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SCDOT says added 2 cents gas tax on July 1st will help raise an estimated $642 million for road paving

The South Carolina road system is a national joke. We are where we are because idiot voters keep voting in trash politicians who are only concerned with lining their own pockets. It would be nice to have decent roads to drive on in this state but it will never happen. Just accept it.
The road beside my house is today better than it has ever been since I lived in my current residence. I moved there in March of 1979.
 
I am as well. I see some projects underway, but the need is great and we are decades behind.
That's the problem sometime ago road maintenance got shut down and the big question from all of us, where the heck did the money go? Our main and secondary roads are a helter skelter mess. One big series of terrible patches. Talk about needing an investigation. Some people are just happy throwing more money from taxpayers into the abyss.
 
That's the problem sometime ago road maintenance got shut down and the big question from all of us, where the heck did the money go? Our main and secondary roads are a helter skelter mess. One big series of terrible patches. Talk about needing an investigation. Some people are just happy throwing more money from taxpayers into the abyss.
This state spends less per mile on our highway system than the majority of other state by some distance. We are sorely lacking in basic road maintenance and people keep voting for a governor who sounds like he is from the 1800's.
 
That's the problem sometime ago road maintenance got shut down and the big question from all of us, where the heck did the money go? Our main and secondary roads are a helter skelter mess. One big series of terrible patches. Talk about needing an investigation. Some people are just happy throwing more money from taxpayers into the abyss.
I'm certain they don't have political issues with roads anyplace else? The truth is that the states that spend the most have the best roads, and I'd venture to say that none of those states tax gasoline as little or less as we have. There's no getting around it
 
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I'm certain they don't have political issues with roads anyplace else? The truth is that the states that spend the most have the best roads, and I'd venture to say that none of those states tax gasoline as little or less as we have. There's no getting around it
Pounding your chest because you pay less taxes while the most depreciable item everyone owns is a vehicle is pretty asinine.
 
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I don't know about you guys, but in my travels outside the state, it's VERY obvious to me how awful our state compares to other states regarding roads, highways, median maintenance, scenic attractiveness and the like. Maybe it should not matter to me one bit. However, as someone born, raised and still living in the state, it's kind of embarrassing. But, that's me.
 
I don't know about you guys, but in my travels outside the state, it's VERY obvious to me how awful our state compares to other states regarding roads, highways, median maintenance, scenic attractiveness and the like. Maybe it should not matter to me one bit. However, as someone born, raised and still living in the state, it's kind of embarrassing. But, that's me.
It's not just you, Bubba.
 
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Dang! Just like everything else the state does, I’m sure it’s low-bid….
There's the problem about American construction in general. I'm a construction estimator. Actually turning in a bid next week involving SCDOT. Many places in Europe and around the world will take the middle bid. That makes you as an estimator do a bid the correct way.
 
Any and all new construction on our 5 interstate systems MUST include the use of toll roads. That is the only fair way to raise the requisite moneys for future construction, repairs, maintenance, and aesthetics along the highways.
 
Yes gladly. For most cars it would be 36 cents or so. Once a week or so. If it went to road repaving only it would be worth it.
It's always just a few cents here, a few dollars there. But they add up. Most people have no idea how much of their income goes to taxes. These taxes almost never get repealed and they're still always looking for another source of revenue to fix the roads. Expect another tax somewhere down the road to fix what this tax failed to.
 
It's always just a few cents here, a few dollars there. But they add up. Most people have no idea how much of their income goes to taxes. These taxes almost never get repealed and they're still always looking for another source of revenue to fix the roads. Expect another tax somewhere down the road to fix what this tax failed to.
Whatever. I see roads getting fixed and I see that many more need to be fixed. Gasoline taxes will go further to address the issue than speculative contention over what the lawmakers do. Or, we could continue near the bottom of revenue collected for roads so we can maintain our captious posturing. I think some people more greatly enjoy that anyway.
 
