Our own Jim Clyburn, this is a relief bill for those that have lost jobs. They put in crap about airline emissions, abortion etc. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/03/23/clyburn-disrupts-pelosis-narrative-n2565499
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Relief, first and foremost, needs to go directly to people and not corporations. I expect industries to get relief, also, but trickle down economics (Voodoo Economics) doesn't work and it sure doesn't feed hungry people. The Republican plan, as always, is heavy on propping up their cronies and light on helping everyday people.
Ships are all flagged in Liberia and Panama for convenience.I agree with the part about the cruise industry. I've been on a couple of cruises and the waiters, workers, etc. are from foreign countries. The American taxpayer does not get any benefits at all from the cruise industry or very little if any.
The problem I have with all of this, is how the Senate tried to force through their bill without any input or negotiation from the other side of the aisle, which made all of this inevitable. The House pushes a bill, the Senate has to pass - the Senate pushes a bill, the House has to pass. So ANY bill is going to be vetted by either house of Congress.
But this is a critical time in the United States that should be receiving bipartisan input and support. So why did McConnell refuse Democratic input, and push through a one-sided bill? It pretty much made all this inevitable. The Democratic House has to represent their constituents as well, they just can't rubber-stamp something they had little to no input in. It's their tax-paying constituents' money too, not just Republican's tax dollars that's going to cover this check.....
“Biden himself said he is coming for our guns and is going to appoint Beto to do it.”
Just hide your gun. Beto won’t have much time to spend looking for it if he has to go house to house.
I plan on investing in gun manufacturing stock when Biden is elected. They always go up because gun sales go up because the democratic president is “gonna take our guns away.”
Hell, I am gonna lose 10 lbs.
Just said it, doubt that your guns get taken or I lose the weight.
Or they’re simply trying not to pour tons of money into companies that barely employ any US workers and keep their businesses registered in other countries to avoid paying into the US tax system.
Please explain why Pelosi put in automatic extensions for work visas for immigrants. Seems as though she should be more concerned with American’s losing their jobs.No one should be ok with Mnuchin and Trump being empowered to give away a half TRILLION dollars as they choose fit, and we won’t even be able to see who got the money until after the election.
That’s corruption, plain and simple. Dems want to provide assistance to the American people, but not unaccountable assistance to Rep donors and the Trump Org. Unlike Republicans in 2009 who didn’t vote for the Recovery Act and then screamed about it for years, Dems will do the right thing, but not with this poison pill of a secret slush fund included. None of us should want that.
How about you read the damn bill and tell us why there has to be diversity on a Corona virus asse. Team. That's in the bill. I don't know about you but I want the best of the best on this. I could give a shit less what color they are. How about the names and ethnicity and gender of the folks on the boards of who receives the money. What does airlines reducing carbon emissions by a 5 year deadline have to do with Corona virus. Dems are trying to put their shitty agenda in the bill and blaming Republicans for not signing it.. WTF? These folks are going to keep playing with people's lives until the Masse's revolt. People get tired of people with money playing games. When they get hungry all hells going to break out.Freddie, We disagree right down the line. All of those points you bring out are simply fed out to the public by those who influence many republicans to think in that way. Democrats do not want to open our borders to any and all who might cross, they don't want to take away all your guns and neither your nor I know just what that Green Deal is. Those are points that some use to get you to do what they want. Try thinking for yourself once in a while instead of parroting Rush and other ditto heads.
Please explain why Pelosi put in automatic extensions for work visas for immigrants. Seems as though she should be more concerned with American’s losing their jobs.
Seems pretty simple if you want to take care of working American’s, give us back our money. There were 150 million working Americans. Giving every worker $7,000 of their money back would cost $1 trillion. If you want to give us back $2 trillion then cut a $14,000 check.
That's not what happened and you know it.
Democrats put things in their bill that had nothing to do with this crisis.
Airline emissions
Student loan debt forgiveness
Same day voter registration
Ballot harvesting
Collective bargaining rights for unions
Wind and solar credits
Requirements for federal and corporate gender and racial diversity data
$20 billion post office bailout
Automatic extension of nonimmigrant visas
Restricting colleges from providing information about citizenship status
NONE of the crap belongs in this bill. Democrats are holding our economy hostage to push their liberal agenda. Ridiculous.
Then write another bill and cut another check. Why plow everything in one bill?What happens when that $14,000 is gone and they have no job to go back to?
You have to protect the small businesses, hospitals, and corporations.
You mean like Obama, Nancy and Chuck You Schumer did back in 2009???
In other news...
Christine Pelosi under fire for tweeting 'Rand Paul's neighbor was right' after senator's virus diagnosis
https://www.foxnews.com/media/christine-pelosi-rand-paul-coronavirus-neighbor-tweet
You don't really think anyone believes that lie?
