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Rumor: Texas and OU to SEC within weeks

I hate this. It’s 2 conferences now…call it what it is. Hearing there will now be 4 - 4 team divisions. I’m guessing that’ll look like:

- Texas
- Oklahoma
- Texas A&M
- Arkansas

- Florida
- Georgia
- South Carolina
- Kentucky

- LSU
- Mississippi State
- Ole Miss
- Missouri

- Alabama
- Auburn
- Tennessee
- Vanderbilt
4 team sec championship playoff?
 
Forgive me if already mentioned, but what ever happened to the "grant of rights"? (I think it was called that)

After the last time expansion happened, conferences started locking in teams by making them agree to giving up rights to TV income or some such thing for a long time, like 10 years, if they ever left the conference.

At the time, it sounded like a pretty solid way of cementing the conferences as they were.

Did that expire, or is the penalty just that small compared to the new super conference income numbers?
 
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4 team sec championship playoff?
No idea how they could decide if, but that would be logical…only if the regular season were shortened and other conferences followed suit. Can’t imagine it with the CFP still in order as you could have 3 teams in contention get knocked out in the conference playoff.

The concept of the 4 divisions is that you’d play everyone more often than if it were 2 - 8 team divisions. In 4 divisions you could play all the teams in your division each year (3 games) and rotate every team another division (4 games). Could even play 1 or 2 on top of that depending on how many conference games they play. If you went to an 11 game all conference schedule at some point, you could play all but 4 teams each season.
 
Eff Missouri. Let's drop them and pick up PSU. Nothing for ACC. :D
Personally I don’t want psu in the acc. They will get notre dame that deal has been done for a while. They are just waiting on the nbc contract to end. That was apparent when they allowed them in the championship last year. I could see them going after Ohio state or Michigan as well.
 
The rumor is that ESPN will help pay the $76 Million buy-out. And, before anyone flips out. It would really be ESPN buying TX and OK from FoxSports. Looked at from that perspective it makes sense for ESPN to pay out that cash.
Not calling you out, but there are so many rumors out right now it's hard to decipher what's real, what's speculation and what's completely made up.
For example, I heard a rumor ( can't stress that word enough) that the ACC would invite PSU and ND. Far fetched ? of course, but at this point I would not discount anything and, nothing would surprise me.
 
Personally I don’t want psu in the acc. They will get notre dame that deal has been done for a while. They are just waiting on the nbc contract to end. That was apparent when they allowed them in the championship last year. I could see them going after Ohio state or Michigan as well.
The research money the B1Gs academic consortium controls and distributes to conference members will prevent ANY B1G team from leaving. It dwarfs any amounts the B1G or the SEC earns from the athletic endeavors of the conferences.
 
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Not calling you out, but there are so many rumors out right now it's hard to decipher what's real, what's speculation and what's completely made up.
For example, I heard a rumor ( can't stress that word enough) that the ACC would invite PSU and ND. Far fetched ? of course, but at this point I would not discount anything and, nothing would surprise me.
Why is it far fetched that the acc would invite notre dame. That’s been in the works for a while. It’s been assumed for a couple years that when the nbc contract runs out they will join the acc. Every other sport notre dame plays competes in the acc I believe. Psu I’m not sure about I agree.
 
Why is it far fetched that the acc would invite notre dame. That’s been in the works for a while. It’s been assumed for a couple years that when the nbc contract runs out they will join the acc. Every other sport notre dame plays competes in the acc I believe. Psu I’m not sure about I agree.
The ACC would love to have UND as a full member. UND is also an associate member of the B1G as of 2017. It would be interesting to see what UND would do.
 
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Both Texas and Oklahoma are widely considered apart of the South
Austin and Norman are 342 miles apart.

Each campus is regarded as being a part of the South.

The media will regard this as a home run for the SEC.

Go Cocks!
 
The best 2 records and if tied go to tie breakers.
From few of the post on this thread, it sounds like that the winner of each pod would be playoff bound. So If you have four super conferences and each pod winner goes to the playoffs, that would make it a 16 team NCAA FBS playoffs.
 
You think we have a hard time getting players now if we leave the SEC might as well join the conference Coastal is in because 3 star players would be our top guys with mostly 2 star guys. I know with good recruiting we can compete Spurrier proved that. Clemson has taken a lot from us they damn sure can’t have our spot in the SEC too.
Yeah, I was sort of trolling.
 
Why is it far fetched that the acc would invite notre dame. That’s been in the works for a while. It’s been assumed for a couple years that when the nbc contract runs out they will join the acc. Every other sport notre dame plays competes in the acc I believe. Psu I’m not sure about I agree.
There is nothing far fetched about the invite to ND. I thought I made it clear that the invite to BOTH ND and PSU on its surface appear to be far fetched.
 
