Barstool is coming for him! Whether that is what he meant or not- gotta love seeing a national brand go after him!
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What time today is the dork resigning?
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Barstool is coming for him! Whether that is what he meant or not- gotta love seeing a national brand go after him!
I hope that NIL will incentive some players to build a local brand. That might slow down the portal activity which is a little too much right now. Not even Dabo knows how this will play out. But he had to open his mouth anyway.
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Now you’re channeling your inner Kingston.
Swing after swing. Miss after miss.
You most def don’t “got it”.
But, you can be amusing!
We will see how it affects them in recruiting. From what I have heard, they are leading for the next generational QB and in on two kids in the top ten right now. Until they start losing recruits and losing on the field, I'm not gonna hold my breath.
Give it time. These athletes may become so hard to coach with their business mentality, and there may be more issues in the locker room that Swinney and other coaches figure they might as well go to the NFL, collect the big paycheck while not recruiting. Who knows what will happen in 4-5 years. I think the game, especially access to the players will change tremendously. You’ll have more access, but it’ll cost you. Probably won’t be getting free autographs and players throwing gloves, wristbands in the stands anymore. But you can probably go to their site to purchase them.
I think CFB had already changed for the worse with all the conference re-alignment a few years back. If this has anywhere near that kind of change due to this and it’ll really ruin the game as we used to know it. It’ll still be huge and make tons of money…but it won’t be the same.
I think CFB had already changed for the worse with all the conference re-alignment a few years back. If this has anywhere near that kind of change due to this and it’ll really ruin the game as we used to know it. It’ll still be huge and make tons of money…but it won’t be the same.
They will all be looking for the best deals. Pandora's box is open. How exciting all of this will be. Dude.
Serious question, will the athletes have access to an “NIL agent” of their choosing? They don’t have time for school, practice, plus managing their own brand.
Yes. They can hire agents I believe and each school is going to have to approve the deals they sign and the implementation of the deals to make sure they align with what the school will allow. For instance I believe so far no school is allowing alcohol endorsements or weed company endorsements (where that is legal)… Our rules state specific restrictions around doing endorsements within football facilities and I believe almost all require the athlete to not wear licensed team gear in their endorsements…
If this is so hard for you, go watch something else. That's also the free market.
Crazy right? Almost like a free market system similar to what every other human is allowed to participate in within our capitalist society. You’d think maybe it was a violation of law to prevent them from doing this. Perhaps the supreme court should rule on it to tell us all what they think these athletes should be allowed to do. 🤔😂
Seriously though- this is not a “choice” or something that can be walked back. The implication by some they should forfeit scholarships if they make money on the side is stupidity. If I get an academic or some other scholarship and get a job on the side or get rich because of my social media accounts or an acting gig while going to school- does/should the school pull my scholi if I continue to produce the grades necessary to retain my scholarship? No! So why is tha NCAA has been allowed to overstep their authority for generations to stop that for athletes? It is really that simple- they cannot violate the rights of these players any longer.
Yep I think the Barstool Sports creator has already signed over a 100 athletes.
Yup.
The crying by some on here is hilarious.
Sort of like the CFP expansion whiners.
Gasp! The purity and sanctity of college athletics is gone! How ever will I adjust? LOL.
Why would a little bit of money from NIL deals make players hard to coach? Players in the NFL, MLB, NBA… Make MILLIONS in contract money and the good ones make as much or more in endorsements and they still have to be coached. Sure, egos become inflated when you are Lebron or one fo these guys with a $200MM deal, but they are still coached. Nobody is expecting NIL deals to pay anywhere close to what those guys are making. (Again, who knows! 🤷♂️)- but I just don’t expect this to be the kind of issue some are painting it to be. If they get a big ego, won’t take coaching or improve their craft, they are only hurting themselves a d their pro potential. Many of these guys come in with extreme egos and sense of entitlement already…
Yes! They are big changes- one thing we should all know though is that the market will work itself out. There are literally BILLIONS at stake here, and thousands of kids each year wanting to participate in college athletics- for the love of the game, the love of their school AND to make money. Nobody is going to let all of that fail, and if the changes become a hinderance to profits and popularity of the sports, you better BELIEVE more changes will be made to try to fix things! There will still be college football (and baseball and basketball..) after this, and for me nothing proposed impacts my anticipation for the season or what I perceive will be my enjoyment of the sport.
One thing I have thought of that may be a surprising outcome- this change could help more players chose to play college baseball! With the limited scholarships, that sport is basically reserved for those who can afford to pay for college (some/most of it) on their own. The “underserved” communities (isn’t that the PC term for poor people now) have very little representation in the sport as the best athletes from those communities tend to gravitate towards MBB or FB where they have a better chance to get a full ride. If a kid is a star baseball player, instead of having to chose another sport for the money, he may now be able to make enough off of his brand through sponsorships and signings and selling wares online… To stay in baseball through college and pay his own way! Just a thought.
Well, I guess we will all see. Some people will continue to be fans and some won't. Certainly the model of college students participating in an amateur athletic extracurricular activity is gone forever. We never knew the old system was bad until some came along and told us it was. Now, it will become a wild money chase. And it will probably come out worse for the college kids than it has for so many professionals, who lose their millions within a few years due to their cash-happiness and poor choices. These college athletes will make money, then lose it, and have no education to fall back on. I hope one day, they will realize that they have been used even more than they are now. And before anybody says "you DO realize you don't have to watch the games, right?", I believe I understand that. And I appreciate those of you willing to listen to opposing opinions on this issue.
