Neal Young 0-3

[DeeDave]

Meh, he's just another dude that found out if pander to the most basic people on either side of the aisle they will make you a bunch of money.

The key to cable news, podcasts, talk radio, etc- is to tell your audience 90% of what they want to hear, what most of them already believe, and reinforce those beliefs- no matter if they are conservative, liberal, libertarian, Clemson fan, Gamecock fan, Georgia fan, etc...

Then tell them about 5% of what they don't want to hear to make them feel like you aren't pandering to them. That way the audience can turn off the show and tell themselves "Hey, I didn't agree with everything so I am keeping an open mind" because everyone wants to tell themselves they have an open mind on some level - even if they really don't.

I'm not saying anyone can do it. But I am saying it doesn't really take that much if you hit on the formula and just just enough noise to get an audience.

If I ever find a cable news host, talk radio, podcast, etc that tells me 50% of the stuff I don't want to hear in a challenging, intellectually honest way, consistent manner, that will be the show I listen to because that's what I enjoy. I like learning new things, and I like honestly and fairly testing what I know and seeing if it stacks up

I detest listening to hosts that tell me 90% of what I already believe or think I believe. So boring and mindless.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

When you lock down a country for over a year and constantly promote that COVID is going to be the end of civilization as we know it, people are going to panic when they inevitably get it and race to the hospital.

Also, even Fauci is stating that up to 60% of the cases in the hospital are due to other issues and simply test positive for COVID while they are there. Not to mention the healthcare workers who were forced to resign.

They even fired nurses that already had covid and had natural immunity but wouldn't get the vaccine, even though we know natural immunity is many times more effective than the vaccine. So, we fired the nurses that were the LOWEST threat to patients. Incredibly stupid.

Not to mention that all these folks were good enough to come in and work, risking their lives, when there was no vaccine. Suddenly, they because the enemy and deserved to be fired because they would get a vaccine that didn't work as well as the immunity the already had.

Disgusting.

 

[DeeDave]

When you lock down a country for over a year and constantly promote that COVID is going to be the end of civilization as we know it, people are going to panic when they inevitably get it and race to the hospital.

Also, even Fauci is stating that up to 60% of the cases in the hospital are due to other issues and simply test positive for COVID while they are there. Not to mention the healthcare workers who were forced to resign.

I am not going to argue with you. My sister isn't taking care of people that are scared of a hurt arm or a cold.

She's up to her neck in people that can't breathe and has been for a LONG time. But again, I'm not going to argue with you about it. You think whatever you like.

 

[DeeDave]

They even fired nurses that already had covid and had natural immunity but wouldn't get the vaccine, even though we know natural immunity is many times more effective than the vaccine.

The problem with natural immunity is that there is no way to effectively test someone's protection against a variant or the virus itself.

People that have had COVID, get COVID again. Sometimes they get it back to back quite quickly. Of course this can also happen with those vaccinated.

There is so much we don't know about natural immunity. The main thing is we don't have a good test for it- and we don't understand how it impacts certain people. One person builds natural immunity quickly after an infection and others can have the virus and seemingly have almost no antibodies produced by their body and we aren't really sure why.

But you know. that. This argument has been had 4000 times now and no one will change their minds.

It is what it is.

 

[turncock]

The key to cable news, podcasts, talk radio, etc- is to tell your audience 90% of what they want to hear, what most of them already believe, and reinforce those beliefs- no matter if they are conservative, liberal, libertarian, Clemson fan, Gamecock fan, Georgia fan, etc...

Then tell them about 5% of what they don't want to hear to make them feel like you aren't pandering to them. That way the audience can turn off the show and tell themselves "Hey, I didn't agree with everything so I am keeping an open mind"

I'm not saying anyone can do it. But I am saying it doesn't really take that much if you hit on the formula and just just enough noise to get an audience.

If I ever find a cable news host, talk radio, podcast, etc that tells me 50% of the stuff I don't want to hear in a challenging, intellectually honest way, consistent manner, that will be the show I listen to because that's what I enjoy.

I detest listening to hosts that tell me 90% of what I already believe or think I believe. So boring and mindless.