By contract they would have to forfeit all primary and secondary TV rights until 2025. In addition it's reported that the penalty to leave the Big 12 is somewhere in the 76 million per school. Those two factors leave a lot of money on the table.
So the "in weeks" does sound dubious.
Doubt the big12 would ever see a penny. If those two teams leave the big 12 will essentially cease to exist
 
It seems a disturbingly large number of our fan base are really just fans of the SEC.
I look at it this way, Texas and Oklahoma joining the league will increase the annual revenue for each conference member. This extra money could help South Carolina to try and keep up in the facility wars. Also, I have seen multiple times on this forum people complaining about South Carolina scheduling better out of conference teams. Adding these two teams to the conference should increase the conference schedule to have more exciting games. Lastly, I do not see the addition of these two teams hurting South Carolina's recruiting, but perhaps maybe aiding recruiting.
 
I look at it this way, Texas and Oklahoma joining the league will increase the annual revenue for each conference member. This extra money could help South Carolina to try and keep up in the facility wars. Also, I have seen multiple times on this forum people complaining about South Carolina scheduling better out of conference teams. Adding these two teams to the conference should increase the conference schedule to have more exciting games. Lastly, I do not see the addition of these two teams hurting South Carolina's recruiting, but perhaps maybe aiding recruiting.
Agree with everything....except aiding recruiting.
 
All any of this really means is that we're just that much further from ever being able to compete for anything serious. Texas has been trash the last decade, but now that they have the SEC tag, they will pull those recruits they were losing to other Texas teams, LSU, and Alabama. Both of those teams would beat us by double digits easily. I won't stop being a gamecock, but I'll probably start caring even less than I do now, which is virtually zero anyway. Look at the concept of that 4 team SEC playoff and tell me if we could beat any of those teams.
 
All any of this really means is that we're just that much further from ever being able to compete for anything serious. Texas has been trash the last decade, but now that they have the SEC tag, they will pull those recruits they were losing to other Texas teams, LSU, and Alabama. Both of those teams would beat us by double digits easily. I won't stop being a gamecock, but I'll probably start caring even less than I do now, which is virtually zero anyway. Look at the concept of that 4 team SEC playoff and tell me if we could beat any of those teams.
It becomes basically semi-pro which means I will drop my SS membership and increase my giving to the University by that amount.
 
The research money the B1Gs academic consortium controls and distributes to conference members will prevent ANY B1G team from leaving. It dwarfs any amounts the B1G or the SEC earns from the athletic endeavors of the conferences.
I was just going to say this very thing. I don't see any way a B1G program leaves that conference for the ACC. That would seem to be taking several steps down the ladder of success.

If TX and OK do indeed come to the SEC that creates a really serious predicament for all other conferences and independents. That could be enough of a game changer that all previous bets might be off.
 
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Not calling you out, but there are so many rumors out right now it's hard to decipher what's real, what's speculation and what's completely made up.
For example, I heard a rumor ( can't stress that word enough) that the ACC would invite PSU and ND. Far fetched ? of course, but at this point I would not discount anything and, nothing would surprise me.
It's all cool. But, if you look what ESPN could gain by pulling TX and OK from Fox Sports. That would leave FS with a Big12 of little or no value.

Plus, as I had heard it. ESPN wasn't fronting the full $76 Million. Just the parts that TX and OK couldn't cover.

ESPN/Disney has already pushed CBS out of college football. You really think they wouldn't do the same to Fox if given the opportunity?
 
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If Notre Dame were also coming, the money difference would flatten.

How? TV contracts extend out about four years. Do you think, right after the COVID year when almost every school’s athletic dept. lost money, they would chance something like that? It does not seem likely to me. If I am recalling correctly, PSU had wanted in the Big10 for many years before it happened. Seems odd they would suddenly want out.
 
How? TV contracts extend out about four years. Do you think, right after the COVID year when almost every school’s athletic dept. lost money, they would chance something like that? It does not seem likely to me. If I am recalling correctly, PSU had wanted in the Big10 for many years before it happened. Seems odd they would suddenly want out.
Is that rumor regarding Penn State confirmed? If not, we're diddling here. With Notre Dame in the mix, along with Penn State, any subsequent ACC TV deal would be greatly enhanced. I'm not saying that an SEC deal wouldn't be worth more.
 
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How? TV contracts extend out about four years. Do you think, right after the COVID year when almost every school’s athletic dept. lost money, they would chance something like that? It does not seem likely to me. If I am recalling correctly, PSU had wanted in the Big10 for many years before it happened. Seems odd they would suddenly want out.
TV contracts can and do change within the term limits quite frequently, so that in and of itself would not be a deterrent.
So just for arguments sake, IF PSU and ND joined the ACC, I'm sure the ACC would have ESPN come back to the table for talks. They would have the added benefit of the NBC-ND contract as a negotiating tool.
With all this said, it's all speculation.
 
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