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#1 and #2 in North Carolina: Crouch & Jackson seem to be trending Gamecocks!!

We all know that SE was retained to bridge the gap and retain a shred of continuity from one staff to the next. I don't fault CWM for that - served its purpose. Now, the CR hire..... that one is still a bit of a head scratcher. I had high hopes for him considering a ringing endorsement from Connor freakin Shaw, but it didn't work out.
I think Boom is onto something now. And NOW, the challenge is keeping this staff together.

This is what I think of when I think of Champ's Florida years. Nobody blocking a defender. To be honest, our oline under Roper kind of resembled theirs. (But I saw improvement last year by the end of the season).

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This is what I think of when I think of Champ's Florida years. Nobody blocking a defender. To be honest, our oline under Roper kind of resembled theirs. (But I saw improvement last year by the end of the season).

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Assuming you mean Elliott. Roper didn't coach OL and Wolford coached under Roper last year.

BTW, that UF picture was when Pease was the OC.
 
Assuming you mean Elliott. Roper didn't coach OL and Wolford coached under Roper last year.

BTW, that UF picture was when Pease was the OC.

I think Roper's (and other OCs under Muschamp) have had poor blocking schemes for the Oline and did not involve themselves with the linemen. Disconnect between OC and OL coach. Charlie Weisse had an unstoppable offense - in the backfield - but his Oline was not blocking for the correct plays by the backs. Pease, Weise, Roper doesn't matter. All of them had Olines that did not play together. That was my bigiest hesitation on climbing aboard the Muschamp Express when he was hired.

Everybody sayd Muschamp had QB problems. In fact, he had some good qbs. His Olines never played together.

Muschamp has always been willing to get down and dirty with the Dline, but not as much the Oline. Hopefully, we now have an Oline coach and an OC who will work together, but Muschamp needs to be more involved in OLine play.
 
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I think Roper's (and other OCs under Muschamp) have had poor blocking schemes for the Oline and did not involve themselves with the linemen. Disconnect between OC and OL coach. Charlie Weisse had an unstoppable offense - in the backfield - but his Oline was not blocking for the correct plays by the backs. Pease, Weise, Roper doesn't matter. All of them had Olines that did not play together. That was my bigiest hesitation on climbing aboard the Muschamp Express when he was hired.

Everybody sayd Muschamp had QB problems. In fact, he had some good qbs. His Olines never played together.

Muschamp has always been willing to get down and dirty with the Dline, but not as much the Oline. Hopefully, we now have an Oline coach and an OC who will work together, but Muschamp needs to be more involved in OLine play.
You may be right, but I don't know how an OC can not involve and let an OL coach know what scheme he wants to run. I always thought Elliott's problem was that he learned one style of blocking and didn't have the experience (hadn't been coaching OL long when we hired him) to coach anything else.

Muschamp did bring in a new OL coach when he hired Roper at UF who had a good reputation, but it was too little too late IMO. Don't know who their OL coach was prior to that.
 
You may be right, but I don't know how an OC can not involve and let an OL coach know what scheme he wants to run. I always thought Elliott's problem was that he learned one style of blocking and didn't have the experience (hadn't been coaching OL long when we hired him) to coach anything else.

Muschamp did bring in a new OL coach when he hired Roper at UF who had a good reputation, but it was too little too late IMO. Don't know who their OL coach was prior to that.

Roper's scheme made those line do things they were not recruited to do. Too much pulling for players that were extremely slow footed. They were getting beat to the hole by the back and the play would never have a chance
 
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I don't know about that, but I do know he laid one of the biggest hits in USC history (maybe next to Clowney). There is a certain former safety from Virginia who has an impression of Corey's helmet tatooed on his chest forever. I guarantee you he will never forget Corey Boyd, and neither will I.

I bet the UVA frat boy will not forget the a hit by Boyd either
 
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Roper's scheme made those line do things they were not recruited to do. Too much pulling for players that were extremely slow footed. They were getting beat to the hole by the back and the play would never have a chance
I agree with that. His scheme does/did use a lot of pulling guards and tackles....very much like a pro set.
 
Only going by what SEVERAL players that played with him have told me. Also a couple of coaches.