What you are describing is mainstream media in it's current state. This isn't 1980 or even 2010. Blackrock now owns a majority interest in AP, Reuters, CNN, FOX, NPR and others. They also have a similar interest in all of the Pharma companies providing the vaccines as well as military defense contracts. You are no longer listening to independent reporting. If you need me to point you to their financial holdings which is a matter of public record, I can do so. This is why all of the decent journalists are now on SubStack and others.

 

[ToddFlanders]

Have you ever seen another dude dominate all of mainstream media ratings by multiples? That happens when you are reporting all sides of the issue.

That's just the thing - he isn't reporting "news" like you see on Fox and MSNBC. He's an entertainer first - always has been. His podcast has always been entertainment, but he sent it through the stratosphere when he realized that mixing in hardcore politics is what really gets people riled up. (Podcasts that you can listen to anywhere are also a completely different genre than a nightly "news" show on TV at a particular time.)

Good for him though. I don't besmirch anyone for making money. It's just funny to see what people buy into as a source of information.

 

[turncock]

I am not going to argue with you. My sister isn't taking care of people that are scared of a hurt arm or a cold.

She's up to her neck in people that can't breathe and has been for a LONG time. But again, I'm not going to argue with you about it. You think whatever you like.

That's what happens in hospitals - during COVID or otherwise. Follow the statistics being released by the governments of the highest vaxxed nations. You can't do that here because they placed a gag order on it last summer. But even Fauci is having to change is tune now because there's no way to reconcile the two.

 

[turncock]

That's just the thing - he isn't reporting "news" like you see on Fox and MSNBC. He's an entertainer first - always has been. His podcast has always been entertainment, but he sent it through the stratosphere when he realized that mixing in hardcore politics is what really gets people riled up. (Podcasts that you can listen to anywhere are also a completely different genre than a nightly "news" show on TV at a particular time.)

Good for him though. I don't besmirch anyone for making money. It's just funny to see what people buy into as a source of information.

Honestly, are you watching the show at all? He's had expert after expert on - even Gupta from CNN. This is high level information and from both directions. Now look at what MSM is doing.

 

[MookieBlaylock9]

So what did Rogan say? I saw that he tried to tell an expert that vaccines were more dangerous for kids than covid when the evidence said otherwise. Other than that, I am not sure what was said.

I don't understand the criticism of the podcast. He seems to bring on a variety of experts and allows time for nuance, which is a good thing. He is a bit of a tool, but I've enjoyed the few podcasts I've listened to. Has something happened since the move to Spotify?

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

The problem with natural immunity is that there is no way to effectively test someone's protection against a variant or the virus itself.

But you know. that. This argument has been had 4000 times now and no one will change their minds.

It is what it is.

That's no different than with the vaccines. That's why at lot of folks with vax are ending up in the hospital too.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Honestly, are you watching the show at all? He's had expert after expert on - even Gupta from CNN. This is high level information and from both directions. Now look at what MSM is doing.

And Gupta admitted that CNN was wrong in claiming Rogan took a horse dewormer.

 

[MookieBlaylock9]

That's just the thing - he isn't reporting "news" like you see on Fox and MSNBC. He's an entertainer first - always has been. His podcast has always been entertainment, but he sent it through the stratosphere when he realized that mixing in hardcore politics is what really gets people riled up. (Podcasts that you can listen to anywhere are also a completely different genre than a nightly "news" show on TV at a particular time.)

Good for him though. I don't besmirch anyone for making money. It's just funny to see what people buy into as a source of information.

Clay Travis

 

[DeeDave]

That's no different than with the vaccines. That's why at lot of folks with vax are ending up in the hospital too.

I can't answer for anyone else.

I know my sister told me that 90% of their patients are not vaccinated. The 10% that are- or say they are- about 5% of them are not in the ICU, but are just admitted to the hospital.

She tells me that by far their sickest patients are the unvaccinated patients and that has been the case since the vaccines came out in December 2020. A number of them end up in the ICU.

Her info seems to be consistent with Prisma, MUSC, and Lexington hospital data. My sister works at a rural hospital.

All I can go on is the data she reports to me, that has been consistent.

To me, everything else is just opinion.

 

[MookieBlaylock9]

That's no different than with the vaccines. That's why at lot of folks with vax are ending up in the hospital too.

Stop. It's a small fraction of hospitalizations and deaths. How many different ways does this need to be said?

