I am on record....jokes or not....I'm positive we have a many cousins/wives/mom/dads/protectors on here that are only 1 year into Gamecock football because they are coach first/USC second in 100% of their comments.
So Satterfield is the reason we got Spencer Rattler...
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I don't "have" to be right. In this case, I just am. Like I said, I wasn't enamored with the Beamer hire, but once the deal was done, I decided to be fair to him and his staff instead of sitting around like a monkey slinging poop constantly like some here do.
And, like you said, plenty good players came for Muschamp and he didn't work out. That's my entire point. Satterfield hasn't even had the chance to get his players yet and some of these idiots want to fire him. Some even claimed we should fire him now because nobody would want to play for him. Obviously, they were wrong on that point. He should get the chance to prove them wrong on the other. And if he doesn't, we should move on.
says the person that has been on this board for less than one year. ADIOS MIOS!!!!!
Some people just prefer to be fair to our coaches instead of emotionally fragile snowflakes that just want to fire somebody at the first sign of adversity that anyone with a brain knew would be the case considering the circumstances.
I admit to getting a big kick out of some posters accusing others of being emotionally fragile snowflakes. The irony is thick enough to cut with a knife.
To be fair...I didn't want him fired after any adversity occurred...I wanted them all fired (save Lembo and SteppE) immediately after hiring because this job is not a guinea pig job. I know some outsiders think it is....but it is a proud, high level job that demands a stud in the seat.
You're not throwing me off calling me a snowflake...most political affiliations on FGF are pretty transparent based off the way you view the Gamecock football program and debates made. Beamer is a victim, nobody gave him a chance, everything's great/ let's stick our heads in the sand. H#ll....you might actually be slow Joe B.
Keep howling, monkey.
Case in point.
What would he be a victim of? Winning more games in his first year that anybody thought he would? And he doesn't need a chance. He's already got it and performed way better than expected. Like I said, only a few howling internet monkeys feel otherwise, and the rest of the real world outside of their delusional bubble is laughing at them.
And I guess you wanted White fired too? That seems like great idea.
He was a 5* and the #1 QB in the 2019 class. Who am I missing that is higher?
No Gamecock fan in their right mind wants White fired. We had a solid and deep D line, but outside of that he was the coordinator that had very little to work with. He took what he had, coached them up, and exceeded expectations.
On the offensive side, we had the leading SEC rusher, a 4/5 star in Lloyd (nobody saw Z White or JuJu coming) coming back. We had a fairly experienced OL and TE room. Lacking a bit on receivers and QB. Offense could have and SHOULD have been a serviceable unit. IMO Satterfield/the offense didn't meet expectations, stats back that up.
Maybe I'm jaded by what I've seen in the past with Roper and McClendon. Both were kept too long, and neither should have been hired in the first place IMO considering we could have hired Kendall Briles (and other up-and-comer's) when he was available. If that makes me a howling monkey, I guess I am. We've got the money to pay a good OC that has a proven track record, so let's go get one. As I've said a few times here, if Beamer decides to stick with Satterfield, he knows more than I do, so I'll trust him. I just don't want to be at the same spot 2-3 years down the road (like Roper and McClendon) knowing what should have been done a year or two before and wasn't.
I agree. I don't want to see us waste 2-3 years on an OC that pretty much everyone can see isn't the answer. Would rather us take a flyer on a low-level high scoring OC than do another year of this ineptitude.
Especially with Rattler being a one year guy. You gotta take advantage of it when you have him.
I heard he was following Lincoln Riley to USC and ended up on the east coast by accident. Sry that was too good to leave it alone.
Satterfield knows football as an analyst to support the coaches who can take it or leave what he has to input. The problem we see live is on the field from the first game to the last game, no progression in the scheme application by the players on the field. That rest entirely on the OC and the O-Line Coach! Where is it missing? The communication from him to the players. With all the blow up on here, has one player came out publicly to promote the offense? HECK NO! THEY ARE AS FRUSTRATED WITH IT AS WE ARE! Tomorrow is a new day and at 4:00pm today, Beamer has a press conference and could be boding him his farewell then!
That little bit we were lacking at QB (understatement of the year) and receiver (not as much) pretty much destroyed any chance of us have any type of balanced offense. I don't believe for a second anybody would have done much if any better. Maybe even worse. Harris dealt with injuries most of the season. C White had more to work on the Dline that could often cover for the linebackers and secondary. And when they didn't, we saw what happened.
But I think you are undervaluing how important the QB is to the offense. You have to give coaches an opportunity to fix what is wrong, and one year isn't even close to being enough, especially considering the year was far more successful that anticipated. If you can't throw the ball down field, defenses are going to pin their ears back and bring it all night. And if your QB can't make them pay, you are done. And if nobody respects your passing game, you have no chance at a running game.
And Kendall Briles wasn't available when Beamer was hired, so that not really anything to debate. Not that I think we would have done any better without a QB.
Your entire write-up here pretty much is exactly why we need a new OC.
1) We weren't any better overall as an O in those positions last year but we were far and away better because of the OC. We had better pieces around the QB and a better QB, yet were pathetic on O.
