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Tied with Coastal in football recruiting

Let me know how much you want to bet Chadwell is never the head coach at UT.

I’ll go $50 that he’ll be at a major P5 program by the start of 2026 and an additional $50 that it’ll be Tennessee. The biggest factor whether or not it’s TN is Heuppel’s performance. If he goes out and has them competitive for the East every year, naturally that will change things.
 
We are eventually going to really regret passing on Chadwell.

I was listening to tater radio this morning on my drive to work and they were discussing the NIL. That’s going to change the game when you no longer have to recruit underhanded. Then the power will go back to the Xs and Os coaches. So that negates all of the supposed reasons to hire Beamer.
Everyone power5 with a opening passed on him
 
I'm not worried about coastal one bit. They had a good year in a off the wall covid year. They were picked last or next to last in their conference and now yall have them as the next power house. Don't be surprised if they aren't middle of the pack this year. I wish we had played them at the beginning of the season last year when we were healthy. An some of yall crying over Caldwell, well every power5 with a opening could have went after him and no one did, not even his school vandy looked at him.
 
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I'm not worried about coastal one bit. They had a good year in a off the wall covid year. They were picked last or next to last in their conference and now yall have them as the next power house. Don't be surprised if they aren't middle of the pack this year. I wish we had played them at the beginning of the season last year when we were healthy. An some of yall crying over Caldwell, well every power5 with a opening could have went after him and no one did, not even his school vandy looked at him.

This is what I've been thinking as well. Last year was weird. Let's have a normal season and see how things shake out. If Coastal is a 3 or 4 loss team this year, all this will cool off.
 
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"Several of the players Beamer helped recruit from that era have endorsed him as head coach, including former Gamecocks running back Marcus Lattimore and defensive end Melvin Ingram.

Beamer continued to be an effective recruiter at Virginia Tech, Georgia and now with the Sooners. He played a big role in helping the Sooners secure a commitment from 2021 five-star quarterback Caleb Williams."

The article quoted the highly respected head coach at OU, Lincoln Riley.

“He’s got all the characteristics,” Riley said back in 2018 when asked about the possibility of Beamer getting a head coaching job at some point. “I can’t think of a reason in the world why he wouldn’t. I was impressed with the way he recruited. I was impressed with the way his players played. I loved his background, that he had coached so many different positions.”

So two points here. First it wasn't Stephen Garcia who had the most influence on hiring Beamer (I doubt he had any at all), it was a host of former highly respected Gamecock players. Secondly, Riley knew as far back as 2018 that Shane would soon be a quality head coach because he was head coach material.


So I respect what Chadwell did at Coastal but for goodness sake, let's move on. Beamer is a solid hire. Let's see what he can do.
 
"Several of the players Beamer helped recruit from that era have endorsed him as head coach, including former Gamecocks running back Marcus Lattimore and defensive end Melvin Ingram.

Beamer continued to be an effective recruiter at Virginia Tech, Georgia and now with the Sooners. He played a big role in helping the Sooners secure a commitment from 2021 five-star quarterback Caleb Williams."

The article quoted the highly respected head coach at OU, Lincoln Riley.

“He’s got all the characteristics,” Riley said back in 2018 when asked about the possibility of Beamer getting a head coaching job at some point. “I can’t think of a reason in the world why he wouldn’t. I was impressed with the way he recruited. I was impressed with the way his players played. I loved his background, that he had coached so many different positions.”

So two points here. First it wasn't Stephen Garcia who had the most influence on hiring Beamer (I doubt he had any at all), it was a host of former highly respected Gamecock players. Secondly, Riley knew as far back as 2018 that Shane would soon be a quality head coach because he was head coach material.


So I respect what Chadwell did at Coastal but for goodness sake, let's move on. Beamer is a solid hire. Let's see what he can do.
You expect me to listen to Riley over a guy that cant think of a username? Get outta here!
 
Excuse me, Offensive assistant head coach, TE Coach and H back Coach and didnt come with NCAA Violations or suspensions.

Interviewing with us is the closest Chadwell has ever been to a P5 program. No, Beamer has never been a head coach, but he's spent his career at P5 programs and seen how it's done. No way I'm turning the keys over to a guy who's highest level is the Sunbelt. Nope.
 
This is awesome! Especially when you compare our win/loss record from last year.
 
I’ll go $50 that he’ll be at a major P5 program by the start of 2026 and an additional $50 that it’ll be Tennessee. The biggest factor whether or not it’s TN is Heuppel’s performance. If he goes out and has them competitive for the East every year, naturally that will change things.