Whatever. I see roads getting fixed and I see that many more need to be fixed. Gasoline taxes will go further to address the issue than speculative contention over what the lawmakers do. Or, we could continue near the bottom of revenue collected for roads so we can maintain our captious posturing. I think some people more greatly enjoy that anyway.
These clowns couldn't fix a cup of coffee. They'll just need more later.
 
On the flip side, the roads are more than good enough for you to pack your sh!t up and ride out to one of those wonderful states you claim do everything so much better.

I'll gladly keep our roads and our Gub'ner rather than deal with those "wonderful" states with their high taxes, high crime, and overbearing, dictatorial hypocritical politicians that are more worried about pronouns and wokeness and than they are about real issues.
 
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On the flip side, the roads are more than good enough for you to pack your sh!t up and ride out to one of those wonderful states you claim do everything so much better.

I'll gladly keep our roads and our Gub'ner rather than deal with those "wonderful" states with their high taxes, high crime, and overbearing, dictatorial hypocritical politicians that are more worried about pronouns and wokeness and than they are about real issues.
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Make no mistake, they aren't clowns. This is all by design. Follow the money and you'll find the folks involved are criminals.

Well, I assume you have "followed the money" and uncovered their "crimes".

So, just enlighten us. Names of people and the laws that are currently being broken that we aren't aware of.
 
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You've lost weight. Congrats.

But no, really. You should move to the west coast. Just make sure you use those nice roads to get to he stores before 6pm, since they have to close early due to the inability to control their democrats, I'm mean, criminals.
LoL. WTF are you talking about? I'm a libertarian, you are far more "woke" than I'll ever be. You seem comfortable with our state ranking damn near last in any appreciable metric. Congrats, you're a sheep.
 
LoL. WTF are you talking about? I'm a libertarian, you are far more "woke" than I'll ever be. You seem comfortable with our state ranking damn near last in any appreciable metric. Congrats, you're a sheep.

Then why are you here? Amongst the "sheep"? Sorry. I'm not willing to fall for the liberal tax and spend stupidity for "state rankings".

What specific road has your panties in a wad?
 
Nothing says stupid like voting for someone with 0.000% chance of winning. Me picking the lesser of 2 evils is way better than letting someone else picking the lesser of 2 evils while I cancel myself.
It's called integrity. Instead of being a party zealot why don't you try thinking for yourself for once.
 
I misunderstand that most people that claim to be libertarian are really just plain liberals. Or single issue voter potheads.
Fixed it for you. I mean, they are the actual definition of liberal, meaning they're all about individual liberties. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. What liberals have become today have little interest in actual liberty.
 
It's called integrity. Instead of being a party zealot why don't you try thinking for yourself for once.

No, it's called stupidity. Literally throwing your vote away.

If your candidate has 0% chance of winning, you better figure out who best aligns with what you believe and actually has a chance of winning and vote for them. Otherwise, you hurt that candidate and help the candidate that is the furthest from what you want.

And being a Libertarian party zealot is really no different than the other parties. The only thing different is the guaranteed loss in every election.
 
And malfunction junction continues to malfunction for another decade or so.

Do other states have on and off ramps that crisscross?
We do in VA. The intersection of 64 and 95 is legendarily bad because they wanted to force everyone who passed through into the toll booth that isn't even there anymore.
 
It's always just a few cents here, a few dollars there. But they add up. Most people have no idea how much of their income goes to taxes. These taxes almost never get repealed and they're still always looking for another source of revenue to fix the roads. Expect another tax somewhere down the road to fix what this tax failed to.
What’s the alternative?
 
Now the at peak exit…that’s going to be a doozy. A diverging diamond. Google that, or check it out on YouTube. Only 1 other like it in state. Fort mill off I-77 I believe.
We have a few of those here too. I-64 at Zion's Crossroad (exit 136). My wife HATES it.
 
What’s the alternative?
Perhaps they could put the new state tax revenue they're getting on Internet purchases to work for this purpose. I don't know if that's legal without some official procedure to get it earmarked for roads.
 
Perhaps they could put the new state tax revenue they're getting on Internet purchases to work for this purpose. I don't know if that's legal without some official procedure to get it earmarked for roads.
How much revenue are we bringing through this?
 
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