I see. I had never heard anything like that so thought you were confusing him with someone else. I do remember the one year he sat out, and now that I think about it, I don't think it was injury related. You could be right. We used to tailgate with the parents of several players who were big time for us, and they never mentioned that about Boyd to my recollection (which ain't great these days:)
 
I don't know about that, but I do know he laid one of the biggest hits in USC history (maybe next to Clowney). There is a certain former safety from Virginia who has an impression of Corey's helmet tatooed on his chest forever. I guarantee you he will never forget Corey Boyd, and neither will I.
 
I’m hopeful he becomes a Gamecock.
I’m hopeful he doesn’t end up in Pickens or Rocky Bottom.
Other options I would not be happy but slightly more understanding
 
that's a bit of a superficial assessment... When hiring coaches one must also consider optimizing the recruiting program... BMac is one of the best recruiters in the business as well as a bright young coach... If Boom did not promote him, UT, Jawja and Fla had huge pay raises on the table... Muschamp worked out a terrific scenario to keep McClendon and bring in Warner!! I agree there is a risk... But obviously he has great faith in McClendon...
That's why this felt like a hostage hire to me. Sounds a little harsh, i know. Especially when he does seem to be a fantanstic coach and recruiter. But the underlying sentiment seemed to be that threat that he would be more than happy to coach and recruit against us if he didn't get the OC gig.

I hope he and Werner are a huge success. But as someone else said, Muschamp is basically staking his career on this hire.
 
I have not felt this excited with recruiting since before Spurrier made that comment that he may only have 2 years left or so...we had gotten as high as #3 in recruiting and then he made that dumb comment and the recruits scattered.

Seems like we're back..Hopefully we can rack up in North Carolina.

Crouch--RB from Charlotte
Jackson--DE from Clayton
Clark--DL from New Stanley
Harris--S from Havelock

and possibly Walker and Freshwater from Elizabeth City...

We have to own North Carolina...we are the SEC school of the Carolinas!!

UT with Pruitt is making NC a priority...we have to own NC recruiting...
Just wondering where are you seeing that we are trending for Crouch?
 
Thanks Rouge...when I saw it, it was us 50% and Clemson 50%...with Crouch. UT has come on strong. There was an article written today by a rivals reporter on NC recruiting and he was talking abut what I had already said which is, UT is now making NC a priority again...and there you go, Crouch is now trending 20% UT according to the prognosticators.
 
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I will say this. There are two HS coaches in the area that have DEEP and strong ties to the Charlotte area. Will needs to reach out. Both are USC alums.
Charlotte has been good to us...but let's keep in mind the best of the Charlotte area was on the South Carolina side of the border. Charlotte has become a hotbed in the last couple of years. Florida and Georgia have done better than us in Charlotte. The kids that went to UNC and NC State were not SEC or Clemson caliber at time of recrutiment...even that kid who was a running back who orignally commited to Notre Dame and then UNC, never panned out to greatness...
 
Seem to remember him having a pretty good day vs USC. Hood had a tough college career, seemed like each time he got things going an injury popped up and slowed him back down. I think he is with the Panthers now and wish him the best.

 
That's why this felt like a hostage hire to me. Sounds a little harsh, i know. Especially when he does seem to be a fantanstic coach and recruiter. But the underlying sentiment seemed to be that threat that he would be more than happy to coach and recruit against us if he didn't get the OC gig.

I hope he and Werner are a huge success. But as someone else said, Muschamp is basically staking his career on this hire.

And if he went somewhere else and was a great OC, you'd have said we should have hired this guy and not let him get away. No one can win on this board.
 
And if he went somewhere else and was a great OC, you'd have said we should have hired this guy and not let him get away. No one can win on this board.
You don't know what I would have said. But since you incorrectly assumed you did, I'll tell you:

If he went somewhere and did well and Muschamp made a great hire that brought in a high-scoring and innovative offense, I'd have said it was the right move. If he did well elsewhere and Muschamp's hire gave us more of the same crappy and predictable offense, then I would say the problem is officially Muschamp -- not his OC hires.

Clear enough for you?
 
He's back like cooked crack!
LOL. I remember him saying that. That was a boneheaded thing to say but gave us some good memories as a Gamecock. He also went on to have some decent seasons in the CFL. He made the All-star game 2 or 3 times and rushed for over 1000 yards on 3 occasions.
 
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