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Fans have the wrong mindset about these lower tiered bowls. They aren’t so much a culmination of the current season, but rather a glorified exhibition in preparation for the season to come. And other than the playoff, and a few select other bowls, they are all just lower tiered bowls.It says a lot a man's character when he opt out a bowl game and leave his teammates stranded... Til this day, I say that 28-0 loss to UVA did more to hurt us in preparing for the bowl game and just let your teammates down before the game was played...
The same injury risk exists for a National Championship Bowl as for a lower tier Boal. It just tells me a player is fearful of injury. If I’m a pro scout that tells me something about how the player will play as a pro.I see both sides of the argument. If I’m a sure fired NFL draft pick, and my family doesn’t have much, I might opt out as well. Insurance policies are available, but can some of these poorer kids afford one.
CFP games are one thing, the Cheezit or Mayo Bowl are another. A chance to win a NC is enough incentive to play, mid to low tier bowls? Perhaps not???
Of course, the other side of the argument of opting out is it let’s down your teammates, coaches, fans, etc. Do you finish what you started????
Name the last superstar that got hurt in a bowl game and was never heard from again. Marcus wasn’t hurt in a bowl game.I'll say this. Some of you have never grew up in poverty and it really shows. Going to the NFL is basically like hitting the lottery, and they don't want to mess up the opportunity for that check to help out their family. Who am I to judge and call them selfish for that.
Was going to say the same thing. I did grow up poor, and I do have loyalty …. To my family.I'll say this. Some of you have never grew up in poverty and it really shows. Going to the NFL is basically like hitting the lottery, and they don't want to mess up the opportunity for that check to help out their family. Who am I to judge and call them selfish for that.
Might want to look up what happened to Jaylon Smith and Jake Butt in their bowl games and how it impacted their NFL futures.Name the last superstar that got hurt in a bowl game and was never heard from again. Marcus wasn’t hurt in a bowl game.
I agree, but I feel fairly certain none of those coaches were given the option to stay around to coach the bowl game.I noticed only half the article was about the players opting out. Everyone mysteriously forgets their righteous indignation when it comes to coaches leaving their current schools for greener (read: RICHER) pastures.
The fire-breahthers have been mighty quiet overall when it comes to Kelly, Riley, Cristobal and even McIlwain leaving early.
You weren't addressing me. But here's a few from several years ago:Name the last superstar that got hurt in a bowl game and was never heard from again. Marcus wasn’t hurt in a bowl game.
Heath, you beat me to it.Might want to look up what happened to Jaylon Smith and Jake Butt in their bowl games and how it impacted their NFL futures.
So, in other words, money talks? Interesting...I agree, but I feel fairly certain none of those coaches were given the option to stay around to coach the bowl game.
I’m saying their previous schools told them to move on. If I’m one of those P5 ADs and my coach decides to leave for LSU, Miami, So Cal, etc., he sure isn’t going to be given the option of sticking around for a month of bowl prep.So, in other words, money talks? Interesting...
But the point is everyone acts like it's just business as usual when coaches and ADs do what's in their best interests.I’m saying their previous schools told them to move on. If I’m one of those P5 ADs and my coach decides to leave for LSU, Miami, So Cal, etc., he sure isn’t going to be given the option of sticking around for a month of bowl prep.
I’ve always thought it was hypocritical when coaches were allowed to switch schools freely, but players had to sit a year (or even two if their previous school didn’t approve).But the point is everyone acts like it's just business as usual when coaches and ADs do what's in their best interests.
But when a player dares to do the same, he gets branded a quitter, disloyal, selfish, etc. It's pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
I agree. But now that the playing field has been leveled, there are those that only point fingers at the players. (Not necessarily you.)I’ve always thought it was hypocritical when coaches were allowed to switch schools freely, but players had to sit a year (or even two if their previous school didn’t approve).
I agree. But now that the playing field has been leveled, there are those only point fingers at the players. (Not necessarily you.)
Good points.........plus, if you're skipping the bowl and the coach let's you practice, you'll feel like an idiot if you get hurt in practice.If somebody doesn't want to be on the team any more, I'm probably better off as a coach letting them skip the bowl than persuading them to stay. It's too much trouble and drama to deal with a player who doesn't want to be there. If he actually did get injured in the bowl game, it would all fall on me as the guy who "made" him play in the game.
Having said that, if you opt-out of the bowl, there has to be an understanding that you are no longer on team. Muschamp's business of letting a player skip the bowl but continue to practice with the team and even be on the sidelines during the bowl was just ridiculous. It's not punishment and it's not done in anger. It's business. And like any business upon being given their 2-weeks notice by a middle-manager, you go ahead and show him the door today. There's just too much risk in letting somebody hang around the organization after they have expressed their intention to move on.
I'll say this. Some of you have never grew up in poverty and it really shows. Going to the NFL is basically like hitting the lottery, and they don't want to mess up the opportunity for that check to help out their family. Who am I to judge and call them selfish for that.
And yet coaches do it all the time.I’m sure all of the coaches agree with Leach. He’s the only one with enough gumption to say it. I can’t imagine bailing out on your coaches and teammates but it’s a different day and age.
And yet coaches do it all the time.
That's fair. But the vitriol from football fans is pretty one-sided.Players and coaches and people in general do it all the time. Doesn't make it right. Doesnt make it an upstanding thing to do. Its a reflection of the me me society we live in.
That's fair. But the vitriol from football fans is pretty one-sided.
Whatever man, you know what I mean. Like someone mentioned in this thread, I'm going to be loyal to my family over everything else. If my family is fighting evictions and can hardly keep on their lights, you damn right I'll skip a bowl game to prepare for the draft.When compared to pro sports money, most all of us would be considered as having grown up in poverty
Whatever man, you know what I mean. Like someone mentioned in this thread, I'm going to be loyal to my family over everything else. If my family is fighting evictions and can hardly keep on their lights, you damn right I'll skip a bowl game to prepare for the draft.
How many of them fit that description? Got to be some that do not. They just don’t want to play.Whatever man, you know what I mean. Like someone mentioned in this thread, I'm going to be loyal to my family over everything else. If my family is fighting evictions and can hardly keep on their lights, you damn right I'll skip a bowl game to prepare for the draft.
I you can play in senior bowl you can play in our bowlI'll say this. Some of you have never grew up in poverty and it really shows. Going to the NFL is basically like hitting the lottery, and they don't want to mess up the opportunity for that check to help out their family. Who am I to judge and call them selfish for that.
And college football is an internship.Like it or not, this is a business.
These young men are making a business decision.