With this type of elite recruiting, we'll be every bit as good as Vanderbilt in just a few years!
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Serious Q. If you're Shawn Elliott and you're fighting to become HC, why would you do this? Flipping a 2-star from Troy just doesn't have good optics and there's absolutely nothing he (or anyone) can do or say that will change the perception. There's no upside. There's only a downside.With this type of elite recruiting, we'll be every bit as good as Vanderbilt in just a few years!
It makes absolutely no sense.Serious Q. If you're Shawn Elliott and you're fighting to become HC, why would you do this? Flipping a 2-star from Troy just doesn't have good optics and there's absolutely nothing he (or anyone) can do or say that will change the perception. There's no upside. There's only a downside.
They can't help themselves. They still believe their evaluations are the end all, be all and these 2 star guys are best
Ridiculous
Duke also has more 4-star commitments than we do. Hmmm.Well we have more 2-star recruits than Duke and Vandy combined...and are tied with Wake Forest. Interesting.
Headed?This is egregious. I can coach better and evaluate talent better than Coach Elliott. I'm also much more talented than all those 2 star punks. What is Ray thinking? He's letting these no talent jokers ruin our proud program. The current staff should sit on their hands until the end of the season, or until the put me in charge.
I've played at the highest level, in fantasy football. Anyone with half a brain can see we're headed for disaster.
We must insist on superior coaching and players or we'll never amount to anything as a football program. Don't interview any coach unless they are named Saban, Bob Stoops or Jim Harbaugh. By no means should we recruit any player unless I declare them worthy, or they have 5 stars.
True fans know what is required, don't settle for less!
Probably the first time everDuke also has more 4-star commitments than we do. Hmmm.
If he does then we need to hold a lot of people accountable.Elliott won't get the job with this kind of recruiting. chit
They need to ask Dawn Staley why doesn't she go after 2 stars
We need to hire a coach immediately at end of regular season before the bowls to help recruiting
Duke also has more 4-star commitments than we do. Hmmm.
LOL Looks as if we have caught them, "vandy"With this type of elite recruiting, we'll be every bit as good as Vanderbilt in just a few years!
Have you watched the kid play? He is a stud and the ultimate sleeper guy. I read on a Troy board where they were pissed. He is a great value. Stop judging kids by stars. Conor shaw souls familiar? Or maybe JJ watt?Serious Q. If you're Shawn Elliott and you're fighting to become HC, why would you do this? Flipping a 2-star from Troy just doesn't have good optics and there's absolutely nothing he (or anyone) can do or say that will change the perception. There's no upside. There's only a downside.
Stop judging kids by stars. Conor shaw souls familiar? Or maybe JJ watt?
Have you watched the kid play? He is a stud and the ultimate sleeper guy. I read on a Troy board where they were pissed. He is a great value. Stop judging kids by stars. Conor shaw souls familiar? Or maybe JJ watt?
We need some elite talent guys and some guys that are hungry. The key to no having a drop off is having guys redshirt that don't play for the first couple years. I think that's why the taters are doing okay now. Mix of 5 stars and guys that have been in the system.I still can't figure you out if you are trolling or actually think what you are saying is the truth. Shaw was a three star and 19th QB prospect. But regarding this kid... do you hear yourself???? TROY is pissed? We are judging good flips from TROY?
You could be right- this could be a sleeper... But I guess so are the other four 2* we have committed right now huh?
We need some elite talent guys and some guys that are hungry. The key to no having a drop off is having guys redshirt that don't play for the first couple years. I think that's why the taters are doing okay now. Mix of 5 stars and guys that have been in the system.
I thought that one guy was like a sixth year guy a wr, and that short white receiver has been there forever.Elite talent is not equal to 2* talent.
Clemson: 7 out of 11 starters on offense are soph/fresh. 8 are on the two deep.
2 starters on D. 9 more on two deep.
This isn't guys that have been in the system for long. IT IS SIMPLY RECRUITING BETTER PLAYERS THAT CAN COME IN AND CONTRIBUTE!
Not sure what you call a sleeper, but he doesn't come from a program or area that doesn't get a lot of attention from schools...thus many of P5 coaches have seen him and chose not to offer....not a single one. If it's a grade issue...same issue we have been dealing with for the past few years....our RC doesn't do his job.We need some elite talent guys and some guys that are hungry. The key to no having a drop off is having guys redshirt that don't play for the first couple years. I think that's why the taters are doing okay now. Mix of 5 stars and guys that have been in the system.
I thought that one guy was like a sixth year guy a wr, and that short white receiver has been there forever.
How is that kid only a freshmen. I feel like I've seen him for a couple years now. I think he's a redshirt seniorCharone Peake is who you are referring to- hasn't done to much at Clemson due to injuries was good at Dorman High School. The "short white receiver" is a friend of mines nephew- Hunter Renfrow who is a freshman walk-on. who was much like Adam Humphries(was a teammates with Charone from Dorman).
You guys are really getting worked up over stuff without understanding the facts. If you did, you would know that most of the 2* guys we have on the list are Offensive Linemen. There is no separate ranking system for OLinemen. They are compared to all the other "glamour positions" so they are inherently ranked lower. You would also know that there are only TWO (2) 5* Olinemen in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. Nobody is signing 5* OLinemen because there "AIN'T" ANY. You would also know that there are only 15 4* Olinemen in our entire recruiting area. That means almost ALL the Olinemen we can and will sign will be ranked 3* and 2* by the Grand Imperial Wizards of the internet media ranking world.
How is that kid only a freshmen. I feel like I've seen him for a couple years now. I think he's a redshirt senior
I didn't realize that they were two different guys. That's more proof that you need a couple underrated guys.Adam Humphries is who you are thinking of, and is playing for Tampa Bay.
I LOVE THE BOLD WORDING.... (Just busting your chops) BUT UNDERSTOOD THAT WE ARE ALSO TAKING A 2* 5'10'' 160 "ATHLETE WHO HAS OFFERS FROM AIR FORCE, SCST., FURMAN, COASTAL CAROLINA..... THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR RECRUITING AND HAS BEEN. NO MAJOR D1 OFFERS BUT HEY, WE CAN COACH THEM ALL UP RIGHT!!! SOUND FAMILIAR? I AM WELL AWARE OF THE OL NOT HAVING MANY 4*/5* BUT WE ARE TAKING GUYS THAT DO NOT GET OFFERS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER POWER 5 SCHOOLS? I ASSUME THE OTHER SCHOOLS CAN'T SEE THE DIAMONDS IN ROUGH?
I am not knocking the kids- heck if I was graded/rated what they are and a division 1 school offered me... I would jump on it in a heartbeat. But we are also in a place in rebuilding where we can't take the chances that the current staff are taking on recruits... they have been lazy for the past three and four years and it has finally caught up to us.