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Recruiting

In Cola for the weekend. Wife and I went out for dinner at Bourbon and way back from dinner we saw 6 SUVs’s on Assembly with Welcome Home flags going to stadium!! Recruiting is in full swing. Just heard fireworks at stadium from condo a little while ago.!!! Go Cocks!!!
 
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This is our future...

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We are loading up on 3 star recruits that's for sure.
Do you base everything on an arbitrary star rating in a COVID-19 year? Makes more sense to see them at camp, meeting them and trying them out, in other words doing your job and evaluating their talent. Would you buy a car based on reviews only or would you like to drive it and evaluate it yourself. I trust the Coach who actually does his job. The previous coach had a good STAR RATING when hired but no coaching talent, we all know how that worked out.
 
Do you base everything on an arbitrary star rating in a COVID-19 year? Makes more sense to see them at camp, meeting them and trying them out, in other words doing your job and evaluating their talent. Would you buy a car based on reviews only or would you like to drive it and evaluate it yourself. I trust the Coach who actually does his job. The previous coach had a good STAR RATING when hired but no coaching talent, we all know how that worked out.
The problem being you have no history of how well Beamer judges talent.

So the question becomes which is more likely? Beamer has a better eye for talent than many established coaches or the players are of three star quality?
 
for some of the negative people on this board, think about it like this. when some of these higher profile players hear about how awesome the ov’s are treated, how much fun they had, those players may say, “hey i’ll take a look, why not?” then they may actually see something they really like. better than not even sniffing us at all. we’ll be getting our share of top end players soon enough.
 
The problem being you have no history of how well Beamer judges talent.

So the question becomes which is more likely? Beamer has a better eye for talent than many established coaches or the players are of three star quality?
“The 2009 recruiting class, which featured Alshon Jeffery, Stephon Gilmore and Devonte Holloman, among others, laid the groundwork for South Carolina’s run of an SEC East title and three straight 11-win seasons. In the 2010 class, Marcus Lattimore headlined. In the 2011 cycle, Beamer’s last as recruiting coordinator, USC inked the No. 1 player in the country- Jadeveon Clowney- for the first time in school history.

Beamer, who arrived prior to the 2007 season and was named recruiting coordinator after 2008, also was instrumental in the hiring of several assistant coaches and served as a sounding board for Spurrier when many of those hires were made.”
 
How is it an uptick over Muschamp? We are going to need quite the finish to match any of the classes we had under Muschamp.

Muschamp started with an up and coming brand at USC. Then he proceeded to damage the hell out if it. Beamer is now having to sell that damaged brand. Prunty is a stud and frankly keeping Gauthier was just as big of a prize recruit. He could have gone about anywhere.
 
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“The 2009 recruiting class, which featured Alshon Jeffery, Stephon Gilmore and Devonte Holloman, among others, laid the groundwork for South Carolina’s run of an SEC East title and three straight 11-win seasons. In the 2010 class, Marcus Lattimore headlined. In the 2011 cycle, Beamer’s last as recruiting coordinator, USC inked the No. 1 player in the country- Jadeveon Clowney- for the first time in school history.

Beamer, who arrived prior to the 2007 season and was named recruiting coordinator after 2008, also was instrumental in the hiring of several assistant coaches and served as a sounding board for Spurrier when many of those hires were made.”
Interesting how you guys keep moving the goalposts. Which one of those guys was a camp evaluation? I seem to recall Alshon, Gilmore, Holloman, Clowney and Lattimore all being highly rated recruits with "arbitrary star ratings."
 
And what did Mustchamp do with all that talent he recruited? I'll take a kid with heart over one with an attitude any day.
This is what people say, but this board absolutely obliterated Collin Hill all year long. If these kids don't perform, you guys will crap all over them and blame them like its their fault the coaches weren't good enough.
 
This is what people say, but this board absolutely obliterated Collin Hill all year long. If these kids don't perform, you guys will crap all over them and blame them like its their fault the coaches weren't good enough.
He had 24 receivers on roster and 1 that could catch the ball. Wasn't for or against Hill. Circle back to Mustchamp got talent, couldn't coach.
 
He had 24 receivers on roster and 1 that could catch the ball. Wasn't for or against Hill. Circle back to Mustchamp got talent, couldn't coach.
I mean you can just search the forum with your username and see posts where you mocked Hill.
 
Interesting how you guys keep moving the goalposts. Which one of those guys was a camp evaluation? I seem to recall Alshon, Gilmore, Holloman, Clowney and Lattimore all being highly rated recruits with "arbitrary star ratings."
each of those teams had less 4*s than clemson bama, uga, uf etc. i’d say he’s pretty good at what he does.
 
Do you honestly not understand the problem with giving all the credit to an assistant coach?
you were implying we don’t know if he can evaluate talent, the numbers and the records for those years tell you, yeah, he may know a little something about it. nothing wrong with some 3*s. we’ll be getting some 4 in the next few weeks. hold your breath for a minute.
 
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you were implying we don’t know if he can evaluate talent, the numbers and the records for those years tell you, yeah, he may know a little something about it. nothing wrong with some 3*s. we’ll be getting some 4 in the next few weeks. hold your breath for a minute.
He “may” is the point you’re ignoring. You’re giving him credit for an entire staff. How much of that was Spurrier and the coordinators? And how much of that was the special teams coach?
 
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Once you get out of top 15 recruiting classes the majority of players signed by each team are 3 stars.

I am not sure why people have not figured this out
 
The problem being you have no history of how well Beamer judges talent.

So the question becomes which is more likely? Beamer has a better eye for talent than many established coaches or the players are of three star quality?
1- we do have a very good idea of how well he judges talent. He recruited the core talent for our best teams in his previous tenure here serving as recruiting coordinator.

2- coaches have no bearing on star rankings, and virtually all of the kids we have had commit to us thus far had multiple offers from coaches at comparable/better programs than our own.

You should really just stop talking at this point- every post you make further illustrates your ignorance and bias.
 
Once you get out of top 15 recruiting classes the majority of players signed by each team are 3 stars.

I am not sure why people have not figured this out
Oh we have figured it out and it's also why those teams aren't competing for championships, whether it be conference or CFP, just saying.
 
Oh we have figured it out and it's also why those teams aren't competing for championships, whether it be conference or CFP, just saying.
who said anything about playing for championships in the next 3-5 years? a rebuild is a process. i’m not worried like some of you guys about talent evals. i trust he knows what’s going on in that department. what noone wants to discuss is how the coaches are and will be performing come kickoff. that’s the biggest of all unknowns.
 
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