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Can you name a player who has meant more to a their university the way McCaffrey has to Stanford?
So you don't think Watson has meant that much to Clemson? You take him off that team and Clemson likely loses 3 games. I would say that is a fairly meaningful.Can you name a player who has meant more to a their university the way McCaffrey has to Stanford?
Yeah. The other 2 finalists.
Take away Henry & Alabama likely isn't in the playoff.
Take away Watson....Clem wins 7 games.
So you don't think Watson has meant that much to Clemson? You take him off that team and Clemson likely loses 3 games. I would say that is a fairly meaningful.
McCaffrey is a great player but he is playing on a 2 loss team and he has not scored but something like 15 TDs which is a big reason they lost those 2 games. The other problems are he plays when nobody east of the Mississippi is awake and he is not a QB.
Henry is a great back playing behind the best offensive line in CF who is carrying the ball 30+ a game. Take him off that team what is the impact? They have so much talent I am not sure that it would have much at all. That is why I think Watson has the best argument.
Having said all of that Henry still wins it.
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]I didn't say any of the other players didn't have a meaningful role on their teams. Watson is the best play on Clemsons team. There is absolutely no denying that. But he also has arguably the best single running back production wise, clemson has had in a long time. He also has great receivers, and an over achieving offensive line. Plus that defense man, just having the defense clemson has can give you a winning season. Watson is the glue that puts the team all together, but I feel that Bryant could have success in it as well if you take Watson out of the picture.So you don't think Watson has meant that much to Clemson? You take him off that team and Clemson likely loses 3 games. I would say that is a fairly meaningful.
McCaffrey is a great player but he is playing on a 2 loss team and he has not scored but something like 15 TDs which is a big reason they lost those 2 games. The other problems are he plays when nobody east of the Mississippi is awake and he is not a QB.
Henry is a great back playing behind the best offensive line in CF who is carrying the ball 30+ a game. Take him off that team what is the impact? They have so much talent I am not sure that it would have much at all. That is why I think Watson has the best argument.
Having said all of that Henry still wins it.
Maybe clems loses 2-3 games, but not 5...lol
McCaffrey is a great football player and yards are very good indicator of performance but TDs are the end all be all. Breaking Sanders all purpose yards is indeed nothing short of incredible BUT Sanders scored 37 TDs (McCaffrey scored 16 with one more game) in one less game. That is a pretty big difference in the most important stat category. Henry is pretty much a lock. .[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]I didn't say any of the other players didn't have a meaningful role on their teams. Watson is the best play on Clemsons team. There is absolutely no denying that. But he also has arguably the best single running back production wise, clemson has had in a long time. He also has great receivers, and an over achieving offensive line. Plus that defense man, just having the defense clemson has can give you a winning season. Watson is the glue that puts the team all together, but I feel that Bryant could have success in it as well if you take Watson out of the picture.
Same I think could be said for Bama, I mean lets be honest, if you give me 40+ carries behind Bama's line I think I could get 100 yards rushing. Let's just hope I don't fumble the ball...
But now let's make the case for McCaffrey's worth to his team
Rushing
He has 1847 yards rushing and 8 TDs
Receiving
He lead the team with 540 yards and had 4 TDs
Passing
39 yards passing for 2 TDs
Returning
He averaged 30 yards a return on kickoffs with a 98 yard TD return.
He broke Barry Sanders All Purpose yardage record, which Sanders won the heisman the year he set it. So that's my argument for him. [/COLOR]
He's on the number 1 team that's an underdog to the number 4 team. Go figure that.Watson is going to win it. Some of these old voters won't get past the fact that he is QB of the number 1 ranked team.
He's on the number 1 team that's an underdog to the number 4 team. Go figure that.
I agree I think Henry will win it, heck look whose record he just broke. He still is averaging 6 yards a carry with all those carries.McCaffrey is a great football player and yards are very good indicator of performance but TDs are the end all be all. Breaking Sanders all purpose yards is indeed nothing short of incredible BUT Sanders scored 37 TDs (McCaffrey scored 16 with one more game) in one less game. That is a pretty big difference in the most important stat category. Henry is pretty much a lock. .
i think henry gets it with watson a close second
2700 of Barry Sander's yards were rushing yards. I think it's kind of crap to compare his amazing season with McCaffrey when 1100 of McCaffrey's come from return yards. just imho[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]I didn't say any of the other players didn't have a meaningful role on their teams. Watson is the best play on Clemsons team. There is absolutely no denying that. But he also has arguably the best single running back production wise, clemson has had in a long time. He also has great receivers, and an over achieving offensive line. Plus that defense man, just having the defense clemson has can give you a winning season. Watson is the glue that puts the team all together, but I feel that Bryant could have success in it as well if you take Watson out of the picture.
Same I think could be said for Bama, I mean lets be honest, if you give me 40+ carries behind Bama's line I think I could get 100 yards rushing. Let's just hope I don't fumble the ball...
But now let's make the case for McCaffrey's worth to his team
Rushing
He has 1847 yards rushing and 8 TDs
Receiving
He lead the team with 540 yards and had 4 TDs
Passing
39 yards passing for 2 TDs
Returning
He averaged 30 yards a return on kickoffs with a 98 yard TD return.
He broke Barry Sanders All Purpose yardage record, which Sanders won the heisman the year he set it. So that's my argument for him. [/COLOR]
2700 of Barry Sander's yards were rushing yards. I think it's kind of crap to compare his amazing season with McCaffrey when 1100 of McCaffrey's come from return yards. just imho
Return and receiving good sir! Haha I agree though 2700 yards is more impressive2700 of Barry Sander's yards were rushing yards. I think it's kind of crap to compare his amazing season with McCaffrey when 1100 of McCaffrey's come from return yards. just imho
McCaf in his last game runs,throws,and catches a TD. Hmmmmm what more can an offensive player do? Football gods please please send us a player like him!!!!!
You can say the same thing for McCaffery. The other two split the SE which leaves him on top. It's an election.Yeah. The other 2 finalists.
Take away Henry & Alabama likely isn't in the playoff.
Take away Watson....Clem wins 7 games.
They would have lost at least 6 w/o Watson: SC, NC, NCSt, ND, FLSt, Lvl.Maybe clems loses 2-3 games, but not 5...lol