LSU fans pissed at Dawn and her comments

[Forever Fowl]

Most would agree that the WNBA is a business and as such is composed of the most talented players in our country.

83% of WNBA players are women of color. That's about the same racial composition as our team.

Is anyone dumb enough to complain that the WNBA is not signing enough white players?

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Most would agree that the WNBA is a business and as such is composed of the most talented players in our country.

83% of WNBA players are women of color. That's about the same racial composition as our team.

Is anyone dumb enough to complain that the WNBA is not signing enough white players?

Sounds like systemic racism. At least, that is the excuse when the situation is reversed, like when the number of black NFL QBs was questioned.

 

[winloseortie]

Sounds like systemic racism. At least, that is the excuse when the situation is reversed, like when the number of black NFL QBs was questioned.

The good old boy line/excuse was “Blacks just aren’t smart enough to play QB.” Are you saying white girls aren’t smart enough to play basketball?🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[DeeDave]

Sounds like systemic racism. At least, that is the excuse when the situation is reversed, like when the number of black NFL QBs was questioned.

Uh, it's not like that at all. 😄😊

 

[atl-cock]

Haha....I know, but I've got news for you...we won the Revolutionary War! Part of the spoils is not utilizing a superfluous "u."

War of Independence.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

The good old boy line/excuse was “Blacks just aren’t smart enough to play QB.” Are you saying white girls aren’t smart enough to play basketball?🤣🤣🤣🤣

Obviously not, since the greatest college women's basketball player of all time is white.

And I don't buy that excuse at all for QBs. The same "good ole boys" were willing to let every single DB in the NFL be black, and nobody said anything. If there was a black QB that would win for them, they would have played them.

You can't have it both ways.

 

[TN-Gamecock]

The good old boy line/excuse was “Blacks just aren’t smart enough to play QB.” Are you saying white girls aren’t smart enough to play basketball?🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ask Stanford Women's basketball coach if white girls are not smart enough to play basketball...

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Uh, it's not like that at all. 😄😊

It's exactly like that.

When minorities are overrepresented, nobody questions it. "That's just the way it worked out" is an acceptable answer. When minorities are underrepresented, that is absolutely not an acceptable answer.

Race shouldn't even be in the discussion. The cream always rises to the top. But that's not the world we live in.

 

[thebittertruth]

War of Independence.

War of British Aggression

 

[winloseortie]

Ask Stanford Women's basketball coach if white girls are not smart enough to play basketball...

No need, the whole point of the post was to point out the stupidity of the post I responded to faulty logic. Thank you for proving my point

 

[winloseortie]

Obviously not, since the greatest college women's basketball player of all time is white.

And I don't buy that excuse at all for QBs. The same "good ole boys" were willing to let every single DB in the NFL be black, and nobody said anything. If there was a black QB that would win for them, they would have played them.

You can't have it both ways.

Your logic in your original post was faulty asinine and race baiting.

 

[atl-cock]

War of British Aggression

War of British cluelessness.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Your logic in your original post was faulty asinine and race baiting.

No, it's not. At one point, every single DB is the NFL was black. 140+, and every single one was black.

Nobody said a word or challenged why that was the case. If every single one of anything else in the world was white, it's would absolutely be questioned and would be considered a systemic issue.

If you can't admit that, then you just aren't being honest with yourself.

 

[atl-cock]

No, it's not. At one point, every single DB is the NFL was black. 140+, and every single one was black.

Nobody said a word or challenged why that was the case. If every single one of anything else in the world was white, it's would absolutely be questioned and would be considered a systemic issue.

If you can't admit that, then you just aren't being honest with yourself.

Unfortunately, I think this true, but it depends on the sport. Historically, blacks in the NHL were subjected to racism. Notwithstanding the racism, I don't hear anything about the paucity of blacks in the NHL.

This reminds me of when I was a student at USC in the late 1970s. A fellow student with whom I was friendly who was from northwest Minnesota (Ada, MN maybe a 45 minute drive NE from Fargo, ND) once showed me a copy of his hometown paper. Looking at the sports section and photos from a local high school basketball contest, I saw no black faces at all, which surprised me momentarily until I realized that there are hardly any black people living in that part of the country.

