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Spurrier unsatisfied with offense after scrimmage (link)

CaliCock

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Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.

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Originally posted by CaliCock:
Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.



I agree Cali. We have no proven QB and that is a major liability in our conference, only one proven WR, and an Oline that probably won't be quite as good as last years (which ain't saying a whole lot). Thank you Spurrier for busting your ass to out-recruit the other teams.
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There isn't much reason to think we be in a bowl a game. If you do it's based on nothing but koolaid.
 
It would be so nice to go 9-3 with a win over Clemson but we have a LOT of quick-fixing for that to happen. I think Spurrier rested on his laurels & allowed us to go too far down with Jr. leading the recruiting & calling plays to bring us back that quickly! Hope you're right! I'll be pulling hard but this is a lot to expect after the ball got dropped that badly!!
 
Yeah, I'm a little nervous about this upcoming season too, but I guess

we just don't really know yet what we'll be like. Sure hope our offense can find some firepower and light up the scoreboard. If not, I too think it could be a tough season.

Hoping for the best & pulling for our guys.

Go Cocks!
 
Originally posted by CaliCock:
Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.
Cali, you're smarter than that. Scrimmages are just that, scrimmages. One side will always look bad against the other.

Now, if the offense continues to look bad in every scrimmage, then we have a problem. There should always be a good back and forth in the scrimmages throughout fall or spring camp.
 
Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
I believe the Scar and Nunez will emerge in the fall myself.
How many freshman QBs have come right into Spurrier's system, learned it, and been successful? Hell, we have QBs that have a few years to learn his system and still can't figure it out.

Defensive coordinators have it figured out though. I'm pretty sure it was one of the tater defensive players that said they knew exact what we were going to run by the personnel and formations.
 
Originally posted by NaturalGC7:
Wow...the 5-biggest crybabies posting in the same thread. Imagine that.
They all rent an apartment together and takes turns on the computer down at the county library.
 
Originally posted by Carolina Bo:

Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
I believe the Scar and Nunez will emerge in the fall myself.
How many freshman QBs have come right into Spurrier's system, learned it, and been successful? Hell, we have QBs that have a few years to learn his system and still can't figure it out.

Defensive coordinators have it figured out though. I'm pretty sure it was one of the tater defensive players that said they knew exact what we were going to run by the personnel and formations.
Agree every year it's the same thing. Some freshmen is going to come in and set the world on Fire. Not going to happen.
 
I'm not sure- but I just don't see the wide receiver talent on this team overall- Cooper can't do it all - and a QB with no experience who Spurrier doesn't seem to happy with at all = long year.
 
Originally posted by jimnasium:
Yeah there's no way we can improve in the fall and win more than 5 games.
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Our coach is not ready to hang it up just yet. But he is drinking the Kool aid too if he thinks we will turn this team around in one year. We haven't hit bottom yet. We're still on the downward fall and and we are just trying to slow that fall this year so we can get it in the right direction sooner, maybe by the next year.
 
Originally posted by CaliCock:
Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.
Could be but we haven't been practicing with the starting offensive line and I think that accounts for a lot of the offensive woes. With a healthy line they will play better.
 
Defenses are always ahead in the spring. They aren't scheming or game planning...they just attack the ball.

What I want to know is are we really having more physical practices? SOS admitted we need to. Or was that just a reaction to being blindsided by last year's defense after aTm plowed us?

I hope they're letting em hit. They need to learn how to.
 
Yep. And 6-6 would be a best case scenario. We could just as easily go 5-6.
With a brand new QB and an Oline that will be losing 2 starters from a group
that wasn't all that great last year, I just don't see how anyone thinks we will
suddenly be able to turn things around that quickly. Gonna be a long year.
 
Our QBs should be used to running for their lives, behind that Oline they're have to play behind this spring. Due to injuries on the Oline & with us actually having some D linemen this year. I don't believe we have anymore "power forwards" playing the D end position like we did last year.
 
Originally posted by Rollerdude123:

I'm not sure- but I just don't see the wide receiver talent on this team overall- Cooper can't do it all - and a QB with no experience who Spurrier doesn't seem to happy with at all = long year.
I watched Mitch in high school and thought he would be a very good D1 QB. If we can put an average O line in front of him, I expect him to be far better than this forum's expert whiners predict. Its still a game and all predictions are worthless but I am not nearly as pessimistic as many here and expect a better season than last year. I expect Mitch to be as good as Thompson and with the addition of Hoke, our overall team is better. What the rest of the SEC does is the real determinant of our results.
 
Originally posted by Rollerdude123:

I'm not sure- but I just don't see the wide receiver talent on this team overall- Cooper can't do it all - and a QB with no experience who Spurrier doesn't seem to happy with at all = long year.
I watched Mitch in high school and thought he would be a very good D1 QB. If we can put an average O line in front of him, I expect him to be far better than this forum's expert whiners predict. Its still a game and all predictions are worthless but I am not nearly as pessimistic as many here and expect a better season than last year. I expect Mitch to be as good as Thompson and with the addition of Hoke, our overall team is better. What the rest of the SEC does is the real determinant of our results.
 
