"Worst Case Scenerio" Preview for Clemson (pretty realistic to me)
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Boring. Taters coming on here. Boring run over to the sad apple and talk to yourself.
Manafold- We'll be fine at OC. It was Morris's system and that stays. And the play-calling was excellent in the bowl game without him.
Our problems on D will not so much be front line talent as lack of depth. Significant injuries will be tough to overcome, particularly at LB and DE. My only starter concern is the third LB but nobody is perfect. DB will be our strength. You get us at the end of the year so injury-wise, we might have a few weak positions.
Offense is the same only crazy good and deep at WR. IF Watson stays healthy, we'll score a boatload of points. Line is serviceable but again, not deep. RB is deep enough and good enough to help out but they were seriously hit by the injury bug last year and could be again.
This year, unless injuries win out, you just don't stack up well enough against our O or present us enough problems with your O..
Our problems on D will not so much be front line talent as lack of depth. Significant injuries will be tough to overcome, particularly at LB and DE. My only starter concern is the third LB but nobody is perfect. DB will be our strength. You get us at the end of the year so injury-wise, we might have a few weak positions.
Offense is the same only crazy good and deep at WR. IF Watson stays healthy, we'll score a boatload of points. Line is serviceable but again, not deep. RB is deep enough and good enough to help out but they were seriously hit by the injury bug last year and could be again.
This year, unless injuries win out, you just don't stack up well enough against our O or present us enough problems with your O..
Typical clemson fan. They win one year in a row and all of a sudden they think they can't lose again.
pbos, We're sorta used to yours, and the "southern writers" bull$hit. Afterall we've about your Heisman
QB's for several years now. What did that get you? Your "Jocky Salesman coach, (Dumbo) will pass
on like Leggit did this year. Maybe by the end of 2015. Speaking of Leggit, why don't you see if he's
got any ice cream bars left to lick. I'll bet you do that well!!!!!
Word is that Battle was kicked off the team and they now have to rely on a true freshman LT to protect Watson. Watson won't get past the Louisville game. Season over.
An old friend knows some people in their AD. She was an assistant coach back in the day and now works high up at IPTAY. I probably should not have been so matter of fact......she said it was a rumor floating around this afternoon today. We shall see.
I wondered about the Co-OC thing as well until it was explained after the move was made. Apparently it is mainly in title to pay both guys enough money to keep them happy so Morris didnt take one or both with him to SMU. The way it has been put out is they prep the game plan together but on game day Tony Elliot is the lone play caller. This was done at the recommendation of Chad Morris because he said Elliot had the better grasp of the offense and the play calling right now. I dont think you see any issues come up with these two guys. They have been friends since the day they enrolled at CU and were roommates their entire college career.
As for play calling being predictable in our last two games I would agree to a certain point. The predictable stuff was working so well there was no reason to do anything else. Why change what was working so well??
That is a rumor going around but nobody at any of the Clemson websites had been able to confirm it. That would be a tough blow for sure. While Hyatt is listed on the depth chart at #2 LT I think you would likely see him flip to right and Gore be moved to LT if in fact Battle is gone from the team.
Its not that I think we can't lose again to yall, its just what that idiot manafold said. He's saying players aren't any good that had a field day against y'all last year. That's like me saying that after y'all beat us the last few years, that Connor shaw was horrible. Or that clowney wasn't good. Just rediculous logic by the village idiot manafold.
Well I guess you know more than every college football analyst in the country, because they are all expecting us to have a very good season.
Which is exactly where we were last year before the season started and you saw how that worked out.
I think what many Carolina fans, like myself, are saying is that whether Clemson wants to admit it or not, they have some very strong question marks on their team as well. First and foremost, new OC's. Yes they did well in the bowl game but so did Lorenzo for us for the bowl game where he first took over AND then for two more seasons. I'm not saying they won't do a good job but it isn't a given. The defense for Clemson lost 8 starters from last year who were very talented and as experienced as they come. Yes the backups from last season who will be starting this year have some experience and played well in spots last year when mixed with some of those former starters. However, we were in the exact same boat last season with our defense and you see how that turned out. Maybe your former backups who are now starters will turn out better than ours did. Maybe they won't. Maybe your schedule will allow for some adjustment time. Either way, that is a lot of new faces to be breaking in all at once and hoping the talent and chemistry are all there from the beginning is still hope and speculation. Your Oline was pretty decent but not great last season and y'all lost, I think, 3 starters off of it (correct me if I'm wrong on that). Plus, if todays rumors turn out true you will lose your best returning OLineman who was also the best Olineman on last years' team. So y'all are going to be breaking in at least 3, possibly 4, new starters on the Offensive line. Also, you have a very good QB who will be coming off a pretty serious knee injury. It still remains to be seen how he will respond. Maybe it doesn't affect him or maybe he turns out like our own A1 (Anthony Wright) did so many years ago, still talented but never quite the same. And it also appears today that y'all have probably lost your PK who sucked out loud against FSU but was very good over the rest of the season and finished as a semifinalist for the Lou Groza award. Once again, I'm not saying y'all can't or won't overcome these things. I'm just pointing out that there are plenty of question marks for Clemson this year to go along with what appears to be a tougher schedule this season. For some reason a lot of Clemson fans on here don't want to acknowledge there are any question marks about your team, just as many Carolina fans on here didn't want to acknowledge about our team last season. However, many of my actual friends who are Clemson fans openly acknowledge those question marks and actually were the ones who pointed them out to me. I guess they don't post on FGF.
