Provided the strength of a league dictates that.That is not what I said. There was confusion.
When picking between a group of one loss teams, I said I'd START with the p5 Champs.
Provided the strength of a league dictates that.That is not what I said. There was confusion.
When picking between a group of one loss teams, I said I'd START with the p5 Champs.
Bullshit that just leaves bias and to much of an advantage to have multiple teams from the same conference when it is only 4 spots. I totally disagree here.That's also errant because all conferences aren't the same in any given year. Some are depressed and some are loaded. There need to be analytical metrics and their needs to be a committee to assess them. The whole season matters. Playoff expansion to 12 teams does nothing more than to wrongly deemphasize the season.
My thought process for assigning conference champs a spot is because it makes the championships mean even more than they do now. If you leave them out then conferences in general become meaningless. Maybe add a rule that to get in you have to have 1 loss or less and conference champs with more than one loss can be replaced by an at large team. That would put a major importance on the regular season.That's possible. I only caught the tail end. All I know is that automatically assigning conference champions to the playoffs is an errant approach and should not be part of playoff expansion - and is the opposite idea is the reason I oppose expansion.
LOL< i guess they will make any argument they can to KEEP UGA out. I hate UGA as much as the next guy, but IMO they are one of the 3 best teams in teh country. The went undefeated in a regular SEC schedule. That impresses me more than Pitt winning the ACC and UTAH winning the Pac12, even more than Cincy beating up on the Atlantic American conference.. But hey, that is just my (and the BCS) opinion!Provided the strength of a league dictates that.
Maybe just letting a group of knowledgeable people using pertinent data to select the best teams to fill out a playoff field is even better. I think it has worked exceedingly well because it has taken into account all factors.My thought process for assigning conference champs a spot is because it makes the championships mean even more than they do now. If you leave them out then conferences in general become meaningless. Maybe add a rule that to get in you have to have 1 loss or less and conference champs with more than one loss can be replaced by an at large team. That would put a major importance on the regular season.
If you are going to emphasize conference champions, then ND should have absolutely no consideration. They don’t play in a conference and therefore can’t earn a conference championship.Yes ND and cincy played in the REGULAR season. What part of a team shouldn’t be able to lose in their championship game do you not understand. You have yet to answer my question about it this situation happened with any other conference would they be in?
I won’t argue to much with that. I think you will see them join the acc when the contract with nbc runs out. Had they played in the acc championship they would have stood a chance in jumping GA. Especially if they had played a conference schedule in the acc.If you are going to emphasize conference champions, then ND should have absolutely no consideration. They don’t play in a conference and therefore can’t earn a conference championship.
Maybe just letting a group of knowledgeable people using pertinent data to select the best teams to fill out a playoff field is even better. I think it has worked exceedingly well because it has taken into account all factors.
Look, I like the current system much better than the previous one because at least now some teams get to decide it on the field and for the most part I think they get the rankings right. I do think there is some bias for certain teams that causes problems( yes I think Clemson has been helped by that bias some in recent history). Had any team not named Bama struggled down the stretch like Bama did no way they stay in the top 3. Ok St loses to a top 10 team on a goal line stand and falls 5 spots but UGA loses by 17 and only drops 2 spots? Michigan blows Iowa off the field and gets jumped? I just think the conference champs plus at larges takes at least a bit more of the bias out.Maybe just letting a group of knowledgeable people using pertinent data to select the best teams to fill out a playoff field is even better. I think it has worked exceedingly well because it has taken into account all factors.
That's an extraneous consideration.But that falls prey to "eye test" and "they're just better" type of judgements.
Dawn said earlier that it's just arguing to keep uga out, but uga is just this year's example. Imho, in a 4 team race, we don't need to put two teams in that literally just played each other.
That's an extraneous consideration.
Read that if ND does join a conference it would have to be the ACC until some later date-don't remember what date was.Folks should not schedule them until they join a conference. Let them ply service academies and 4 ACC teams
I'll watch the game, and if wrong, I'll stand corrected. BTW, Michigan didn't "dominate" 4 of the last 5 games they played this year. They beat Rutgers X 7, Nebraska X 3, lost to Mich. St, and beat Penn St. X 4 (then dominated Ohio St). I don't think Michigan has played a defense like Georgia's. I predict a low scoring game....13-7 Ga.If anyone can remove their SEC bias they would be able to appreciate how good Michigan really is. , Michigan has been able to impose their will of the power running game on some serious defenses (Iowa & OSU). Bama neutralized the UGA defense by using their running game, so expect Michigan to do the same. The Michigan defense is just as good as anyone out there.
Will not surprise me if Michigan not only wins the NC, but dominates the games they will play.
HOW DARE YOU DEFEND GEORGIA!!! LOL< these are my sentiments ExactlyI'll watch the game, and if wrong, I'll stand corrected. BTW, Michigan didn't "dominate" 4 of the last 5 games they played this year. They beat Rutgers X 7, Nebraska X 3, lost to Mich. St, and beat Penn St. X 4 (then dominated Ohio St). I don't think Michigan has played a defense like Georgia's. I predict a low scoring game....13-7 Ga.
Everyone said the same thing about Alabama and we see how that turned out.HOW DARE YOU DEFEND GEORGIA!!! LOL< these are my sentiments Exactly
Everyone is cyclic. That includes Alabama. They will struggle when Nick saban is gone for a while.ND was foolish, IMO, to attach themselves to a loser, for the most part, conference. Their recruiting and exciting games would soar if they let bygones be bygones and joined the B10.
IF they join the ACC which seems likely, I hope they flop and go the way of FSU which had they joined the SEC might be a Bama like power.
How much richer does Nick wanna be? He's getting long in the tooth for that HFBC grind.Everyone is cyclic. That includes Alabama. They will struggle when Nick saban is gone for a while.
Notre Dame will always be a cut above in terms of prestige and enjoy certain recognition advantages that would prevent them from falling flat - AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE RIGHT COACH. You are correct on your first point, though. They should be a Big 10 school.ND was foolish, IMO, to attach themselves to a loser, for the most part, conference. Their recruiting and exciting games would soar if they let bygones be bygones and joined the B10.
IF they join the ACC which seems likely, I hope they flop and go the way of FSU which had they joined the SEC might be a Bama like power.