 

[DeeDave]

I don't understand the criticism of the podcast.

Honestly, I can't believe adults listen to that crap- or anyone like him. It's mindless drivel to me.

But everyone is different.

I listen to 1 podcast - Flights Safety Detectives where Former NTSB Investigators Greg Feith and John Goglia discuss airplane safety and specific airline accidents. They also explain how to conduct proper safety investigations.

Now that's what I listen to because I like learning from them. No, I am not a pilot but I still learn a lot about process safety and proper investigative methods from them.

 

[turncock]

I can't answer for anyone else.

I know my sister told me that 90% of their patients are not vaccinated. The 10% that are- or say they are- about 5% of them are not in the ICU, but are just admitted to the hospital.

She tells me that by far their sickest patients are the unvaccinated patients and that has been the case since the vaccines came out in December 2020. A number of them end up in the ICU.

Her info seems to be consistent with Prisma, MUSC, and Lexington hospital data. My sister works at a rural hospital.

All I can go on is the data she reports to me, that has been consistent.

To me, everything else is just opinion.

Over 4 Billion people have been vaccinated throughout the world. Below is today's chart:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Dai...me..69i57.12252j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It's striking. They need to stop boosting for a variant that's been gone for over a year. That would be a good start.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

I can't answer for anyone else.

I know my sister told me that 90% of their patients are not vaccinated. The 10% that are- or say they are- about 5% of them are not in the ICU, but are just admitted to the hospital.

She tells me that by far their sickest patients are the unvaccinated patients and that has been the case since the vaccines came out in December 2020. A number of them end up in the ICU.

Her info seems to be consistent with Prisma, MUSC, and Lexington hospital data. My sister works at a rural hospital.

All I can go on is the data she reports to me, that has been consistent.

To me, everything else is just opinion.

Yesterday's numbers for Lexington Medical Center for today is about 40% vaxxed for both being in the hospital for covid and being in ICU. They post the numbers every day on twitter.

 

[DeeDave]

Over 4 Billion people have been vaccinated throughout the world. Below is today's chart:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dai...me..69i57.12252j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Yep- and about 53% in South Carolina- one of the lower end states.

 

[MookieBlaylock9]

Honestly, I can't believe adults listen to that crap- or anyone like him. It's mindless drivel to me.

But everyone is different.

I listen to 1 podcast - Flights Safety Detectives where Former NTSB Investigators Greg Feith and John Goglia discuss airplane safety and specific airline accidents. They also explain how to conduct proper safety investigations.

Now that's what I listen to because I like learning from them. No, I am not a pilot but I still learn a lot about process safety and proper investigative methods from them.

I've listened to a few episodes. I am actually listening to an old one now with an author that wrote a book about coyotes. Rogan is just letting the guy talk. I'm learning. What is crap?

 

[turncock]

Yep- and about 53% in South Carolina- one of the lower end states.

Why do you believe many of the highest vaccinated countries are throwing in the towel - UK, Sweden, etc?

If you don't know, I can provide data from each that links directly back to their respective government-based websites showing that there's little to no deviation in those who are ending up in the hospital.

 

[DeeDave]

Yesterday's numbers for Lexington Medical Center for today is about 40% vaxxed for both being in the hospital for covid and being in ICU. They post the numbers every day on twitter.

Yep. I see their numbers.
Their numbers for Jan 28th are:

138 hospitalized

17 vaccinated and boosted
35 vaccinated
86 unvaccinated


21 in the Intensive Care Unit
4 vaccinated + boosted
4 vaccinated
13 unvaccinated

 

[turncock]

I've listened to a few episodes. I am actually listening to an old one now with an author that wrote a book about coyotes. Rogan is just letting the guy talk. I'm learning. What is crap?

Agree. Crap is when your dogma overrides common sense.

 

[bucketdad]

The problem with natural immunity is that there is no way to effectively test someone's protection against a variant or the virus itself.

People that have had COVID, get COVID again. Sometimes they get it back to back quite quickly. Of course this can also happen with those vaccinated.

There is so much we don't know about natural immunity. The main thing is we don't have a good test for it- and we don't understand how it impacts certain people. One person builds natural immunity quickly after an infection and others can have the virus and seemingly have almost no antibodies produced by their body and we aren't really sure why.

