What would "minor league" players be doing at college when they aren't practicing or playing football? If you aren't on campus to take classes or work you don't have a reason to be there while classes are in session.
Some big time Ohio State players opting out of the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl!!!
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Where did I say that minor league players would be at college? Never made that comment...at all.
Parsed: "...it gives an opportunity for those few players"......."who don't have the academics to go to college and play ball."
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Not sure how they would "go to college and play ball" if they "don't have the academics."
If you meant so they can skip college and still play ball I agree.
Was saying they lack the academics to play ball in college.....much less get into college.
Bama was never this dominant under Bear Bryant. They didn't even have a player win a Heisman until 2009 and now they have a player finish 1st or 2nd every season. What was it last year? 3 out of the top 5 vote getters? It's insane. They play in 2/3 of the "meaningful games", so I guess it's no surprise. Great system. Too bad we didn't get Bama/Clemson VI this year. 🙄
This is the thing, no bowl game has had its status diminished one iota because of the playoffs.
It’s just a generational thing. 20 years ago, players would be absolutely stoked to play in the Rose Bowl with their teammates. It’s something that would have been a treasured memory for the rest of their lives. Now it’s all about “me.” If a player decides that playing in a bowl game doesn’t serve their own perceived best interest, then screw the team.
Some will say it’s to avoid injury ahead of the draft, but it would be an incredibly short list of players whose NFL hopes were dashed bc they were injured in a bowl game. A very, very, very short list.
College was football was such a beautiful sport, but it’s becoming rapidly unrecognizable.
I would not have parsed the sentence the way you did. But we do agree that for those who lack the academic aptitude to enroll/succeed in college, minor league football would be the way to go.
There are rules for solving math equations which lack parentheses. Is there something similar for sentence structure?
Maybe it's akin to the sentence "Help Jack off my horse." which can be understood in more than one way.
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I showed your postings to my wife; she's the grammar maven in the house. She agrees with your meaning.
Academics!? Academics!? We talking about academics!? (Substituted academics for practice.)
Whaz ‘at got to do with colletch? We came to ball!
Whaz ‘at got to do with colletch? We came to ball!
I think that, the harder you have to look, the less of it there is. Or put another way, the more of it you see without looking for it, the greater the incidence of it there is.
Academics.........pretty much has been talked about to make everybody feel good for years. For Power 5 schools, 95% of the players in either major sport, couldn't sniff being admitted to their chosen school, or most any university, on the own academic merit. Then they get to school and have their hand held by a ton of advisors, tutors, that either keep them eligible, or get to graduation in whatever crip major most schools have invented to help athletics (does retail management still exist at USC? That used to be the big one). As far as the opt outs, I think it is time to put some rules in place. The players wanted their cut of the pie, thus we now have the NIL. The players also have open free agency for the drams queens who think they would be a 1st round pick if not for the current staff holding them back. OK. Fine. But since it is now a business, and folks are getting paid, you can't have it both ways. Players should have to sign a contract. If you don't play through the full schedule, no matter the insignificant bowl one may be in, then the player is responsible to pay back his scholarship, and whatever NIL money he has collected. They wanted it to be a business.......this is the other side of business. You get paid, you don't get to just cancel your end of the commitment and keep the goodies
Other than the fact that NIL money can't be linked to pay for play (and the school can have nothing to do with it), I agree with you in theory. Not so sure how it would work out in practice though.
General Studies was generally the default until you picked a major. Always thought it was weird that people can graduate in General Studies.
Anybody remember the vocabulary course back in the 60s and 70s with the “I want a Word” textbook. I needed an elective my senior year so my advisor (forgot her name — great lady in the Business school) put me in the course. I’ll never forget her words: “all of the football players are in the class.” It was actually a great course but good lord my classmates were dumb.
Basket Weaving is tough. I think General Studies is the route for a lot of players. Unless you attend UNCCH and those those “special” courses.
Many choose sport management.
Was it Kyle Martin on the baseball team who had an engineering major?
Was it Kyle Martin on the baseball team who had an engineering major?
I remembered her name: Ada Thomas. I’m sure most Business students remember her from that era.
Or something like Hotel and Restaurant Management; at least it seems to me many female scholarship athletes have. It's actually been a pretty lucrative degree for most, except maybe during this pandemic.
Pasadena is beautiful and an awesome place to visit. I have been to the Rose Parade and Rose Bowl several times. It is a can't miss experience.
Pasadena is indeed beautiful. If I wanted to live in LA and money was not an obstacle, I would give Pasadena serious consideration. But I don't want to live in LA.
Southern California offers many stunning places to live...Pasadena, Santa Monica (I lived there for 10 years), Santa Barbara, Laguna, Manhattan, Newport and Huntington Beaches are just a few. Understand its not everyone's cup of tea but the reality here is that it is the largest state in the nation by far with many folks who love it. And everyone here I am sure understands there are tons of Californians who would never consider living in South Carolina. To each his own and no reason to trash the other.
Maybe because some of us understand and value the meaning of the word commitment. They are quitting on their team.
Do you have the same feelings about coaches that leave on their commitment as well?
I can't speak for anyone else, but it bugs me because if the Rose Bowl isn't good enough, what is? I fear it's just bad for college football.
Fair enough.
But I feel like what makes most uncomfortable with this is because it is a brand new thing for the actual players to have any power in this system at all. Thankfully, that is changing and it will never go back.
Sure do. But the sooner this world learns that everyone is not equal and everything is not fair, the better off we will be. We are talking about players. Coaches have nothing to do with this. Just like because a coach makes millions a player should make something. They are a student/athlete. Not an employee.
This is pretty self-contradictory. You claim to have the same problem with coaches not honoring their own commitments. Then you try to excuse it with the tired old "life's not fair" BS.
It's either OK for both to do it or it's wrong for both to do it.
No I don’t think it’s ok for coaches to do it. However at the same time I can have the opinion that coaches and players are not equal.
Coaches have no choice but to move on with the early signing period. While I feel like it’s not right I understand why they do it. Mainly because the school that is hiring them is not going to allow it. You do what your boss tells you. The players are not affected either way. You could say injury but that could have very well happened the last game of the regular season. Why didn’t they opt out then.
You're right. Until recently, the coaches have had all the power and have made all the riches over the players that helped them get there. Now, the players have a little more say in where and when they play and people are trying to denigrate them for it.