 

[DeeDave]

It's exactly like that.

When minorities are overrepresented, nobody questions it. "That's just the way it worked out" is an acceptable answer. When minorities are underrepresented, that is absolutely not an acceptable answer.

Race shouldn't even be in the discussion. The cream always rises to the top. But that's not the world we live in.

We have evidence that black quarterbacks weren't given chances that they deserved.

Black players that had been quarterbacks in high school and college were all of a sudden moved to defensive back positions or wide outs- positions that some had never played (and didn't want to play).

That's what happened to the first black QB in the modern area- Marlin Briscoe. When he got to Denver, they took the college QB Brisco and tried to move him to DB. He refused to sign unless they gave him a chance to play QB in their 3 day try-out for QB.

Seven other quarterbacks, all of them white, got to make 10 throws during drills. Briscoe always went last, and got “maybe seven or eight”.

At the end of camp, Denver named Briscoe a starter – at cornerback. But after starting quarterback Steve Tensi was injured and backup Joe DiVito struggled during the Broncos’ home opener, coach Lou Saban put Briscoe in under center.

Briscoe completed his first pass for 22 yards. He later drove Denver 80 yards, scored on a 12-yard run, and nearly led the Broncos to a comeback win. A week later, he became the first black starting quarterback in pro football’s modern era – and ultimately finished the season as the runner-up for AFL rookie of the year, compiling five starts, 1,589 passing yards, 308 rushing yards and 14 touchdown passes.

The following summer, Briscoe went back to Omaha to take college courses. His phone rang. “Denver was having quarterback meetings,” he said. “Here I am, the starting QB at the end of the season, and I didn’t even get an invitation to the competition.”

Briscoe flew to Denver. He discovered his services under center were no longer needed. “I never did get an explanation,” he said. “But I understood what was going on.”

 

[DeeDave]

At one point, every single DB is the NFL was black. 140+, and every single one was black.

Nobody said a word or challenged why that was the case. If every single one of anything else in the world was white, it's would absolutely be questioned and would be considered a systemic issue.

If you can't admit that, then you just aren't being honest with yourself.

If you can point out the white executives in the NFL that are discriminating against white defensive backs and not giving them an honest and fair chance to play defensive back in the NFL, I think everyone here is all ears.

Can you provide that evidence or those stories so we can read them and judge for ourselves?

 

[Cybercock]

No, it's not. At one point, every single DB is the NFL was black. 140+, and every single one was black.

Nobody said a word or challenged why that was the case. If every single one of anything else in the world was white, it's would absolutely be questioned and would be considered a systemic issue.

If you can't admit that, then you just aren't being honest with yourself.

Save your bandwidth. Youll never get thru to these virtue signalers. Their circular logic is baffling. Its going to have to bite them in the ass before the light bulb goes off..... if ever.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

We have evidence that black quarterbacks weren't given chances that they deserved.

Black players that had been quarterbacks in high school and college were all of a sudden moved to defensive back positions or wide outs- positions that some had never played (and didn't want to play).

That's what happened to the first black QB in the modern area- Marlin Briscoe. When he got to Denver, they took the college QB Brisco and tried to move him to DB. He refused to sign unless they gave him a chance to play QB in their 3 day try-out for QB.

Seven other quarterbacks, all of them white, got to make 10 throws during drills. Briscoe always went last, and got “maybe seven or eight”.

At the end of camp, Denver named Briscoe a starter – at cornerback. But after starting quarterback Steve Tensi was injured and backup Joe DiVito struggled during the Broncos’ home opener, coach Lou Saban put Briscoe in under center.

Briscoe completed his first pass for 22 yards. He later drove Denver 80 yards, scored on a 12-yard run, and nearly led the Broncos to a comeback win. A week later, he became the first black starting quarterback in pro football’s modern era – and ultimately finished the season as the runner-up for AFL rookie of the year, compiling five starts, 1,589 passing yards, 308 rushing yards and 14 touchdown passes.

