Seinfeld predicted it...

[HI Cock]

In 1st, US surgeons transplant pig heart into human patient

U.S. doctors have transplanted a pig heart into a patient in a last-ditch effort to save his life — a first for medical science.

apnews.com

 

[Six Million Dollar Man]

Been using pig valves for years but a whole heart...wow!

 

[uscg1984]

That's pretty incredible stuff. If this works well, it seems like this could change everything in cardiology.

Wouldn't it be ironic if a pig heart is what saves us from the effects of a lifetime of eating bacon?

 

[Rhizzlebop]

That's pretty incredible stuff. If this works well, it seems like this could change everything in cardiology.

Wouldn't it be ironic if a pig heart is what saves us from the effects of a lifetime of eating bacon?

I often question whether particular happenings are either ironic or peculiar coincidence. This definitely seems like it falls in the court of irony.

 

[The Coup Nazi]

The doctors let his wife visit him today. The first words he uttered were, “Don’t go bacon my heart.”

 

[bayrooster]

Been using pig valves for years but a whole heart...wow!

I think South Park did an episode about this.

 

[PerchedOnRings]

The doctors let his wife visit him today. The first words he uttered were, “Don’t go bacon my heart.”

“She couldn’t if she fried”.

 

[Creek Snake]

Oink...One of the best episodes with the mohel.

 

[PaleoCock]

That's a great story. Hope it adds quality years to his life.

They should be able to use 3D printed hearts in the near future:
https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2020/11/18-3d-printed-heart.html

 

[vacock#]

Hope it adds quality years to his life.

https://engineering.cmu.edu/news-events/news/2020/11/18-3d-printed-heart.html

I think that is true for all of us.

 

[bayrooster]

I think South Park did an episode about this.

 

[king ward]

Best wishes to the recipient. I wonder how they work things on the donor side.

 

[jedi_mike]

Best wishes to the recipient. I wonder how they work things on the donor side.

Wonder if it’s salt or sugar cured?

 

[king ward]

Wonder if it’s salt or sugar cured?

Smoked.

 

[gr8spur]

“She couldn’t if she fried”.

Y’all are really hamming it up!

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Best wishes to the recipient. I wonder how they work things on the donor side

Don't they have a list?

 

[king ward]

Don't they have a list?

I wonder if they'll just test all the pigs at the slaughterhouse for donor suitability to a particular recipient or if farmers will start having their animals tested and selling hearts (or any other parts that might be implantable) and taking the profits themselves. There will have to be some sort of tissue-type database to make this work on a widespread basis.

 

[JohnnySolo]

Simpsons did it!!!! Simpsons did it!!

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

I wonder if they'll just test all the pigs at the slaughterhouse for donor suitability to a particular recipient or if farmers will start having their animals tested and selling hearts (or any other parts that might be implantable) and taking the profits themselves. There will have to be some sort of tissue-type database to make this work on a widespread basis.

Maybe pigs are like a universal donor. Well, maybe not universal since there are some religions where pigs wouldn't fly. 🙂
But I agree with others that the way of the future will be 3d printed hearts made with your own tissues so no rejection issues.

 

[king ward]

Maybe pigs are like a universal donor. Well, maybe not universal since there are some religious where pigs wouldn't fly. 🙂
But I agree with others that the way of the future will be 3d printed hearts made with your own tissues so no rejection issues.

Now that's visionary.

 

[Neanderthal]

There are some parts of pigs you wouldn’t want. Some parts are crooked.

 

[king ward]

Will this be a problem for Orthodox Jewish people? I'm asking.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Will this be a problem for Orthodox Jewish people? I'm asking.

I think you know.

 

[bayrooster]

I can't imagine this would be considered permanent; pigs have short life spans, so not likely that a pig heart would last more than 5-6 more years under ideal conditions, if it's not rejected. If they are genetically engineering pigs with 30+ year life spans then maybe...

 

[Neanderthal]

That’s a good point.

 

[Scuba_do]

I can't imagine this would be considered permanent; pigs have short life spans, so not likely that a pig heart would last more than 5-6 more years under ideal conditions, if it's not rejected. If they are genetically engineering pigs with 30+ year life spans then maybe...

Pigs have a short life span because we eat them.

 

[king ward]

I think you know.

Well, it wouldn't violate any dietary laws...🤔

 

[leftneck]

Apparently there is some controversy surrounding this since the recipient was found guilty of paralyzing a dude after stabbing him 7 times and then leading the cops on a high speed chase. Paralyzed dude's sister is mad.

But the doctors say a criminal record is no reason to deny someone medical care.

 

[king ward]

Apparently there is some controversy surrounding this since the recipient was found guilty of paralyzing a dude after stabbing him 7 times and then leading the cops on a high speed chase. Paralyzed dude's sister is mad.

But the doctors say a criminal record is no reason to deny someone medical care.

It could be viewed as high-risk medical experimentation on an expendable patient.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

It could be viewed as high-risk medical experimentation on an expendable patient.

We're all expendable patients. That's why it's called practice.

 

[king ward]

We're all expendable patients. That's why it's called practice.

The Greeks have a more precise word for "practice" as it applies here: praxis. Doctors ought to adopt it because it doesn't carry the same connotation. Clever retort, though.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

The Greeks have a more precise word for "practice" as it applies here: praxis. Doctors ought to adopt it because it doesn't carry the same connotation. Clever retort, though.

Ancient Greeks. I think the word means "doing", which is basically the same context as doctors "practicing".

 

[king ward]

Ancient Greeks. I think the word means "doing", which is basically the same context as doctors "practicing".

Regarding the medical experimentation context of the discussion: all medical treatment involves the "practice" of medicine, but not all "practice" of medicine involves experimentation.

 

[PaleoCock]

Science is not a result, but a pursuit. Medicine is a particular science that requires changes of approach with a fluid set of circumstances as they reveal themselves, so it is less a final rendering and more an application of methodology. It's a practiced method, not a final product.

This is why many people are up in arms when a single individual, or a small group of individuals, deems themselves "The Science" and not to be questioned.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Regarding the medical experimentation context of the discussion: all medical treatment involves the "practice" of medicine, but not all "practice" of medicine involves experimentation.

Wouldn't that also apply to praxis?

 

[king ward]

Wouldn't that also apply to praxis?

I think that "praxis" implies mastery of what is being done, an attained proficiency. I see my doctor on the 31st of this month and he won't be practicing on me in the same way I practice golf.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

I think that "praxis" implies mastery of what is being done, an attained proficiency. I see my doctor on the 31st of this month and he won't be practicing on me in the same way I practice golf.

Hope you're not being sized for a pig's heart.

 

[Neanderthal]

“Greeks, praxis, methodology, attained proficiency, fluid set of circumstances.” Deep. So deep I’m gonna move to another thread. Come back to this one when my mind is sharp. It’s Friday night.

 

[king ward]

Hope you're not being sized for a pig's heart.

So far the heart is good. But I'd take one if I needed one and if the prognosis was good. I'm into my 70s. They aren't going to want to give me a human heart.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

I think that "praxis" implies mastery of what is being done, an attained proficiency. I see my doctor on the 31st of this month and he won't be practicing on me in the same way I practice golf.

Guess that rules out mal-praxis.