2) Part of being a good OC is adapting your offense to your talent, not just continuing to do the same thing even if it won't work.
You think an OC like Elliot, Briles, Riley, etc wouldn't have been able to do more with this offensive talent? What about Malzahn? If you think others could have done more than why are you willing to accept Satt's performance? Stop the excuse making and expect to have a quality offense.
Took the words out of my mouth. We were better with Bobo the year before. Having said that, now I need to go wash my mouth out with bleach.
Ok padawan. I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore.
Well....if nobody is laughing at us now....they surely soon will because we are 10th out of 14th in recruiting in our conference. I appreciate everyone's efforts thus far...and throw in the two kids from OU....we're still 10th out of 14. UNC is ranked signficantly ahead of us. There is a direct correlation from talent to wins, unfortunately. Maybe Beamer and company are mining the h#ll out of the area and finding jewels and value where nobody else has found it in some of these players. I hope so.
Lastly...maybe Beamer is a Victim of Love? I don't know. I don't think White should be fired at this point...no. He shouldn't have been hired, but at this point you just have to ride in the car with the others going over the cliff. The victim stuff was a shot at your political leanings that are not veiled so much.
If he is so great, why was he benched this year and relegated to second string?
Hit the link and there are several good articles. Great Job!!
That doesn’t change the fact he was the top overall QB in the country when he came out of HS in 2019.
His 2020 numbers prior to he being benched were better than what we have seen over the past couple years here though so even if his freshman season was his peak it’s still an improvement.
Dizzy....AND yes he was a top recruit. He can play. Yes he got benched...but they have a DEEP QB room at OU so nothing to sneeze at. But...everyone should temper their expectations a little. I hope he runs an efficient offense, takes care of the ball and keeps us in positive plays/gains. He will NOT throw for 3,500 yards and put up Air Raid numbers (like ALL of the other guys that have run that offense in the last 20 years at OU).....because we are not running that offense. I think he could do well, and god I hope he does. But, we don't need to look at his previous numbers because they can't be compared with....whatever our offense is right now.
I don’t have any expectations that he’s going to shatter passing records but there are some key things you can look at. Last season he completed almost 75% of his passes and averaged about 8 yards per completion. Those are strong numbers and if that’s what we get then everyone should be happy. He also threw 11 TDs with 5 INTs which needs to be improved on but the prior year had 28 and 7 which is a much better ration and even if we see 20 and 5 people should be happy.
My biggest concern is really whether or not we have the weapons and system around him to take advantage of what he can bring.
Right ...that's what I 'm saying. We don't have the weapons and more importantly the system in place for him to duplicate those numbers.
I think we should temper expectations...and if he keeps us in positive plays, keeps us healthy and doesn't make our defense play 2/3 of the clock....he can win legit SEC games with an SEC QB leading us. I'm just glad we have a 100% P5 qb on campus ready to play and not a D-7 guy we're propping up and putting our hopes and dreams behind.
Do you mean about Beamer's connection mattering first? Or do you mean on the fact that I believe Satt is a bad OC?
He starts with Beamer's connection mattering. Again, we shouldn't keep a shitty OC to get a QB recruit.
If it is the second, I believe my experience of coaching makes me as much if not more qualified than a lot of these QB coaches. I hate to break it to you, but most of these private and elite 11 QB coaches just do a bunch of pointless drills and don't know jack about schemes. I have had to correct so many fundamentals and poor QB knowledge with kids that are going to our local elite 11 QB coach. These guys just take their money and lie to them like used car salesmen.
Sorry, High School no longer counts. This is Big Boy football.
I think with the right system, we have enough talent around him to be much better. However, to get the right system, we need to get a new OC.
I saw quite a few missed opportunities for big plays this season. A much better QB makes a huge difference, at least that was the story for the UF win.
LOL. What team were you watching? Either year.
You can "expect" in one hand and crap in the other, and see which one gets full faster. Doesn't change a damn thing on the field. Sometimes it's just jimmys and joes, and not Xs and Os.
Against the teams that we played in common both year, we scored the same numbers of TDs and almost the same number of points. And that was with less talent, not more. Not sure what offense you saw in the field last year, but it wasn't ours.
Took the words out of my mouth. We were better with Bobo the year before. Having said that, now I need to go wash my mouth out with bleach.
Not when it comes to getting in the end zone against the same teams we played both years. Same number of TDs and almost the same amount of points.
If your job is evaluating QBs and you think we have more talent at QB THIS year, you need to find a new job.
Absurdly ridiculous.
We had better TEs and RBs this year. It’s arguable that our WRs as a whole were better this year even though none were as good as Shi Smith. To argue we had less talent is to ignore the facts. Then you bring in the fact we ended the 2020 season with limited numbers due to Covid and played 10 SEC games shows a lack of intellectual honesty. This doesn’t even get into the lack of spring and summer practices and install for 2020 season.
You are the one “hoping” in one hand…and ignoring the reality of what we all saw.
Well, if you still think flooding threads with a meme generator is cool, then the "let me google that for you" link is probably on par.
Was that the story? Or the utter melt down of the UF team?
I personally wouldn't say any of the 3 qbs who played this year were "much better" than the others.
