What time today is the dork resigning?

[Carolina Doc]

The people who say the players shouldn't be able to make money must work for free in their job. Otherwise, they are massive hypocrites. Unpaid work is a mantra of Communism. Lots of comrades in this thread flapping their lips completely ignorant of that fact.

Its not that. Its the fact that since its inception, college athletics are an amateur endeavor. It has been that status that some of us have been defending. If we now want to go pro, then so be it. The NCAA and supreme court can simply announce that college sports will no longer be amateur competition and athletes will become professionals from this point on. They will simply become another professional football league to compete with the NFL for fans, and can drop the pretense of being serious students. Y'all somehow think that amateurism is synonymous with communism, and I would disagree that some of us flapping our lips are ignorant.

 

[mcbear30]

Why do you pretend that's not what's already happening?

Exactly. CU is prime example.

 

[GreatestCock]

Maybe a possible solution is to reduce all power 5 scholarships to 80? Maybe this will help redistribute some talent and UGA will not be able to hoard three 5 star QBs on the bench. 5 players per power 5 school is a significant number.

 

[Lurker123]

Maybe a possible solution is to reduce all power 5 scholarships to 80? Maybe this will help redistribute some talent and UGA will not be able to hoard three 5 star QBs on the bench. 5 players per power 5 school is a significant number.

When we went to 85, it helped. This could help again.

 

[GreatestCock]

Its not that. Its the fact that since its inception, college athletics are an amateur endeavor. It has been that status that some of us have been defending. If we now want to go pro, then so be it. The NCAA and supreme court can simply announce that college sports will no longer be amateur competition and athletes will become professionals from this point on. They will simply become another professional football league to compete with the NFL for fans, and can drop the pretense of being serious students. Y'all somehow think that amateurism is synonymous with communism, and I would disagree that some of us flapping our lips are ignorant.

As long its not the schools paying them, they are still amateurs. Getting compensated for NIL does not change that.

 

[hobcawcreekcock]

All you have to do is put a microphone in front of BLABO, and he’ll talk until he digs himself a hole. He sees one of his advantages being diluted, by athletes benefiting financially from the sport (college football) that pays him $9 MILLION A YEAR to coach.

 

[Boom4life]

As long its not the schools paying them, they are still amateurs. Getting compensated for NIL does not change that.

I wish this was a point that everyone could understand.

 

[Carolina Doc]

As long its not the schools paying them, they are still amateurs. Getting compensated for NIL does not change that.

Technicality and splitting hairs. But I'm sure that sooner or later, direct payments will be coming.

 

[uscwatson21]

I wish this was a point that everyone could understand.

We understand the point you’re trying to make. We just also understand it’s an idiotic argument.

There is a reason you used to literally lose your amateur status if you received sponsorships.

 

[Boom4life]

We understand the point you’re trying to make. We just also understand it’s an idiotic argument.

There is a reason you used to literally lose your amateur status if you received sponsorships.

I sponsor my local high school team. Even put my sign in the stadium. Guess that makes them professionals by those standards.

 

[GreatestCock]

Technicality and splitting hairs. But I'm sure that sooner or later, direct payments will be coming.

I don't see how it's splitting hairs. It's pretty cut and dry.

Shell gasoline once used my photo in a pamphlet and paid me for using the picture. That didn’t make me a professional model nor actor.

 

[GreatestCock]

We understand the point you’re trying to make. We just also understand it’s an idiotic argument.

There is a reason you used to literally lose your amateur status if you received sponsorships.

And it was a stupid, illegal reason, as the Supreme Court just ruled.

 

[Carolina Doc]

And it was a stupid, illegal reason, as the Supreme Court just ruled.

Are there any circumstances where we would want to have/preserve amateurism?

 

[uscwatson21]

I sponsor my local high school team. Even put my sign in the stadium. Guess that makes them professionals by those standards.

Do you give the money to the kids or the school?

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

I sponsor my local high school team. Even put my sign in the stadium. Guess that makes them professionals by those standards.

You sponsor individual athletes in high school?

 

[FORKCOCK]

Money always makes things better, right? What could go wrong?

 

[bayrooster]

As long its not the schools paying them, they are still amateurs. Getting compensated for NIL does not change that.