I didn’t agree with giving the bailout money then and I don’t agree with most of it now either. Companies whose CEOs still pull million dollar bonuses while their employees are out of work don’t deserve any subsidies.You mean like Obama, Nancy and Chuck You Schumer did back in 2009???
In other news...
Christine Pelosi under fire for tweeting 'Rand Paul's neighbor was right' after senator's virus diagnosis
https://www.foxnews.com/media/christine-pelosi-rand-paul-coronavirus-neighbor-tweet
I agree with Freddie on this. The money grab with no oversight by mnuchin was almost a successful crime until Nancy stepped in and saved the American taxpayers.
I don't expect anyone here to change their because of anything I might say. I do expect even a little bit of respect for someone who has a different opinion. I would need something way more important than an internet forum to cause me to lie and you certainly don't qualify as that important. Manly, I just want any of the brain dead people here to know that there are a lot of people that think and do otherwise.
I may not be completely happy with Biden as a savior, but he is the choice of most people in America. Most know that getting rid of the imposter in the White House and the handler in the senate is the thing that will get them into the voting booth in great numbers in the fall.
I voted to get rid of Clinton and will vote much more easily to get rid of Trump. If it had been known that Bush would start a stupid,
unnecessary and wrongheaded war, It would have been Gore for me then. I may get things wrong sometimes but failing to spot a scammer like Trump or a crook like McConnell is not one of them.
I could not disagree more. I think Trump is our savior in this crisis. He follows his instincts which are usually correct. He implemented the travel ban early on even when a withering news media decried him as racist. This alone has saved thousands of lives. I don't know of another human being on the face of the earth who could do what this man has done under the constant barrage of a disingenuous agenda driven Democratic party and their propaganda machine some people laughably call a "news media".
Up until recently I thought he was the greatest President of my lifetime. I was wrong. He is the greatest President of ALL TIME. No other President we have ever had could have done and accomplished the things he has done, especially under the circumstances he has had to endure.
He is brash, arrogant, and sometimes crude. I did not like him before he became President and he was last on my list of the primary candidates. However, actions and results speak with far greater power than words. His action, his results, have made a believer out of me. If I could vote 10 times they would all be for Trump.
Sometimes, some jobs require an SOB to get it done. He can be an SOB, but by God, he is OUR SOB. And he is getting things done against phenomenal odds.
Freddie, We disagree right down the line. All of those points you bring out are simply fed out to the public by those who influence many republicans to think in that way. Democrats do not want to open our borders to any and all who might cross, they don't want to take away all your guns and neither your nor I know just what that Green Deal is. Those are points that some use to get you to do what they want. Try thinking for yourself once in a while instead of parroting Rush and other ditto heads.
Relief, first and foremost, needs to go directly to people and not corporations. I expect industries to get relief, also, but trickle down economics (Voodoo Economics) doesn't work and it sure doesn't feed hungry people. The Republican plan, as always, is heavy on propping up their cronies and light on helping everyday people.
I do expect even a little bit of respect for someone who has a different opinion.
Manly, I just want any of the brain dead people here to know that there are a lot of people that think and do otherwise.
I don't expect anyone here to change their because of anything I might say. I do expect even a little bit of respect for someone who has a different opinion. I would need something way more important than an internet forum to cause me to lie and you certainly don't qualify as that important. Manly, I just want any of the brain dead people here to know that there are a lot of people that think and do otherwise.
I may not be completely happy with Biden as a savior, but he is the choice of most people in America. Most know that getting rid of the imposter in the White House and the handler in the senate is the thing that will get them into the voting booth in great numbers in the fall.
I voted to get rid of Clinton and will vote much more easily to get rid of Trump. If it had been known that Bush would start a stupid,
unnecessary and wrongheaded war, It would have been Gore for me then. I may get things wrong sometimes but failing to spot a scammer like Trump or a crook like McConnell is not one of them.
Biden voted for that War genious . They all did. Good luck in Nov.I don't expect anyone here to change their because of anything I might say. I do expect even a little bit of respect for someone who has a different opinion. I would need something way more important than an internet forum to cause me to lie and you certainly don't qualify as that important. Manly, I just want any of the brain dead people here to know that there are a lot of people that think and do otherwise.
I may not be completely happy with Biden as a savior, but he is the choice of most people in America. Most know that getting rid of the imposter in the White House and the handler in the senate is the thing that will get them into the voting booth in great numbers in the fall.