Making money outside of their work as a student and athlete does not inhibit their ability to get an education. Many college students have jobs and work their way through school while also participating in time consuming extra activities beyond both being a student and working.. This is not likely to be the kind of financial boost for most kids that is will give them that “set for life”/lottery winner mentality that leads to financial ruin down the road for many who suddenly come into large sums of cash with no knowledge or experience of how to handle money. I feel like this is a rather dramatic take on things… Again- nobody can predict the future but I would be shocked if what you described winds up being a big fallout issue from all of this.
Please explain to me how an individual that left early for the nfl and didn’t graduate is worse off than a player that does the same thing but gets nil while he is in school.
I don't understand your question. Nonetheless , I don't think I can make any predictions or have any explanations at the present time. I just think that there is going to be chaos and a plethora of new problems that's going to take away from the sport, due to the effect of money. I think after a time, we will lose sight of the fact that these are college students, if one can continue to define them as students at all.
It will be interesting.
Not sure why it should be concerning.
No matter the rules, I’m sure Carolina will continue to struggle to break free of mediocrity.
Money isn’t our fundamental/foundational problem.
That is what I care about. Not about the athletes getting theirs, above board.
When you overpay coaches and hand a Muschamp $12M to go away, any argument against allowing players to profit off themselves rings hollow.
But, everything associated with major football (and basketball) is taken to extremes in order to win.
I’m sure this will get taken to extremes by some.
I haven’t read the SC bill and, certainly I have not compared how creative/permissive other bills are in comparison.
But, the genie is out. We’ll see how ridiculous it gets, how it impacts us and how we respond.
Keep in mind. The excuse before by those who love to excuse failure has been “they cheat, we don’t”. It’s soooo unfair. Welp, now we can step up and compete in the light.
It’s no secret NFL guys can be difficult to coach. Spurrier experienced it. Takes a different kind of coach to handle it, which is why (at least one reason) many college coaches haven’t been able to pull it off successfully. This opens the door for some of these kids to partner up with some really big scumbags who are really only interested in cashing in on them in the future. The risk was always there, but now it’s invited. They’ll receive plenty of bad advice in addition to their inflated egos. It won’t be all of them, but if you are going to coach in that kind of environment, why not coach in the same environment with no recruiting?
In the least this will create issues in the locker room. Some more extreme than others. Probably a ton of jealousy and bitterness.
In a free market if you are bitter over someone else’s success you only have yourself to blame! Go do better, make a name for yourself and take it. They will have to learn that lesson like the rest of us… Stars have always been a risk of having their ego get in the way of their development. This may exacerbate that but like it always has been- the ones who let it go to their heads tend to fail at a higher rate and that opens the door for others who are willing to work hard. JMHO
Concerned because of the unknowns. This new way may work out but I see potential for all kinds of complications and problems
True.
I don’t know how you stop it from being a bidding war for top recruits.
I will say this should give us an opportunity to narrow the gap with Clemson. Are we smart enough to use it? Probably not.
But, forget about the bidding wars. Think about the unheralded athletes in smaller sports who will get some benefits that can help them.
Those are stories worth bring told as much as the examples of adult fanatics embarrassing themselves over football and basketball players.
No one cares if some hot soccer players makes a bunch of money on NIL.
All we care about are the big three.
There are vanishingly few authoritarian coaches left in the NFL (Belichick is the only one left to my thinking, along with maybe Tomlin). It’s not a viable model for guys coming up any longer.
Anyway, it’s not NIL alone which is scary for the Dabos of the world - it’s that, and the no-penalty transfer, and the 12 team PO all in conjunction. Literally no question in my mind that this hurts CU.
But, will it really narrow the gap. No matter what the changes in laws and rules, the rich tend to get richer. How is it going to affect schools. Speculate all we want. We don’t know. I see lawsuits galore on the horizon
Yep. When the top execs at the NCAA are pulling seven-figure salaries and P5 coaches/ADs/conference presidents are doing likewise (or damn near) any argument that it's somehow wrong for players to seek compensation just doesn't hold water, IMO.
College sports lost its moral high ground for me when coaches like Swinny started getting paid millions to coach an 'amateur' sport.
The people who say the players shouldn't be able to make money must work for free in their job. Otherwise, they are massive hypocrites. Unpaid work is a mantra of Communism. Lots of comrades in this thread flapping their lips completely ignorant of that fact.
This is terrible. Excuse me while I go research if I can buy stock in these agencies.😊Clemson's QB signed with an agency today. If you're willing to click.
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This NIL has the potential to be financially huge. I can see companies forming with the sole purpose of buying a percentage of a player's NIL income as investors. Honestly, paying the player's has made it possible that major college football could make infinitely more money in the near future.
College football, across the board, is making more, FAR MORE, than ever. Yet, very few schools are operating in the black
I can only speak for myself, but this is my concern. All the talk of fairness, and communism and kids getting free rides complaining about not getting paid is by far a secondary concern.
I worry that some schools will simply buy better teams. That will take a LOT of the enjoyment out for me.
Changes are always hard to manage especially initially. I agree though, there will be challenges- glad it is not my job to manage everything. LOL
I think all schools are doing similar things under the table now. Some more than others, but I think that gap grows with this move. It doesn't close any gaps, it widens them. Imho.
