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SCDOT says added 2 cents gas tax on July 1st will help raise an estimated $642 million for road paving

You want an exit ramp at the koon rd bridge? That would be a cluster. Thankfully that is not happening. They will only be replacing the bridge, as they are with all bridges & interchanges between Irmo & little mountain.
Now the at peak exit…that’s going to be a doozy. A diverging diamond. Google that, or check it out on YouTube. Only 1 other like it in state. Fort mill off I-77 I believe.
We have several diverging diamond intersections around Atlanta and they work VERY well.
 
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No, it's called stupidity. Literally throwing your vote away.

If your candidate has 0% chance of winning, you better figure out who best aligns with what you believe and actually has a chance of winning and vote for them. Otherwise, you hurt that candidate and help the candidate that is the furthest from what you want.

And being a Libertarian party zealot is really no different than the other parties. The only thing different is the guaranteed loss in every election.
Nice retort sheep.
 
So like $560 million less than this tax?

Doesn't seem like a reasonable offset
This gas tax won't raise it all at once either. It might not hit the target as more people drive hybrids and electrics or if prices rise to a level that it becomes painful to drive or if there's a recession. Then they'll need more.
 
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Sadly, because people without a brain vote along party lines.

Not really. The main parties are so far apart now that it's pretty black and white outside a handful of candidates. Maybe a few local candidates, but on the state and national level, the choice is pretty clear based on what you believe.

One thing for sure though. Libertarians lose every time.
 
Not really. The main parties are so far apart now that it's pretty black and white outside a handful of candidates. Maybe a few local candidates, but on the state and national level, the choice is pretty clear based on what you believe.

One thing for sure though. Libertarians lose every time.
They aren’t far apart at all. Their only goal is power and the only difference is the lies they will tell and the gullibility of the people who believe them.
 
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Not really. The main parties are so far apart now that it's pretty black and white outside a handful of candidates. Maybe a few local candidates, but on the state and national level, the choice is pretty clear based on what you believe.

One thing for sure though. Libertarians lose every time.
Thank you for making my point for me.
 
They aren’t far apart at all. Their only goal is power and the only difference is the lies they will tell and the gullibility of the people who believe them.

Wrong.

Of course power is the goal, because without power, you can't push your voters agendas. But those agendas have never been further apart.
 
Maybe you had another point, because I certainly didn't make the previous point for you. You can pretty much determine how a politician is going to vote based on the letter beside their name.
Yes, And people will vote for a red or blue candidate regardless of any other qualities. You could run Benito Mussolini against Adolph Hitler and one of them would be running the country with people defending and attacking them from the respective sides. The fact that we've gone so far in partisan politics is absolutely absurd, and will only continue to be so until we change the status quo, or the system collapses under the division. The politicians are that way because the masses want them to be that way. If you think otherwise you may not have a firm grasp on how democratic governments work. And yes, a Representative republic is a form of democratic government. If people, en masse, started rejecting the cartoonishly divided political parties, politicians would follow the lead because they want to get elected and stay in power.
 
Wrong.

Of course power is the goal, because without power, you can't push your voters agendas. But those agendas have never been further apart.
They don’t try to push through voters agenda. They try to push through things to keep themselves in power and get enough TV time to make it sound like they have an agenda but that’s it.
 
They don’t try to push through voters agenda. They try to push through things to keep themselves in power and get enough TV time to make it sound like they have an agenda but that’s it.

That may be true for the politicians you have voted for recently, but it wasn't true for the ones I voted for that got into office.
 
On the flip side, the roads are more than good enough for you to pack your sh!t up and ride out to one of those wonderful states you claim do everything so much better.

I'll gladly keep our roads and our Gub'ner rather than deal with those "wonderful" states with their high taxes, high crime, and overbearing, dictatorial hypocritical politicians that are more worried about pronouns and wokeness and than they are about real issues.
You do realize you can love where you live, and still recognize the poor management to date of the prior tax monies that were supposed to be for road repair/maintenance which leads now to doubting if they will actually do as they say, don't you? Just because we want them to do better with OUR money doesn't mean we hate it here and should leave. The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
Yes, And people will vote for a red or blue candidate regardless of any other qualities. You could run Benito Mussolini against Adolph Hitler and one of them would be running the country with people defending and attacking them from the respective sides. The fact that we've gone so far in partisan politics is absolutely absurd, and will only continue to be so until we change the status quo, or the system collapses under the division. The politicians are that way because the masses want them to be that way. If you think otherwise you may not have a firm grasp on how democratic governments work. And yes, a Representative republic is a form of democratic government. If people, en masse, started rejecting the cartoonishly divided political parties, politicians would follow the lead because they want to get elected and stay in power.
Mussolini and Hitler were both on the left

 
Mussolini and Hitler were both on the left

I know that’s trendy to claim and your source is suspect at best but I would recommend on reading up on both and then making your own decision on where their policies fell. I’d be surprised if you came to the same conclusion.
 
Slap some toll booths on both 95 and 26. Especially 95. Make half the east coast pay for our roads. Seriously.

I’ve been saying that for years especially on 95. Can add 85 to that as well. However, those of us with SC registered vehicles must be exempt. We pay our portion already.
 
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Seems like every time they shut down a section of road to redo it- its still the same when they reopen the road. Like they are just painting over the pot holes and cracks in the road. Some BS is going on. Messed up pavement isn’t the only issue. Downtown Columbia there are lots of overly faded street signs and in some cases missing signs.
 
If we had common sense politically in this country, the two party system would be abolished. Lemmings, such as yourself, lack critical thinking skills for themselves.

Says the "libertarian" that is complaining because we are undertaxed and being outspent by other states governments.

lol
 
You do realize you can love where you live, and still recognize the poor management to date of the prior tax monies that were supposed to be for road repair/maintenance which leads now to doubting if they will actually do as they say, don't you? Just because we want them to do better with OUR money doesn't mean we hate it here and should leave. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Sure, but I also know jackrabbit's politically biased, faux libertarian, unhinged state bashing rant was more than just that.
 
Where did I say we are undertaxed??? Jesus, can you even keep up with the conversation son?

lol. You can't even keep up with your own stupid ideas.

You are complaining that we aren't spending all the money on all these things you think we are last in the nation in compared to other states that spend more.

Where do you think all that extra money you want to spend comes from, "son"?

Let me guess. "Corporations" and "the rich". lol.
 
That's just it though; We're already paying more in taxes/gallon, plus higher/new Highway Dept fees (plus upping the sales tax cap on purchased vehicles). Our roads certainly aren't getting better. Where is that money going/ gone?
Until our government on any level proves to me that they can be good stewards of the tax dollars with which they are entrusted, I refuse to vote for any tax increase of any kind.

I completely supported Gov. McMaster's veto of the bill to increase gas taxes...he was actually for an increase (and I am too if it's ACTUALLY legitimately needed which I doubt) but he said there should be a full audit of DOT first to see what's happened to all the money that was supposed to fix the roads to start with.
Also, it's my understanding that there are superior asphalt products (some that have recycled rubber tire chips in them for example) that could be used BUT I suspect that if this is true that none of the paving companies will offer anything like this since the sooner the cheap asphalt they put down cracks and falls to pieces the sooner they can get another job replacing it
 
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