Originally posted by CaliCock:
Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.
Spurrier unsatisfied with offense. well, it is his. it is his offense. It is his defense. IT IS his work product. he has every right to be unsatisfied with it, if he chooses.
he might be a little more satisfied with it if he still had a fire in the belly and showed it.
Oh well. We will get a chance to form our own opinions about his work product this fall, but I get the feeling he retired some time ago and just has not formalized it.
Just my humble opinion. of course I have only been a Gamecock since 1949 so I could be wrong.
You all have at it.
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This post was edited on 4/5 2:25 PM by cocknjax
 
Originally posted by sandlapper59:
Originally posted by Rollerdude123:

I'm not sure- but I just don't see the wide receiver talent on this team overall- Cooper can't do it all - and a QB with no experience who Spurrier doesn't seem to happy with at all = long year.
I watched Mitch in high school and thought he would be a very good D1 QB. If we can put an average O line in front of him, I expect him to be far better than this forum's expert whiners predict. Its still a game and all predictions are worthless but I am not nearly as pessimistic as many here and expect a better season than last year. I expect Mitch to be as good as Thompson and with the addition of Hoke, our overall team is better. What the rest of the SEC does is the real determinant of our results.
He's basically Justin Worley. He played in an offensive system that depended on timing routes, not reading the defense like our offense. What he learned to do in HS is basically worthless to him now. Not saying he won't be a good one, but his high school career is not and indicator if he will fail or succeed.

This post was edited on 4/5 2:30 PM by ReadR00ster
 
Originally posted by Cocky kebo57:



Originally posted by CaliCock:
Looks like it's going to be a long season, I predict a modest improvement in defense, a major step back on offense, and a 6-6 final record.





I agree Cali. We have no proven QB and that is a major liability in our conference, only one proven WR, and an Oline that probably won't be quite as good as last years (which ain't saying a whole lot). Thank you Spurrier for busting your ass to out-recruit the other teams.
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Out of curiosity, how many SEC East teams have proven QBs this year? 2?
 
It makes sense that Mitch is holding on to the ball to long. He's never had to improvise or figure out where he is supposed to throw the ball during the play before. In HS he already knew where he was going to throw ball at the snap.
 
Originally posted by jeff2001:


Originally posted by Carolina Bo:


Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
I believe the Scar and Nunez will emerge in the fall myself.
How many freshman QBs have come right into Spurrier's system, learned it, and been successful? Hell, we have QBs that have a few years to learn his system and still can't figure it out.

Defensive coordinators have it figured out though. I'm pretty sure it was one of the tater defensive players that said they knew exact what we were going to run by the personnel and formations.
Agree every year it's the same thing. Some freshmen is going to come in and set the world on Fire. Not going to happen.
Connor Shaw, maybe the most successful Gamecock QB ever, didn't even learn Spurriers system. The plays broke down and Connor used his feet. #nosystemneeded

If we don't have big time talent we need improvision or a hard to defend system. I know everyone hates Uban Meyer and Chad Morris but it's simple in their system for the QBs. Its a one or 2 read and gone system.

I love Spurrier, but lets face it, he doesn't develope NFL QBs.

Might need to worry about "just winning" and put a playbook together for Cooper and let him do his thing.
 
Originally posted by umdterpcock:
Originally posted by jeff2001:


Originally posted by Carolina Bo:


Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
I believe the Scar and Nunez will emerge in the fall myself.
How many freshman QBs have come right into Spurrier's system, learned it, and been successful? Hell, we have QBs that have a few years to learn his system and still can't figure it out.

Defensive coordinators have it figured out though. I'm pretty sure it was one of the tater defensive players that said they knew exact what we were going to run by the personnel and formations.
Agree every year it's the same thing. Some freshmen is going to come in and set the world on Fire. Not going to happen.
Connor Shaw, maybe the most successful Gamecock QB ever, didn't even learn Spurriers system. The plays broke down and Connor used his feet. #nosystemneeded

If we don't have big time talent we need improvision or a hard to defend system. I know everyone hates Uban Meyer and Chad Morris but it's simple in their system for the QBs. Its a one or 2 read and gone system.

I love Spurrier, but lets face it, he doesn't develope NFL QBs.

Might need to worry about "just winning" and put a playbook together for Cooper and let him do his thing.
BS Shaw didn't learn Spurrier's system. The play didn't always break down. If all Shaw's options where covered he would used his mobility to make plays. He was so good at it, eventually that was incorporated into the system.

This post was edited on 4/6 9:29 AM by ReadR00ster
 
Lorenzo Nunez may not be the answer to the question who will play well at QB for USc, but he is likely to be better than the others on the roster because he will be a better fit for the offense than the others who are an "un"fit for the offense or are "unfit" skill wise to play a key role on an SEC team.
 
Originally posted by umdterpcock:


Connor Shaw, maybe the most successful Gamecock QB ever, didn't even learn Spurriers system. The plays broke down and Connor used his feet. #nosystemneeded



After reading that, all I can say is you must have no knowledge of what you were watching during the 20011, 20012, and 20013 seasons.
 
Yeah, probably will be 6-6 or 5-7. No QB that has any experience, stayed with ward too long last year and now he's staying with Elliott. The offensive line has been pitiful under him, of course all of Spurrier's "O" lines have sucked since he's been here. All he's doing is buying time until Jr. gets another job and then he's gone.
 
I guess it's just me, but I'd be more worried if he were satisfied.

A lot of hooplah over a post-scrimmage comment in the spring???
 
One thing that could happen is speed up the play calling and run some no huddle to keep the defense off the QB.
 
Maybe, just MAYBE the DEFENSE is that much BETTER this year...


And IF the DEFENSE is that much better, it will make the OFFENSE better.



I'd rather have a decent offense with an OUTSTANDING defense than the other way around.
 
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