But you know. that. This argument has been had 4000 times now and no one will change their minds.

It is what it is.

There is so much we dont know about natural immunity because it's been ignored for the most part because it did nothing when it comes to getting shots in arms. That is all that mattered to ones calling the shots. We are under one trick pony rule. Even tests took a back seat... if they were invited to the party at all. Evidently, sometimes they werent. They didnt order them claiming they didnt see this variant coming... dispite science claiming it was. Scary thought knowing the incompetent are calling the shots.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Stop. It's a small fraction of hospitalizations and deaths. How many different ways does this need to be said?

No, you stop. They post the numbers, and it's not a "small fraction" of hospitalization. Almost 40% is NOT a small fraction.

 

[DeeDave]

Prisma Health Data from January 26th

675 hospitalized
142 vaccinated
533 unvaccinated (79%)


65 on ventilators 10 of those are vaccinated (15%), 55 unvaccinated (85%)

Coronavirus

We are here for all your COVID-19 needs Whether you have questions or need care, Prisma Health can help.

www.prismahealth.org

 

[Ratheolcoach]

What a stupid post.

NY certainly didn’t lose to Skynard. They actually got along in the end. Neil is one of the greatest living song writers ever and Skynard is some sad, pathetic cover band now. So I guess Neil came out on top there.

W/ regards to Rogan and Spotify- Young knew what he was doing. Spotify pays Neil next to nothing. He wanted to get booted from the platform while making a point about Rogan. Rogan is a dipshit hack who got famous from a show about people eating bugs. Neil is an icon. Thinking that Rogan won only shows that you’re too stupid to understand Neil’s endgame.

What a crappy way to think. You realize Skynard had a somewhat catastrophic plane crash right. Neil Young sucks balls.

 

[DeeDave]

No, you stop. They post the numbers, and it's not a "small fraction" of hospitalization. Almost 40% is NOT a small fraction.

That looks to be a bit on the high end. Going back over a week or so 40% is the highest. The other dates look to average out in the 20-30% range.

for example, on Jan 21st, no patients that had received a booster were in the ICU. 17 patients were in ICU that had been unvaccinated.

Their stats show those with the booster were the least likely to be in the ICU- by a pretty good bit.

 

[turncock]

Prisma Health Data from January 26th

675 hospitalized
142 vaccinated
533 unvaccinated (79%)


65 on ventilators 10 of those are vaccinated (15%), 55 unvaccinated (85%)

Coronavirus

We are here for all your COVID-19 needs Whether you have questions or need care, Prisma Health can help.

www.prismahealth.org

Were even half in the hospital because of COVID? No one is disputing that vaccines could possibly be helpful in complicated cases if you are comfortable with the counter risk. I'm not young and wish the vaccines had been the savior. However, at this point would far prefer to address with medications that have been out for decades with a solid safety profile.

Look at the numbers across the world. Science isn't winning this one - Biology is. Let the MDs treat this however they see fit like every other disease. Cut the one-way nonsense.

 

[DeeDave]

Were even half in the hospital because of COVID? No one is disputing that vaccines could possibly be helpful in complicated cases if you are comfortable with the counter risk. I'm not young and wish the vaccines had been the savior. However, at this point would far prefer to address with medications that have been out for decades with a solid safety profile.

Look at the numbers across the world. Science isn't winning this one - Biology is. Let the MDs treat this however they see fit like every other disease. Cut the one-way nonsense.

I'm sure the hospital can answer. But I can't.

It's clear to me you are seeking out info that backs up your opinion. I'm not playing that game. It's too tiresome and silly to me.

Of course you can take whatever medications, drugs, etc you choose to take no matter how worthless. I don't care about that. Just protect other people who may not agree with you. Everyone should be doing that anyway.

We disagree - and we are not going to agree.

 

[andersoncountycock]

A Southern man don't need him around anyway.

Well I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

 

[MookieBlaylock9]

No, you stop. They post the numbers, and it's not a "small fraction" of hospitalization. Almost 40% is NOT a small fraction.

Is your head in the sand? It has been the case since the vaccines were introduced, that unvaccinated people were a huge percentage of those hospitalized with covid. I'm not going to share one of those thousands of articles. You can do that if you'd like.