I wish we were neighbors and I would gladly bet you $1000 and not blink an eye if I lost. Sure this guy may get a power 5 job. But just because UT is his dream job doesn’t mean he is their dream coach. When they were hiring, the talk shows up here pretty much were consensus that he was another Butch Jones. They didn’t want him and it was 20 to 1 with callers. The administration here listens to their fan base.

In reality, you nailed it about their new coach. He will get three years at least (unless he totally bombs). So we are going to have to wait a while to settle up.:) Start saving.
 
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I wish we were neighbors and I would gladly bet you $1000 and not blink an eye if I lost. Sure this guy may get a power 5 job. But just because UT is his dream job doesn’t mean he is their dream coach. When they were hiring, the talk shows up here pretty much were consensus that he was another Butch Jones. They didn’t want him and it was 20 to 1 with callers. The administration here listens to their fan base.

In reality, you nailed it about their new coach. He will get three years at least (unless he totally bombs). So we are going to have to wait a while to settle up.:) Start saving.

he’s going to end up at a major P5 program, there is little doubt about that. Tennessee is the most obvious landing spot. However, for that to happen, certain things of course have to align. Namely, Heuppel has to fail and TN would have to have an opening at the same time that Chadwell is available. Maybe that will happen, or not. Things had to align for Spurrier to go to his dream job in Florida too.

They won 11 last year and have 20 of 22 starters back, so it’s a good bet they will have double digit wins again this year. If that happens, watch how many lists he starts showing up on, nobody what the toothless hillbillies in TN say about him on the radio.
 
he’s going to end up at a major P5 program, there is little doubt about that. Tennessee is the most obvious landing spot. However, for that to happen, certain things of course have to align. Namely, Heuppel has to fail and TN would have to have an opening at the same time that Chadwell is available. Maybe that will happen, or not. Things had to align for Spurrier to go to his dream job in Florida too.

They won 11 last year and have 20 of 22 starters back, so it’s a good bet they will have double digit wins again this year. If that happens, watch how many lists he starts showing up on, nobody what the toothless hillbillies in TN say about him on the radio.

Spurrier was already a power 5 head coach. All coaches are long shots until they are not. Two of the greatest coaches of all time couldn’t cut it in the NFL. I’m not arguing for or against Chadwell as I don’t follow follow him or care what he does. If he is our coach one day, I will care about him. Those toothless hillbillies stopped the Greg Schiano hire. I am not Nostradamus, but I Nostra he won’t head coach UT. So we will see one day I guess. We can continue this discussion in a few years when/if UT is looking for a new coach.
 
Indeed. He was never even seriously rumored for any other jobs. If not for geography, he wouldn't have been rumored here.

I thought UCF would have been the appropriate next step for him. He hasn't done nearly enough to warrant getting a P5 job, but UCF seemed like a good incremental step up for him. But not even they wanted him.
This argument goes WAY out the window when you consider Shane Beamer has not had one season yet. He absolutely would be considered if he wasn't in SC. What other teams last year had that kind of run, with that kind of unique X/O guy anywhere in D1 football WHILST we were in full fledge free fall? It happened that a guy with an unbelievable track record as a Head Coach, and done around these parts, was also still closeby. We know who our coach is. We hope he succeeds beyond all others that have come before him. But I, like many, fully expect to see CC and Chadwell go nuts again and he will be plucked for a D1 job and continue to do what he's proven he can do at every level he's been at.
Side note - since late November- the Beamer pumpers are h$ll bent against a coach's proven track record and resume. It's a weird thing.
 
This is what I've been thinking as well. Last year was weird. Let's have a normal season and see how things shake out. If Coastal is a 3 or 4 loss team this year, all this will cool off.
I suppose Covid didn't exist in Conway, SC area...nor were the players, admin & university affected.
He could lose 3 this year and his win % for year 2 and beyond as a HC would still be 70%.
You clearly don't like successful football coaches OR are a sibling or desk floor aid to Shane Beamer. I just hope Beamer is 50% win percentage after 4 years...it's a big ask - and I hope he accomplishes that.
 
This argument goes WAY out the window when you consider Shane Beamer has not had one season yet. He absolutely would be considered if he wasn't in SC. What other teams last year had that kind of run, with that kind of unique X/O guy anywhere in D1 football WHILST we were in full fledge free fall? It happened that a guy with an unbelievable track record as a Head Coach, and done around these parts, was also still closeby. We know who our coach is. We hope he succeeds beyond all others that have come before him. But I, like many, fully expect to see CC and Chadwell go nuts again and he will be plucked for a D1 job and continue to do what he's proven he can do at every level he's been at.
Side note - since late November- the Beamer pumpers are h$ll bent against a coach's proven track record and resume. It's a weird thing.