Like I said earlier in this post....that is why talking smack about THIS SEASON is pointless. Us USC fans were the ones doing it before the season last year and then Texas A&M exposed us nationally in the first game. We NEVER recovered. No matter how many prognosticators believed in us last year, we still finished 7-6.
I hear what you are saying, and yes we do have some question marks. Our defense is not in the same position as ya'lls defense was last season. We have an all American DB coming back in Alexander, and Stud Safety in Kearse, a stud MLB in Boulware, a stud and also potential 1st Rd DE in Lawson. Two solid DT's in Carlos Watkins & DJ Reader who are Juniors and both have plenty of starts and snaps, Pagano who was a top 150 DT, and 5* Christian Wilkins coming in who should also see plenty of playing time, and a very good DC in Venables. Your defense turned out to be undersized on the ends, could not tackle and just all around soft with a bad DC. Like it or not, we have def out recruited USC on the D-line the past couple of years now and it will show.
I think you are really underestimating how much talent, and size we have coming back.
As for the offense, yes Watson may not be the runner that he once was but he is more of a pocket passer with a cannon for an arm. Along with Stud WR's to throw the ball to. Our weak link, will be the FG Kicker and O-Line. Only time will tell how they turn out.
Its Jay Guillermo that is on some type of personal leave. They expect him back by fall camp I think but no telling what type of shape he will be in.
Alexander for y'all was a Freshman All American. There is a big difference in making the Freshman All-American list and the normal All American list. Generally, freshmen all-american are freshmen that ended up playing a lot (whether they were that good or the team had no better options) and had at least decent to spectacular results. The only normal All-American list that Alexander has been listed on is Athlon's 3rd team PRE-season All-America list. PREseason list are basically pointless and nothing more than conjecture for debate in the offseason. It is the post-season list that matter as they are based on actual performance. So now back to the post-season list Alexander actually made, Freshman All-American, heck, going into last season we also had a Freshman All-American on the defense in LB TJ Holloman and he wasn't even a regular starter and still won't be this upcoming season. Using your logic of Freshman All-American list, all of our LB's then were better than an All-American LBer. This year will be more telling on Alexander. Even though Alexander played 766 snaps last season, he was in on only 22 tackles and had no INT's with 6 pass breakups. Holloman for us in his freshman all-american season at least managed 3 INT's from his LB spot. Alexander may turn into an actual All-American, he may not. As for Kearse, he is a good player with a lot of tackles and decent INT's with 6 in 2 seasons but stud is debatable. It is interesting that with all those numbers, the only recognition award wise or "list" wise he has thus received is a PREseason 3rd team All-ACC selection by Phil Steele prior to last season. Once again, PREseason lists mean jack. It is the post season lists that actually matter. Lawson has done well in his backup role, totaling double digit TFL in his first two seasons but only 7.5 sacks in over 600 total snaps. The TFL numbers are very good but the sack totals are pretty crappy for a "potential 1st Rd DE" in the ACC with that many snaps. I would like to see where you've seen him projected to be a potential 1st rounder. He very well could endup being so but nothing I've ever read besides Clemson fans conjecture propose that. As for your DT's we had multiple interior DT's that had some experience that we figured were "solid" as well. Turns out that was a mistake. As for Pagano and Wilkins, if you're having to depend on true freshmen coming in to sustain a #1 defense, then you have question marks. Heck, having one of the top Juco players in the country in Lamin coming in for DT for us last season was a question mark until he proved himself and it turns out thus far that he hasn't proved himself yet. This is the same reason why Lewis for us is still a question mark. We have high hopes for him, and it seems that he should be a stud and upgrade for us, but until he proves himself, he is still a question mark. And once again, Watson losing some of his mobility could be a huge problem if that OL is indeed not as good as the decent OL of last season. Once again, a legitimate question mark. So once again, all of the question marks in my original post still stand.
As much as I detest thinking about it, Clemson has only two games to worry about. ND and FSU. GT usually just seems to have the MOJO over them in Atlanta. Louisville just flat lost too many contributors to graduation, or pros. Miami? NC State? Please. Talent gap is way too wide. Now if Watson gets hurt that worst case prediction may be valid. But if he is healthy is is just foolish, or dreaming.
Amazing what a Belk Bowl win does for the cult members in Taterville.
Going to be hard fall....
Defense gone..
Special teams gone ...
And relying on a messiah at QB whom has had 4 major injuries in the past 18 months...I just hope that Clemson does not permanently injure the kid rushing him back again....they have been playing with fire for the past 12 months.
Going to be hard fall....
Defense gone..
Special teams gone ...
And relying on a messiah at QB whom has had 4 major injuries in the past 18 months...I just hope that Clemson does not permanently injure the kid rushing him back again....they have been playing with fire for the past 12 months.
so what you are saying is you are in the same boat we was in last year? wanna know how that worked for us?
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