The following summer, Briscoe went back to Omaha to take college courses. His phone rang. “Denver was having quarterback meetings,” he said. “Here I am, the starting QB at the end of the season, and I didn’t even get an invitation to the competition.”

Briscoe flew to Denver. He discovered his services under center were no longer needed. “I never did get an explanation,” he said. “But I understood what was going on.”

Jesus. That's was almost 55 years ago, and absolutely had NOTHING to do with recent discussions. I don't believe for a second that an NFL team wouldn't put someone that was pink with purple polka dots in the starting role if it would mean winning a Super Bowl.

 

[DeeDave]

Jesus. That's was almost 55 years ago, and absolutely had NOTHING to do with recent discussions. I don't believe for a second that an NFL team wouldn't put someone that was pink with purple polka dots in the starting role if it would mean winning a Super Bowl.

I didn't say it was the current stance. I said that history is there.


I'll await your evidence of discrimination against white defensive backs.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

I didn't say it was the current stance. I said that history is there.


I'll await your evidence of discrimination against white defensive backs.

History is history. Long gone and not an issue today. 1968 isn't the reality of today.

As for white defensive backs, that's my point. If the races were reversed, it would be considered a systemic issue just based on the "look". No evidence needed. The excuse would be that the stereotypes have eliminated opportunity going back to because, surely, there is no way a complete lack of diversity isn't racist.

Away, done with the topic. We'll just have to disagree.

 

[Neanderthal]

Too any black kids are conditioned to seek recognition based on physical instead of intellectual attributes. We have to stop thinking about power as being able to dunk on somebody or lay somebody out on the football field. Real power is defined by the capacity to think and excel in various situations. Compared with physical abilities, intelligence places you in a better position for a longer period of time. Far more money is made sitting down than standing up.

 

[DeeDave]

History is history. Long gone and not an issue today. 1968 isn't the reality of today.

As for white defensive backs, that's my point. If the races were reversed, it would be considered a systemic issue just based on the "look". No evidence needed. The excuse would be that the stereotypes have eliminated opportunity going back to because, surely, there is no way a complete lack of diversity isn't racist.

Away, done with the topic. We'll just have to disagree.

That's ludicrously ridiculous.

But, if you can provide evidence that white NFL executives have discriminated against white defensive backs, the board is still open for that evidence.

 

[DeeDave]

Too any black kids are conditioned to seek recognition based on physical instead of intellectual attributes.

Well, I am sure that happens in some situations. But I don't sense that most black kids think that anymore than most white kids think that.

When my oldest played little league baseball, I think I was the only parent out there that didn't think their child was going to go play upper level college ball or get drafted one day. But I realized that wasn't the entire world.

 

[uscedge21]

Ask Stanford Women's basketball coach if white girls are not smart enough to play basketball...

Texas A&M's Blair, one of the winningest women's basketball coaches ever, does not have a single white player on his team.......so there's that. I am sure there are more teams with a similar racial makeup. Players will play wherever they feel most comfortable. Why can't we just leave it at that?

 

[Cybercock]

That's ludicrously ridiculous.

But, if you can provide evidence that white NFL executives have discriminated against white defensive backs, the board is still open for that evidence.

Whats ridiculous about it?

 

[uscnoklahoma2]

Jesus. That's was almost 55 years ago, and absolutely had NOTHING to do with recent discussions. I don't believe for a second that an NFL team wouldn't put someone that was pink with purple polka dots in the starting role if it would mean winning a Super Bowl.

Well, to be honest Warren Moon kind of got the shaft for years so.....

 

[atl-cock]

Too any black kids are conditioned to seek recognition based on physical instead of intellectual attributes. We have to stop thinking about power as being able to dunk on somebody or lay somebody out on the football field. Real power is defined by the capacity to think and excel in various situations. Compared with physical abilities, intelligence places you in a better position for a longer period of time. Far more money is made sitting down than standing up.