What is Chadwell's proven track record? One good season at Coastal?

They would have murdered us...plain and simple. What was BYU's only loss...wasn't it to CC?

Yes, they beat a grossly overrated BYU, who played the likes of Troy, LaTech, UTSA, Texas State, WKU, and North Alabama. Their "signature" win on the season came over Boise State who finished the season 5-2.

right....so 4 wins is equal to or greater than 11?
If those other 3 wins are CSU, Kentucky and Vandy...the answer is "no".

The poster's implication was that Coastal must have been good b/c they beat a highly-ranked BYU. I offered our win over UGA in 2019 merely to refute that notion.
 
And even G5 schools like UCF passed on him.

What is Chadwell's proven track record? One good season at Coastal?



Yes, they beat a grossly overrated BYU, who played the likes of Troy, LaTech, UTSA, Texas State, WKU, and North Alabama. Their "signature" win on the season came over Boise State who finished the season 5-2.



The poster's implication was that Coastal must have been good b/c they beat a highly-ranked BYU. I offered our win over UGA in 2019 merely to refute that notion.
Um, what's Beamer's track record? Assistant Coach journeyman? I think one resume is as good as the other.

In any event, I'm certain Chadwell will get his shot just like Beamer. Then we'll see what he's got.
 
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not sure how closely you followed the hiring process, but Garcia had A LOT to do with the hiring of Beamer.
I do know that he was just 1 of many former players that came out to support Beamer. The players during his 4 years here during Spurrier's coaching years exalted him as a coach, mentor and friend. As a result, I believe Tanner listened to them during the hiring process. That's good enough for me.
 
I do know that he was just 1 of many former players that came out to support Beamer. The players during his 4 years here during Spurrier's coaching years exalted him as a coach, mentor and friend. As a result, I believe Tanner listened to them during the hiring process. That's good enough for me.

Yeah, I don't think Garcia had anything to do with the hiring process. I mean, come on, nobody puts a lot of stock into what Stephen says. I'm sure if he emailed, called or texted, he was given the courtesy of being listened to as a former player, but he was hardly being consulted.
 
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I love how you brag about spending $8 a month on this site like it makes you a big shot. Literally no one cares.
I didn't brag, and you got the figure wrong. It's $9.95/mo. or $99.95/yr. You know nothing about me, big guy. I assure you I am well liked on the paying side. You are a prime example of why people pay over there. I never come to the free-to-anybody side unless somebody posts something in one of my threads or somebody else's. It used to not be that way. I wish they would change it back. As far as I know, you're one of the many Clemson trolls that love to come over here and stir things up. There are also an abundance of young teenagers that use the free forum. I don't know of another SEC school that has a free forum on Rivals. There's a reason for that.
 
In any event, there's no way to tell. Maybe Beamer will be a bust. Maybe Chadwell will be the next Saban. At this point, it's silly to take any definitive position on either one Coaching hires are largely a roll of the dice and there's not much rhyme or reason to which ones are successful and which ones are not. If there was an established formula, every coaching hire would be a home run.
 
Coastal top recruit atm is cracking the top 700 list, not sure why this is a thread
 
I do know that he was just 1 of many former players that came out to support Beamer. The players during his 4 years here during Spurrier's coaching years exalted him as a coach, mentor and friend. As a result, I believe Tanner listened to them during the hiring process. That's good enough for me.
I know another coach that was loved and they exalted under SOS...his name rhymes with Sammy. It didn't work out. I really hope it does this time. 5 years is a short span when you are on the backend. Young folks don't understand this.
 
The truth is, if Chadwell had been hired, most posters would be very supportive of the decision. At this point, let's get behind Beamer, and hope it works out.
 
Well, we know at least 1 P5 team was interested in Beamer. That's one more than was interested in Chadwell.
I wonder if Beamer ever had an offer at any time in the past from any school, at any level, to be their HC. I also wonder if he had ever been offered a coordinator job at any school, at any level, before. I may be wrong, but I suspect the answer to both questions is no. So I'm not inclined to cast any shadows on Chadwell for his resume either.
 
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Only one P5 team was interested in Dabo as HC.
Look, I'm thrilled with the job that Beamer is doing but the rationalization of his hire by pointing out that Dabo had never been a coordinator is apples to oranges. Dabo got a chance to audition as an interim coach and beat USC and he would have never gotten the permanent position without that tryout.

If Beamer had served as interim HC after Mushcamp was booted and performed well there would have been much less skepticism about his hire. It ain't complicated.
 
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