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I posted when he moved over that we might be weakening two positions in one move. You're just posting the same thing in reverse.but he's got an awesome one for coaching NCAA men's baseball. So put him back where he thrives, and go hire a sports administrator to run USC sports. I tell you, I'm full of bright ideas today.
We were going to lose Ray as a baseball coach either way... he would have found some smaller school to go be AD. I agree it didn't have to be us but the baseball ship would have sailed either way.
People forget that Ray did a lot of AD admin work while at NCSU. He did not start from nothing.We were going to lose Ray as a baseball coach either way... he would have found some smaller school to go be AD. I agree it didn't have to be us but the baseball ship would have sailed either way.
It wasn't a little bit of experience. You make it sound like he had a paper route for extra money.(showing my age)He worked in the AD office at State for 16 years and as assistant AD at state for 10 years and shouldered many of the primary duties of AD while Jim Valvano was dying of cancer.Even if he had the resume (little bit of experience at NC State), he doesn't have the personality/demeanor.
Love the guy and he is the greatest Gamecock coach of all time, but he wasn't cut out to be an AD.
People forget that Ray did a lot of AD admin work while at NCSU. He did not start from nothing.
As I said earlier while Valvano was dying of cancer Ray shouldered many of the primary functions of AD. For Ray it was not a throwaway titleEveryone from the compliance guy to the external operations person in an athletic department is an "Associate Athletic Director." It's a throwaway title.
As I said earlier while Valvano was dying of cancer Ray shouldered many of the primary functions of AD. For Ray it was not a throwaway title
Bring Brad Edwards home!!
The first three wanted to coach and be AD. Not a good idea. Notwithstanding the workload, there can be a conflict of interest, and it sure bit USC in the butt from the mid '60s to the early '80s.Paul Dietzel wanted to be an AD.
Frank McGuire wanted to be an AD.
Jim Carlen wanted to be an AD.
Ray Tanner wanted to be an AD.
Nick Saban has never indicated a desire to be an AD. Yet, he is probably one of the best college football coaches ever.
I want us to hire coaches who want to COACH, and when they tire of that, then let the AD know that they're ready to hang it up . . BEFORE they let a bunch of media types in on their plans.
What's wrong with giving Tanner a chance to do his job? His tenure will be defined by his hires, Muschamp and Holbrook...Coach Staley is the pride of the University right now..But Tanner inherited her excellence...
I think Muschamp will prove to be a great hire...I think given time BOOM could duplicate Dawns success...There is no doubt in my mind after this weekend that Holbrook is a complete imbecile...We'll see if Tanner has the balls to address that issue in June
As I said earlier while Valvano was dying of cancer Ray shouldered many of the primary functions of AD. For Ray it was not a throwaway title
As I said earlier while Valvano was dying of cancer Ray shouldered many of the primary functions of AD. For Ray it was not a throwaway title
What's wrong with giving Tanner a chance to do his job? His tenure will be defined by his hires, Muschamp and Holbrook...Coach Staley is the pride of the University right now..But Tanner inherited her excellence...
I think Muschamp will prove to be a great hire...I think given time BOOM could duplicate Dawns success...There is no doubt in my mind after this weekend that Holbrook is a complete imbecile...We'll see if Tanner has the balls to address that issue in June
Tanner chose the location, completely designed, and did all the grunt work to get Founders Park developed and built. It was designed after Baum, the Arkansas stadium. He even went to Arkansas and met with the Baum architects. This was done while still coaching. Mike McGee reneged on a promise to have a new stadium built, and Tanner was about to accept the job at Texas A&M when Dr. Sorensen intervened and told him to build his stadium.All this talk about Tanner being an assoc AD at NC State is laughable. First, NC State's all around athletic department was nothing to be proud of. Mediocre teams at best with crap facilities until the city of Raleigh leveraged them to help build the new arena that would be home to State basketball and the new NHL team. I 100% believe our program deserves to hire someone who has a proven track of success actually doing the job (AD....not Assoc AD) at another school. The current AD model is one more patterned after a CEO than coach or simply fundraiser. And the wheels were turning hard on progress for Founders Park by the time Tanner took over as AD. In fact, the restructuring of the entire financial model of Carolina athletics that has led to all our facilities improvements was put in place by Mike McGee and left as a gift for Tanner. Tanner seems to be o with mediocrity. Maybe our fans are too.
Tanner chose the location, completely designed, and did all the grunt work to get Founders Park developed and built. It was designed after Baum, the Arkansas stadium. He even went to Arkansas and met with the Baum architects. This was done while still coaching. Mike McGee reneged on a promise to have a new stadium built, and Tanner was about to accept the job at Texas A&M when Dr. Sorensen intervened and told him to build his stadium.
Yes he did...he based it on Baum. It was well publicized at the time. It was also well publicized that Sorensen ordered the athletic department to get it done. He and a Tanner drove around and Sorensen told Ray to point out where he wanted the park.Sorry my mistake. I meant to reference Eric Hyman, not Mike McGee. My age is showing. Hyman was AD from 2005-2012 and Founders Park opened in 2009. Hyman was internal in getting this done and I really don't think Tanner "designed" the park.
Theoretical question. Had USC dragged it's feet at the time and continued to play at The Sarge, would we still be playing there today with no end in site?Yes he did...he based it on Baum. It was well publicized at the time. It was also well publicized that Sorensen ordered the athletic department to get it done. He and a Tanner drove around and Sorensen told Ray to point out where he wanted the park.
Wish we held into Dan Radkovich. Just like the govt there are plenty of people taking up space in the administration. He was not one of them.Bring Brad Edwards home!!
This is from The State when Tanner was promoted to AD:
"Some said Tanner was Valvano’s "go-fer." Tanner preferred to be called Valvano’s "valet." Tanner fetched sandwiches for Valvano’s lunch, picked up his clothes at the dry cleaners and even ran signed checks to the bank. Valvano loved the service and the person providing it, but when it came time for Esposito to retire, Valvano insisted in the morning meetings that "I’m not hiring a short, fat guy from Benson, North Carolina. I’ve got to hire a big name."
Valvano, then the N.C. State athletics director, finally approached Tanner about leaving baseball and becoming an athletic administrator. The pay and job security was better, but Tanner was 27 years old and wanted to give coaching a chance."