It was wonderful that Bill Cosby spoke about and encouraged such behaviour. It's too bad that he didn't live his life in such a manner (what an understatement).

To be clear, I am caucasian (as if anybody doubted it). When the news about Cosby came out, a black work colleague opined about how it set everyone back. Like him, I too was disgusted.

 

[atl-cock]

Texas A&M's Blair, one of the winningest women's basketball coaches ever, does not have a single white player on his team.......so there's that. I am sure there are more teams with a similar racial makeup. Players will play wherever they feel most comfortable. Why can't we just leave it at that?

Thank you for simply summarizing the whole issue. 👍

 

[Neanderthal]

In 4 decades of coaching, I had 3 teams which had one white player. They all made it on their merits, their skills, their abilities as a team player. Always tried to pick the best team, which wasn’t always the best 12-14 players. Same is true with teams I had of 9 white guys. The color didn’t matter. If it does, that’ll get you beat.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

That's ludicrously ridiculous.

But, if you can provide evidence that white NFL executives have discriminated against white defensive backs, the board is still open for that evidence.

Again, I never said NFL executives are discriminating against white defensive backs, just like I don't think they are discriminating against black quarterbacks. But only one unicolor position was ever questioned. THAT was the point.

 

[DeeDave]

Again, I never said NFL executives are discriminating against white defensive backs, just like I don't think they are discriminating against black quarterbacks. But only one unicolor position was ever questioned. THAT was the point.

it was questioned because the NFL has, in it's history, discriminated against black QBs.

There is no history that we have of them doing that with defensive backs.

 

[DeeDave]

Texas A&M's Blair, one of the winningest women's basketball coaches ever, does not have a single white player on his team.......so there's that. I am sure there are more teams with a similar racial makeup. Players will play wherever they feel most comfortable. Why can't we just leave it at that?

but, uh, uh, but.....

hmmm......

 

[Jon Snow]

War of British cluelessness.

Careful! The Brits might see the chaotic divide in American society and decide that now is the time to retake their former colony. "I for one welcome our new insect overlords!"

 

[thebittertruth]

Careful! The Brits might see the chaotic divide in American society and decide that now is the time to retake their former colony. "I for one welcome our new insect overlords!"

 

[atl-cock]

In 4 decades of coaching, I had 3 teams which had one white player. They all made it on their merits, their skills, their abilities as a team player. Always tried to pick the best team, which wasn’t always the best 12-14 players. Same is true with teams I had of 9 white guys. The color didn’t matter. If it does, that’ll get you beat.

Team chemistry cannot be understated.

 

[atl-cock]

Careful! The Brits might see the chaotic divide in American society and decide that now is the time to retake their former colony. "I for one welcome our new insect overlords!"

Ha ha! 😁

 

[Neanderthal]

Team chemistry cannot be understated.

Yes. (1) Team chemistry (play team ball, stay within the bounds of strategy/system, have good camaraderie), and, (2) are you dependable (will you always be at practice and be early and be ready?), (3) will you work hard?, (4) are you coachable?, (5) can you play with poise and calmness in the midst of all that will happen?

These are the factors that put less-talented kids ahead of those with more ability.

 

[DarkCock]

Anything is possible

but the atmosphere she has created just happens to be the home of the #1 team in the country -

and without definitive proof that she's doing something as nutty as avoiding recruiting white girls, I'm going to do the only decent thing that any decent human being would do for a coach at their school and support her, cheer her, and enthusiastically proclaim her greatness.

Meanwhile, on the Mizzou board.......

🤣

 

[Gamekem]

Meanwhile, on the Mizzou board.......

🤣

At least they have a reason to complain. We get complaints despite being #1 team all seasons. At this point if Missouri makes the tournament it's going to be solely off our loss.

 

[DarkCock]

At least they have a reason to complain. We get complaints despite being #1 team all seasons. At this point if Missouri makes the tournament it's going to be solely off our loss.

Yep, the Mizzou/Georgia game is going to be a battle between two desperate teams.