And here are the stats you are citing, which is one hospital at one point in the pandemic. I looked back at their past tweets and it looks like you chose the stats with the highest percentage of vaxxed hospitilizations. You notice how the people with the booster shot are an even smaller percentage? It's really not a mystery.

 

[psycock]

Love it when they show quotes from the leftists at CNN or MSNBC talking about the "propaganda" on Fox News. That apparently is all they spew on those networks. Just take the opposite opinions that they promote and chances are you will be right. Those people are despicable. And for those who bash Fox, most of them probably have never watched it. I would challenge them to watch it for one solid week and see if their opinion changes. The left wants to establish socialism and can only be stopped by the upcoming elections. The incompetent Biden is being controlled by them and is too weak to fight them or else he doesn`t understand how destructive his policies are. I hope Spotify will stick to their support of free speech and not cave in. Also, Mitt Romney is the latest to be fully vaxxed, boosted and be +. Not knocking it - I`m also fully vaxxed and boosted. But this shaming of others who make a different medical decision for themselves and their family is pathetic.

 

[Garnet chicken]

Well I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

I wasn't quoting. Just threw it out there in a quick memory.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Is your head in the sand? It has been the case since the vaccines were introduced, that unvaccinated people were a huge percentage of those hospitalized with covid. I'm not going to share one of those thousands of articles. You can do that if you'd like.

And here are the stats you are citing, which is one hospital at one point in the pandemic. I looked back at their past tweets and it looks like you chose the stats with the highest percentage of vaxxed hospitilizations. You notice how the people with the booster shot are an even smaller percentage? It's really not a mystery.

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I chose the most recent data for obvious reasons. And yes, boosted are the smallest percentage, just as they are the smallest percentage of the population in SC.

I'm not denying that vaccines do help some, but their effectiveness is being oversold now just as they were in the beginning when they were supposed to completely stop the virus and give us herd immunity. That's why, deaths in the US are at just about the same level they were last January before widespread vaccinations, despite omicron being less severe than the other variant. You can't blame that on the unvaccinated with 80% of the country has gotten the vaccine.

But, back to the point. There was ZERO reason to fire nurse that already had covid and had natural immunity because they wouldn't get the vaccine. They actually offered MORE protect to patients than vaccinated nurses.

 

[lexgamecock]

Lost to Lynyrd Skynyrd, Joe Rogan, Spotify.

Neil Young sold the rights to his royalties anyway. And tried to sell them to Donald Trump. Proven and pictures to prove it.

 

[cocks rule]

Lol been a watching real time with Bill Maher who is a polar opposite to me 95% of the time but even he is sounding the alarm on this leftist woke crap. Its going to be a bloodbath for democrats this midterm because of it...

Thank God.

 

[Cybercock]

Yep. I see their numbers.
Their numbers for Jan 28th are:

138 hospitalized

17 vaccinated and boosted
35 vaccinated
86 unvaccinated


21 in the Intensive Care Unit
4 vaccinated + boosted
4 vaccinated
13 unvaccinated

So regardless of the breakdown 138 people are in the hospital. Ideally it would be great if that number was 0 but it will never be zero.
138 sick people of which 21 are in icu is no reason to feeak out like people do.
Life your life.

 

[cocks rule]

The problem with natural immunity is that there is no way to effectively test someone's protection against a variant or the virus itself.

People that have had COVID, get COVID again. Sometimes they get it back to back quite quickly. Of course this can also happen with those vaccinated.

There is so much we don't know about natural immunity. The main thing is we don't have a good test for it- and we don't understand how it impacts certain people. One person builds natural immunity quickly after an infection and others can have the virus and seemingly have almost no antibodies produced by their body and we aren't really sure why.

But you know. that. This argument has been had 4000 times now and no one will change their minds.

It is what it is.

Look, if you worry about every little thing out there that CAN kill you your life’s over anyway. Argue with that!

 

[cocks rule]

So regardless of the breakdown 138 people are in the hospital. Ideally it would be great if that number was 0 but it will never be zero.
138 sick people of which 21 are in icu is no reason to feeak out like people do.
Life your life.

Hospitals are designed to be 80% full all the time. We all know that. Without continuous high occupancy they’ll shut it down because it’s not profitable

 

[thebittertruth]

Rogan is a dipshit hack who got famous from a show about people eating bugs.

You're one, too. Just not famous.