So just because we disagree with the action, you assume we are not fans or never have attended games?
Been to many.
WBB...that is it.
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So just because we disagree with the action, you assume we are not fans or never have attended games?
Been to many.
You and your friends don’t wanna hear it or see it . Some do and support it . Why is that so difficult to comprehend . If you don’t agree don’t buy tickets and don’t watch games or support WBB . If others support their beliefs so be it . It’s America right ??
Yes, it is a business and Dawn, is not only in the business of South Carolina basketball, but basketball as a whole. Sorry, she has to take the players side on this. She can’t take the risk of not appearing to be a players’ coach to please fans that don’t really care about her professional career. For fans to want to put Coach in that position really let me know who the true fans are.
Anybody is free to do as they please on their own time. When on "company" time you show basic levels of respect for the organization, co-workers, customers, shareholders, etc. This is exactly why companies establish codes of conduct and vaguely-worded "professional expectations" in their employee handbooks. You play by the rules or you don't play. As an agent of any organization you represent more than just yourself.
Really not that difficult to grasp.
Exactly my point, einstein. If enuf people say FU to this then it will stop.
So i am just going to throw this out there for discussion. Im not agreeing or disagreeing with it but....
Does the Missouri situation of a few years ago seem like such a far fetched claim now?
Does the Missouri situation of a few years ago seem like such a far fetched claim now?
You don’t know that. You want to imply that because she has made some statements over the summer that you disagree with. Dawn Staley is a basketball coach at the end of the day not the protector of the flag. She can.’the put herself in the position of not being a players’ coach to please some fans that couldn’t give a rip about her. As a Black man, I would do the same thing Dawn is doing and I wish they would stand. If I am a National Championship coach that depends on players to build my career, I am riding with the players and you would just have to fire me if you don’t like it. I can find another job with that type of resume.
So, you’ll crap on your country so that your favorite school can win some ballgames?
However, you are not the boss. She is and she has allowed the protest on company time. The school has already put out a statement in the protest so it doesn’t appear that Coach has an issue with Tanner, Caslen, or the BOT. I guess you have to take that up with them.
I’ve never watched a WBB game in my life ever . However I respect a coach for backing her players . She backed the girls who kneeled and backed the girl who didn’t . That’s leadership . Go or don’t go ... The games are gonna get played and Dawn will be the coach here until she decides to leave or she gets promoted . Like it or don’t like it . I’m not losing 2 seconds of sleep over it either way . I just think it’s kinda dumb to run off the only good thing about this trash dump of an athletic dept because you disagree with her opinion .
While I understand this statement it kind of illustrates the motive is selfish rather than what is right. As a teacher / coach, most would want to speak into this situation and guide the players into the right decision rather than letting the players, 18-22 year olds, dictate what you’ll do. That’s pretty much what good coaches do...help mold the young kids on and off the court.
What we don’t know is what kind of conversations have been had in the locker room. I think most would say Dawn has encouraged it. Based on her comments I’d likely agree their kneeling was at least somewhat encouraged by her leadership. Her players at least knew their coach agreed with their move. I don’t know this for sure, but it does seem likely.
For Dawn, I believe she is doing what she thinks is right. I don’t think she’s just standing behind her players on this one. I think she’s a better coach / leader than that. I definitely disagree with her. And I’ve still haven’t heard what the message truly is that everyone is supposed to hear.
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Well, I would just stand guilty as charged on that. No way I am publicly going against my players. I may talk to them behind the scenes. I may suggest. However, once the decision is made as a team , we are riding together. The only thing I would have done different is to suggest that we don’t come out during the anthem instead of sitting.
That's my biggest beef... them trying to have a 'look at me' moment at a time the focus shouldn't be on them. I wish they'd all opt out.
She’s free to have her opinion and protest on her own free time. Doing it in front of paying fans, on company time, is crossing the line.
I’m good with that. Stay in the locker room. They’re determined to make a spectacle of themselves. Calling for unity while being divisive.
I was being nice about it, but what is molding them to do what is right in this situation. What may seem to be the right thing for you may not be the right thing for me when I am looking at it from an entirely different perspective. Being honest, standing for the flag is something I do, but it is not the end all, be all that it is for some. My opinion is that people fought for our right to protest. So, my only point against the protest would be avoiding unnecessary problems and distractions. Once we got beyond that and they still wanted to protest, our discussion would be about how are we going to do this.
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Whatever the media told them and they might do some alternate research instead of assuming that it's correct.
Well Tanner is a demonstrable idiot and his decisions have set back the athletic department at least a half decade in any sport that matters. So your point is taken but I'd hardly use him as a bellweather for what is "right."
But also to your point Staley ain't the boss. If she didn't work for eunichs the issue of mingling personal / professional interests would have been quietly addressed moons ago. Incredibly stupid to insult half of your consumer base to make some trite point.
But whatever. Welcome to 2020.
You said you think they should stand earlier so that’s what I was alluding to. So in that case I’d think you’d try to have those conversations behind the scenes rather than allow the team to do whatever and then you support them. However, I did read you post afterwards that you said that’s exactly what you’d do. In that case I would agree with you. If you have the conversations and they come out of it convicted, I’m with you on supporting them.
I still don’t believe that’s what happened in this case. I do think there were conversations behind the scenes but everything Dawn has thrown out there seems to indicate she’s more likely to encourage this than not. Again, I disagree with her.
Im fine with protesting, though I believe there are better ways that blatant disrespect to this country. And I do believe it’s disrespect. Those who don’t see it at disrespect are ignorant. As ingorant as the folks who don’t see the issues being protested. Still, protesting should have an end goal or something practical to come of it. I’ve still yet to hear what that is in this situation. I’m being told to listen, but I never hear a message. I know it’s equality but is kneeling going to magically make that happen? What’s next? Conversation? That’s never going to happen when different opinions are not allowed.
Again you are just assuming that all the attendIng fans share your opinions when just as many support her opinion . Why does it matter?? I choose to stand but I also support the rights of those who chose not to . Anybody who throws out the “Disrespecting the flag and the Country” Just doesn’t get it . Nobody died for that flag or that song , they died for the right to have the freedom to make a choice . Do I agree with it ?? Not always, but that’s why this is still the greatest country in the world despite our differences.
I can’t speak for them, but I would presume it is a way of keeping the energy going from the protests of the summer and most importantly voting over the fall. If this is what it takes to get coaches on the stick and making sure kids are registered to vote, then I’m fine with the blowback they will get. They’ll be fine.
Yes, but while you may push standing. I am not. I may suggest, but I am just not into it like you and many others in this conversation. I see and lived all the reasons why they want to protest.
So, if Dawn and the team boarded a plane and the pilots and flight attendants were wearing MAGA hats, do you think they’d just grin and bear it?
Sounds like conservatives were right all along. It was all political. Remember the hell that was caught for suggesting that? This nation was literally held for ransom during this Election year. Do people realize what comes out of their mouths?
You generally see what you want. There are opportunists in every movement. However, there have been many protests that sparked real change. That is why you have a soon to be ex-President that can’t believe that the other side came up with 80 million votes. I hope these kids pay attention to all the lawsuits trying to quell their voice and understand that you can have influence if you choose to use it.
Again, you want me to speak for them. Black people are not a monolith. So, their reason may be entirely different to whatever reasons I may have. I think too many people look for some Black spokesperson to make a movement clear that is taking shape and changing with the times.
I said paying fans, did not say “every” paying fan. You then turn around and said “nobody died for that flag”. So you’re speaking for every single person in our military that died defending this country? Wow, you’re something else.
You hope she leaves? Really?! GTFOH with that BS
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