Poorly coached
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Spurrier won the east in year 6. Beamer still has no business being an SEC head coach. We were beating solid UGA and Clemson teams regularly too.
Well, part of that is because our QB hasn't been able to push the ball down the field. Until he does, teams are going to bring pressure. That's tough on an Oline.
By what measure?
What's your comparative for that assessment because it's nothing our team has done in 116 years and Beamer has been here for over 3 years now?
Never was a coordinator at any level. Was a tight end coach before getting the job. He was a lazy, cheap hire. He should have been a head coach at a lower level first.
Yeah, NIL is an issue for us for sure. All estimates have us being outspent by a lot. Based on where the talent is going, it's pretty easy to tell who is putting their money where their mouth is. Tougher to tell how much each individual is being paid.
Never seen anyone on this site disagree with the following assessment:
"I've posted this before -- but if we had Lloyd, Wells, and Jaheim Bell on the field last season -- it would have been a continuation of the second half of 2022 with Rattler at the helm. We would have won 7 games or more...."
If that had happened, we would have been in a good bowl game and Beamer would be our winningest coach ever after 3 seasons.
So the argument then moves back to -- "We're not spending our money wisely" -- which we have zero evidence of.
What we do know is that we're losing players and not buying much (if any) big high school talent.
Nonetheless, it would have nothing to do with Beamer's coaching ability.
You're getting caught up in the "Frank's Boy" meme.
All that was valid criticism at the time of hiring, but not after his first 2 years. One year with a step back doesn't negate that.
We'll have to agree to disagree. But regardless of the NIL, the final product falls on the head coach. If we aren't making bowl games at least (low threshold), he needs to be gone. No excuses.
Isn't this self-evident? Our players are walking and we're not really even involved in the major high school talent.
When's the last time we picked up a player over one of the larger NIL teams in the last two years?
Harbor and that's about it.
King Ward said it best a few weeks back.
Until they either cap the NIL or have similar budgets, there's no absolutely no way you can determine if a college football coach's value or lack thereof anymore.
Six wins shouldn't be that difficult if you know what you're doing. Nobody here is expecting another East title in our lifetime. Though I'd gladly take one.
What about poor coordinator hires? Not Shane's fault, right?
I would agree with you if we weren't losing our best talent at the end of each season.
That's the ball breaker.
We could have used Mario Anderson and Juice Wells on Saturday.
They would have been our two best players on offense and provided Sellers some experienced outlets.
Why haven't they developed Harbor? Why is the staff completely blameless according to you?
He doesn't look like a WR to me. I'm sure they are trying to use his athletic ability at that position since we lost Wells and XL.
And maybe he's a bust in football? That can happen even with big time high school players.
I was critical of Loggains and his play calling all last season.
On Saturday, it was clear we just don't have much talent on the field and there's a reason for that.
Ok, why haven't they developed other receivers on the roster. The coaches bear no responsibility, right? Got it.
Did you play any football?
We have a new QB and new WRs who aren't on the same page because they just started playing together in real action.
This is very common.
Do you remember the first half of Rattler's first season at USC?
It was rough even with stud receivers, stud TE, solid running back and a big D1 QB in Rattler who had played two seasons.
Sellers and the WR core deserve time to develop.
It was an autocorrect. It was supposed to say if he gets 7 wins he should get an extra year.
But there isn’t a legitimate path to 7 wins anyway.
Nobody stood out against ODU. Nobody stood out last year except one receiver. Common theme. Hopefully they gel. This weekend didn't look promising. Time will tell.
If he does pull the trigger he does not need to be around for the next hire.
South Carolina football has made history. In the first 16-team SEC power rankings, we are the first team to be ranked 16th. Not Vandy. Not Florida. But South Carolina. As the old Smith Barney commercials said: We made last place the old fashioned way: We eeaarrnneedd it.
Ward, at least we can laugh about it. Beats crying about it. Thankfully, it's just a game and not a matter of life and death.Hope you'll be able to sleep tonight Stock.
Bogus in My opinion. They are UNDEFEATED... I know it was a Non power conference team, But it was a WIN.. This team is NOT good, But worst in SEC?? IMO no!!
Agree. We played poorly in the first game, maybe the worst opener I can recall, considering the opposition. I just can't believe we are as bad and poorly coached as we looked. I think we will bounce back. It's up to the $6 million man to get it done.
We did play very poorly.
I expect we will play better this week. Typically, when I think we are at our worst, we turn around and look better the next game which is frustrating because it proves we can play better when we focus. I know we weren't focused last week because I was at the game and you could see the confusion.
However, that doesn't mean we win. In fact, it doesn't mean we keep it close. I have no feeling on whether we will or not.
I do know if we play anything like we did last week, we will lose by 3-4 touchdowns. But, we could play better, and still lose by 14-17 points or more.
It's not worth getting upset about though- or arguing about. None of us know. I have some fun things to do Saturday anyway and I hope to be able to catch a little bit of the game.
I just wanted to bump this because I saw an article about Ole Miss losing their starting rb to Ohio State.
Weird if they are just flaunting so much more money than everyone else.
Look at the ESPN GameDay tape from Saturday.
The Ohio State NIL budget was center stage.
Two big wallet schools clashing.
Ole Miss actually got outbid on one.
I think Ohio State has more NIL money than anyone else, except possibly Oregon. But regarding us (and I've seen nothing to say how much NIL money we have), I don't care If Warren Buffett funded our NIL budget. If we can't coach any better than our guys looked on Saturday, it won't make a bit of difference.
If Buffett funded an NIL program, Nebraska would have its entire roster composed of only Blue-chippers. I’m sure there are many ‘Huskers fans that wish he would cough up some NIL money….but Buffett is not stupid.
That was not Georgia's defense we were playing against on Saturday. In fact, ODU was a mediocre defense last year, ranking number 75 in the country.
The Re-Troll. This has all been discussed in terms of skill players on the field.
You’re arguing that ODU had better players on defense than we had on offense?
Seriously?
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