I remember seeing muschamp tweet a spurs up after getting a verbal from a 3 star that we beat out app state for. I started scratching my head and wondering what the hell is going on. What we are seeing is the result of years of recruiting 2 and 3 stars combined with poor talent evaluation combined with poor coaching. Muschamp is probably one of the worst coaches we ever had right up there with richard bell and fat brad.
Muschamp loved 2 and 3 star players
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What’s baffling to me is how he got to be known as such a great talent evaluator. And it did seem that we ended up with far too many players who had little to NO other D1 offers. But, on these boards, if you were to say as much, you were blasted for it. Sigh..... We’re in for another long, tough slog to get this thing back on track, again.
Not that hard to be called an Elite recruiter when you’re recruiting for LSU, Texas, Auburn and Florida.
Dude, he did that for every commit and the idea that he should do it for blue chippers only and that he did something wrong by giving someone a little acknowledgment who accepted our invitation to play for us is really disrespectful, regardless their skill level or contributions. And one of those three stars we beat out no one impressive for, and he dared celebrate with "spurs-up" was Kevin Harris. Love to see what your signing day conference.
"We signed this Kevin Harris kid no one really wanted, he'll probably just stay on the scout team, I mean honestly we got a 4 star ahead of them so probably best you ignore him. There's this nasty myth that occasionally players turn out better than expected but test assured, as long as I'm coach, he'll never have a chance regardless of how he looks in practice or games."
Now I personally would love to know what your offer just was like out of high school, at we know if you're better and more deserving than Kevin Harris.
Muschamp had a lot of faults, but didn't he recruit 5* Jordan Burch, 5* MarShawn Lloyd, Top-100 Luke Doty, 5* Zach Pickens, Top 100 Ryan Hilinski, Top 102 Joseph Anderson, Top 100 R. Sandidge, and a host of other 4-stars? It seems to me ragging on his recruiting, especially on defense and at QB is a non-starter. You may find your next coach struggles to get that many top recruits.
I don't think the spurs up part is a big deal. If we've given a commitable offer to a player and he commits, then we SHOULD treat his commitment just like the commitment of a player who is rated as a 5 star. If not, isn't that showing the guy that you don't really want him?
He recruited well here until this year. He landed more 5* guys than any other coach has here, his classes were ranked about on oar with what Spurrier did.. Hell we are currently one of only three teams in the nation with 3 or more 4* QBs on the roster. What is glaring is his inability to identify, evaluate and recruit WRs specifically.. Talent evaluation was weak at multiple spots honestly but the other issue is SIZE! We have undersized DL, undersized LBs, undersized safeties... We just cannot take on a good SEC offense with under sized guys taking on massive linemen and skinny little safeties trying to take on RBs, TEs and WRs substantially bigger and stronger than them. By the end of a game we are wore out, beaten up and scared to tackle guys, and by the end of a season we are INJURED! We need more beef upfront and we HAVE TO FIND some LBs and Safeties who make someone pay when they get to the second level. It is mind boggling that Muschamp as a defensive guy could not see that or just simply did nothing about it if he did??
I remember when Texas lost a commitment from a 5-star Louisiana QB named Ryan Perrilloux from Louisiana. After signing day Mack Brown was hyping a 2-star QB named Colt McCoy, and I thought that was ridiculous, we were supposed to get that 5-star QB. Of course the 5-stars best chance to play may have been on a prison team, as far as I can tell. Colt McCoy, the 2-star, went on to be first team All-American, won the Davey O'Brien award as best QB and is still playing in the NFL today more than a decade and a half later.
He got a few recruits but he had zero fuching clue how to coach them.. that pos fat ass screwed this program big time
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Personally I liked Muschamp's approach to recruiting. Position coach had to approve, coordinator had to approve, recruiting coordinator (Muschamp) had to approve. Lots of eyes on each recruit. They missed on some but bigger programs came in late for a bunch of them. Winning more games probably would have helped a bit.
Muschamp was a terrible coach but unless we bring Meyer or possibly Freeze in to coach not a single other person on our coaching board will recruit any better than him.
He went to LSU, but had little success there. Started having legal troubles and team rules trouble right away. Was suspended his sophomore year. Had some problems at a casino. He reportedly was missing classes, workouts and at least one team meeting. Very entitled. Got in a fight at a nightclub. Coach Miles finally kicked him off the team and he wound up at Jackson State. Went undrafted, but played some Arena Football.
I don't disagree. But they were bashing Muschamp for recruiting and that wasn't his problem.
Yeah it was a problem. When you finish 4th every year in the East in recruiting. It's a problem.
Ryan P was a hell of a player too . Just couldn’t stay out of trouble . I thought we was gonna be a Heisman winner at LSU . What a waste of talent
