Actually the majority of the politics comes from the side advocating gun control. Feinstein is a great example, leading the charge on banning ARs and she is clueless about that gun.
I would like to have a intelligent discussion about the horrible shooting that occurred today in Boulder, Co. No politics allowed.
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I have trust issues.
Because our Government constantly lies to us and abuses the power granted by consent of the people.
Sure but that would be a simple thing to work around but like I said there will always be an excuse why logical solutions shouldn’t be implemented because the money is in proliferation.
And that is in large part because those advocates are thinking two steps ahead. They arent willing to give an inch because they know it will be turned into a mile in short order.
Except people don’t know they are on the watch list. There is no mechanism in place to adjudicate it in court. It’s like the no fly list that until you are denied a flight you have no idea you’re on a list.
This horse has been dead a while. Can we bury it? No one is going to change their mind on this issue due to a message board.
I keep reading on here that SLED has a registry. I wish someone would clarify this. From my experience when you buy a firearm from a dealer, the dealer calls into SLED for the background check. I have personally witnessed this and at no time does the dealer inform SLED of the specific weapon you are buying. All SLED knows is who you are, and whether you are looking to buy a pistol or rifle, and that is all. They don't even know if you actually purchased the gun.
The dealer keeps the forms you filled out until he goes out of business, and then those forms are sent into ATF and they are not allowed to use those forms as a data base, they are stored in their original condition.
All SLED is supposed to know is you were applying to purchase a gun, not that you did, and certainly not the specific weapon you purchased.
If SLED came to your buddy, the path I thought they would have to take (if no one told them they got the gun from him) is to go to the manufacturer, they give the distributor, who gives them the dealer the gun was sent to. That dealer then goes through the records he is supposed to keep to find out who originally purchased the gun.
If I am mistaken, I would appreciate someone letting me know the exact process. I do not trust the government now or for what they may do in the future, and agreeing to a database now (protected by court order) is just a single bill in Congress from making those records an open guide map for how ever they want to use it.
Or they could be protecting their pockets. Could be a combo of both. Let's not rule out anything since we aren't sure.
From Google; Whether you buy or sell a gun in the State of South Carolina, there will only be a record created if you do so through an FFL. ... There are no requirements under the law to report the sale to any governmental agency. This remains true as long as the gun is legal to own and the buyer can legally own the weapon.Apr 14, 2020
Oh hell yes.
I will gladly be the first. It is none of your or their business.
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FISA Courts.
IRS vs TEA parties.
New Orleans gun confiscation following Katrina.
Enough?
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Doesn’t change that it’s fun to pin you guys into intellectually deficient boxes where you don’t have a legitimate response.
You are correct that this is what actually occurs and is why we need an actual registry database.
Why? What do you think the government is going to do with that information?
They’ll use it for confiscation as soon as they think it will get them votes. Are you really this naive?
Bye Felicia...good for you if think that’s what you are doing. You’re in the running for SPOTY, not me 🤪
Are you saying you wouldn’t turn over your guns if the government banned them?
So you’re not actually a law abiding gun owner. Makes sense based on your responses in this thread.
Who is we?
So, there it is.....inside every liberal is an authoritarian seeking to get out !
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Watson, I know you won’t understand what I am about to say, but I am compelled to say it. You have yet to say anything new about this issue. as a matter of fact, one party in the US has used these and other points many times. That being said, you have yet to say anything I am in agreement with. Many understand that the government doesn’t respect our God given liberties now and we have guns. we know How bad it would be without guns. See: Mao, Stalin, Pol pot, Hitler and 20 others.
I am done with this. I need to go clean my .223.
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He's probably referring to his fellow traitors.
Dude, you’re so full of crap that you’re burping up farts. Give it a rest.
When I worked for a local Firearms company we had an employee who would purchase multiple firearms every year. He did this because we could purchase at cost minus 10%. Since he had purchased so many over the years BATF had a visit with him to find out what was going on. When they found out what the deal was there was no issue. However, since they made a visit our company put a limit on and how many we could purchase.
Buy a Browning at 10% below cost was sweet.
Buy a Browning at 10% below cost was sweet.
I heard a stat this morning that the US has 4% of the world's population and owns 40% of the world's guns.
Mind boggling and unnecessary.
Mind boggling and unnecessary.
Give it a rest...even your pro gun control buddies have abandoned you
Unnecessary in who’s eyes, yours? It’s part of our culture and our right as Americans. Why do you feel that is unnecessary when the fact is the largest percentage of those are owned by good, honest, law abiding citizens.
Take into account those communist authoritarian countries that don’t allow their citizens to have them.
Would someone refresh my memory on what happened with the Dylan Roof fiasco as to how he got a gun? Was the background check not handled properly and efficiently by the FBI? This issue may have been addressed in another post but I haven't read them all.
I just remember there was something unsatisfactory relative to the way the FBI handled the background check.
I just remember there was something unsatisfactory relative to the way the FBI handled the background check.
Defend the rest of them. And, I have many others. Your response is weak.
History has shown that the first thing dictators/communists/socialists/authoritarians do is remove the guns from
a society so people can not defend themselves. And you as well as I know that is the plan. You think Hitlers was a great guy? He didn’t kill that many folks compared to Mao or Stalin. Between them you can pick a number between 150,000,000 to 250,000,000 people murdered depending on who is writing the bio.
i think you would fit in with the present Chinese regime. They love gun control.
He was willing to break the law by murdering people.
You honestly think registering/not registering, insuring/not insuring would’ve made a difference?
You’re not making sense.
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