I voted to get rid of Clinton and will vote much more easily to get rid of Trump. If it had been known that Bush would start a stupid,
unnecessary and wrongheaded war, It would have been Gore for me then. I may get things wrong sometimes but failing to spot a scammer like Trump or a crook like McConnell is not one of them.
When I have the chance, I explain to people that having a LOT of division in America is a good thing. I disagree with every word you wrote above and my approach to life is obviously very, very different than yours.
but that’s a good thing. You would not want to be like me, and I would not like to be like you. That’s why division, differences, and debates about such matters is important.
“Democrats do not want to open our borders... they don't want to take away All your guns” Either you are playing semantics or you haven’t been paying attention.Freddie, We disagree right down the line. All of those points you bring out are simply fed out to the public by those who influence many republicans to think in that way. Democrats do not want to open our borders to any and all who might cross, they don't want to take away all your guns and neither your nor I know just what that Green Deal is. Those are points that some use to get you to do what they want. Try thinking for yourself once in a while instead of parroting Rush and other ditto heads.
“Biden himself said he is coming for our guns and is going to appoint Beto to do it.”
Just hide your gun. Beto won’t have much time to spend looking for it if he has to go house to house.
I plan on investing in gun manufacturing stock when Biden is elected. They always go up because gun sales go up because the democratic president is “gonna take our guns away.”
Hell, I am gonna lose 10 lbs.
Just said it, doubt that your guns get taken or I lose the weight.
Our views in life are shaped by what we experience and what we see and observe. I don't know what your experiences have been, but in my case, I lost a very good management job years ago due to racism. I'm a white male and I, along with several other white males, were fired when we had done nothing wrong (my termination letter unbelievably stated so, and yes, I won my lawsuit). Meanwhile, the department where all the problems occurred was managed by a black female. The President of the company was a liberal female. Guess who was the only member of management that didn't get fired?
More recently I lost my entire livelihood due to the incompetence of President Obama - who I consider the worst President in history (and I am including Jimmy Carter on that list). Liberalism and socialism - not the corona virus - are the greatest threats to our country and to our freedoms. That is why I will fight them until my last breath on this earth. I will do so because of my love for this country and all it stands for. It is the greatest country on the face of the earth where everyone has the opportunity to succeed if they want to. Where else could I have over come the obstacles I stated above and go on to still be a very successful business man? I'm not about to let a bunch of ignorant fools destroy the ideals of this great nation without a fight.
If you don't agree with me, so be it. That is certainly your right. All I ask of anyone is be sincere in your beliefs, and follow what your life experiences tell you is right, and what your brain tells you is just.
What happens when that $14,000 is gone and they have no job to go back to?
You have to protect the small businesses.....
What happens when that $14,000 is gone and they have no job to go back to?
You have to protect the hospitals.....
What happens when that $14,000 is gone and they have no job to go back to?
You have to protect the corporations.
Well, I will take Trump and other Republicans over Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Shumer, AOC and the rest anytime. Nancy Pelosi and the rest of that nutty bunch on the left will open up the borders, take away our guns, implement the Green New Deal so quickly it will make our heads swim. Nancy Pelosi will do any and everything to hurt Trump regardless of what the consequences are for the Nation.
Freddie, We disagree right down the line. All of those points you bring out are simply fed out to the public by those who influence many republicans to think in that way. Democrats do not want to open our borders to any and all who might cross, they don't want to take away all your guns and neither your nor I know just what that Green Deal is. Those are points that some use to get you to do what they want. Try thinking for yourself once in a while instead of parroting Rush and other ditto heads.
Wasn’t that how we got Obamacare in the first place. Sign it then read itThe problem I have with all of this, is how the Senate tried to force through their bill without any input or negotiation from the other side of the aisle, which made all of this inevitable. The House pushes a bill, the Senate has to pass - the Senate pushes a bill, the House has to pass. So ANY bill is going to be vetted by either house of Congress.
But this is a critical time in the United States that should be receiving bipartisan input and support. So why did McConnell refuse Democratic input, and push through a one-sided bill? It pretty much made all this inevitable. The Democratic House has to represent their constituents as well, they just can't rubber-stamp something they had little to no input in. It's their tax-paying constituents' money too, not just Republican's tax dollars that's going to cover this check.....
As I said above, I disagreed with every word you wrote above and my approach to life is obviously very, very different than yours.nothing you wrote changed that at all. My experience is very different than yours. Therefore, my conclusions are also very different.
but that’s a good thing. You would not want to be like me, and I definitely would not want to be like you.
Relief, first and foremost, needs to go directly to people and not corporations. I expect industries to get relief, also, but trickle down economics (Voodoo Economics) doesn't work and it sure doesn't feed hungry people. The Republican plan, as always, is heavy on propping up their cronies and light on helping everyday people.