been working him hard. Woods once considered a UNC lock is not so much a lock. Woods has great respect for Martin. While I'd still give UNC the edge probably by a good little bit, it's long from over, and Woods has a high interest in USC that he'd not have if not for Martin. These kids like Woods and Dozier have been playing ball for a long time. They know a great coach when they see one. We have ourselves a basketball coach... No doubt that.Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Maybe I'm just overly cynical, but I still don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell of landing him. I fear everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing.
When is signing day in April?
+1, once the NCAA drops the hammer, UNC will be lucky to get our castoffs.Originally posted by hobcawcreekcock:
UNC is in the midst of a academic scandal, which has the NCAA infraction committee delving into their issues. The question is this. Is UNC's academic reputation above reproach from the NCAA. Notre Dame ' skated' on infractions including over a $million dollars$ being funneled to football players by a booster in Chicago...Originally posted by world famous 3rd base hecklers:
Why would Roy Williams have to work hard to sign Woods??? UNC is one of the best basketball programs in the nation and all great players go to UNC over programs like Carolina....Originally posted by trae172001:
Latest I've heard is Roy Williams has really been working him hard. Woods once considered a UNC lock is not so much a lock. Woods has great respect for Martin. While I'd still give UNC the edge probably by a good little bit, it's long from over, and Woods has a high interest in USC that he'd not have if not for Martin. These kids like Woods and Dozier have been playing ball for a long time. They know a great coach when they see one. We have ourselves a basketball coach... No doubt that.Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Maybe I'm just overly cynical, but I still don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell of landing him. I fear everyone is getting their hopes up for nothing.
When is signing day in April?
Perhaps, Woods is concerned about UNC's on-going issues? Perhaps, he wants to stay closer to home? Perhaps, he sees improvement in our program, and a better 2015 recruiting class coming in (Dozier, Silva, etc.).
Trae,Originally posted by trae172001:
He has to be impressed with the great job Martin is doing turning this program around. I hope we get this young man. I doubt we are even in contention for Woods without Martin. We have ourselves a basketball coach. That's easy to see.
Bit your tongue!Originally posted by Bongsummers:
Trae,Originally posted by trae172001:
He has to be impressed with the great job Martin is doing turning this program around. I hope we get this young man. I doubt we are even in contention for Woods without Martin. We have ourselves a basketball coach. That's easy to see.
If we lose Frank Martin to the Lakers or Miami Heat, maybe we can get Horn back.
Weirdly, he hasn't been snatched up by another school.
I spoke with ONeal several years ago. He did not know I was a gamecock fan. I asked him where he would have gone to school in he didn't go directly to the NBA... He told me Kentucky.Originally posted by section2cock:
I remember seeing Jermaine O'Neil at every game. Next thing you know he's off to the NBA. Eddie could have made a run with that kid.