You could look at the scholarship and all other expenses covered by the school as their base salary, and the NIL payments as commissions. So it's sort of splitting hairs to me. We'll just have to see how it all plays out.

 

[LazyIslander]

You sponsor individual athletes in high school?

Obviously not.
But even if he hired one of those kids to be in a commercial for his company, that would not make them a professional athlete.

 

[LazyIslander]

Olympic athletes have long been able to benefit financially from their notoriety, while maintaining amateur status.... think of being on the cover of a Wheaties box. However, they were still amateur athletes, as they were not paid to compete. They were paid to advertise products.

 

[uscwatson21]

Olympic athletes have long been able to benefit financially from their notoriety, while maintaining amateur status.... think of being on the cover of a Wheaties box. However, they were still amateur athletes, as they were not paid to compete. They were paid to advertise products.

Who is going to let this guy know those athletes aren’t considered amateurs?

 

[Areukidding1]

Shameful seeing some of y'all carrying Dabo's water.

We are waiting Dabo, time to resign. You get $9 million a year and now the players might get a couple bucks. Gotta hang it up now 10

 

[Areukidding1]

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Barstool is coming for him! Whether that is what he meant or not- gotta love seeing a national brand go after him! It’s ok to love it, but you better build a program, just in case.

 

[Boom4life]

Clearly he’s planning on doing that considering he just got approval to add a branding center for the football players. Also that quote is taken out of context. No one mentions the first 2 sentences.

 

[Joelmoo2]

Back it up you goofy lookin' bastard.

Swinney offered the following opinion to the Charleston Post & Courier: “We try to teach our guys, use football to create the opportunities, take advantage of the platform and the brand and the marketing you have available to you. But as far as paying players, professionalizing college athletics, that's where you lose me. I’ll go do something else, because there's enough entitlement in this world as it is.”

So saith the 9 Mill a year coach?

 

[Follyboy 56]

Are there any circumstances where we would want to have/preserve amateurism?

 

[uscwatson21]

Clearly he’s planning on doing that considering he just got approval to add a branding center for the football players. Also that quote is taken out of context. No one mentions the first 2 sentences.

Going down with the ship to defend your coach?

 

[Boom4life]

Going down with the ship to defend your coach?

Not my coach Andy, I’m just not blinded. I see stuff for what it is. I’m not one of these that has to hate or despise everything he says and does.

 

[LBGCOCK]

Back it up you goofy lookin' bastard.

Swinney offered the following opinion to the Charleston Post & Courier: “We try to teach our guys, use football to create the opportunities, take advantage of the platform and the brand and the marketing you have available to you. But as far as paying players, professionalizing college athletics, that's where you lose me. I’ll go do something else, because there's enough entitlement in this world as it is.”

So it’s ok for him to make 9 mil a year on the backs of these “kids”, but they shouldn’t be able to get anything more than what little bit a University and a money hungry organization say they can have?

 

[Boom4life]

So it’s ok for him to make 9 mil a year on the backs of these “kids”, but they shouldn’t be able to get anything more than what little bit a University and a money hungry organization say they can have?

That’s not what he is saying. Nil and paying players to play are 2 totally different things.

 

[chief2791]

That’s not what he is saying. Nil and paying players to play are 2 totally different things.

Nobody else besides Dabo truly knows that was/wasn't what he was saying for sure at the time that he said it, it's all speculation. Sure, the Clemmers are spinning it (just like I knew they would), they have the "out" that it's not the same thing, which is definitely true. But, if I had to bet, gun-to-the-head, on what he meant at the time he said it, I'd go with school paying players and NIL, any kind of payment/compensation to players.

It's not just Carolina fans calling him out. You don't have to look very far outside of these boards to find other media, fanbases, and athletes calling him out.

 

[1SGgamecock]

They could NOT do that. The entire point of the law/rule change is that every individual has the right to their own Name, Image, and Likeness. Most states have banned schools from arranging contracts for individuals. You can't take someone's NIL and then redistribute the proceeds. That would go against both the NCAA rules (read them) and Kavanaugh's opinion in Alston. South Carolina's law expressly prohibits what you just suggested. This is why you're always wrong. Because you don't do your research and just haphazardly guess, while stating it as fact.

If I'm reading this correctly, the U is already finding a work around...the entire roster will get paid.