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Dabo's success has been based on his commitment to recruiting. He has done a great job at that. He (and Clemson) have done a good job of having him over seeing the program and especially recruiting and hiring top OC and DC. I actually like that plan. My problem with Dabo is that I don't think he is a true coach and I wouldn't have much respect for him as a player. Danny Ford was a real coach imo.
Dabo moved Clemson into the 21st century version of recruiting. Coach Spurrier was 30 years behind in that regard. imo that caused his career to shorten but Coach Spurrier could still call ball plays with the best of them until the end. I think it is a tad harder to "be as effective" in the SEC compared to the ACC.
But Dabo has done very well at Clemson. I'm not sure he could do that just anywhere. But the Clemson situation was pretty much perfect for him. Part of his success was based on the ACC not being as strong of a conference. He and they have only had to play a few tough games a year and they get to spread them out. They have proven that they can play anyone toe to toe for a game but I personally respect a team that goes through the SEC grind a lot more.
I admit that I thought that the ACC was going to become a top conference when FSU and Miami joined but it didn't really happen. They have added Louisville and part time ND and so their schedules do look a lot better and they move up in conference prestige the way I thought they would but you still have a lot of very easy games to put between the hard ones.
With the exception of Alabama and OHio State, Clemson as of right now is a better program than the schools you have listed. You keep failing to understand that coaches at winning programs don't get mentioned for other jobs because they are at winning programs. They just don't up and leave to go somewhere that is equal or in worse shape Thant there current situation. Herman would not leave Houston to come to Carolina because at this moment he is in a better situation. The only high profile HC I heard mentioned for South Carolina opening was Dantoni. Why would he leave what he has now. I also never heard any mention of any other highly regarded HC for South Carolina. They don't leave for lesser programs.
Heres what you are missing, those schools never contacted Dabo to even gauge interest. You got it now? They never wanted him so he never had a chance to say no thanks.
We are talking about the present. You are talking about Dabo and he is only been head coach for a little while. What he has done in that time has put this program in better situations than some of those traditional powers you speak of. Just because a team was dominate 20 years ago doesn't mean anything when we are talking about the present. Penn State was a power but you don't see many people knocking down the door to go there and coach.
He can squash a play if he does not like it. I can pretty much bet he doesn't just go for a jog when it's time put a game plan together.
Why would they because the answer would be no just like they didn't court stoops, Saban, Dantoni, Brian Kelly and whoever else you want to mention. The only reason they got Richt is because he was unemployed. You don't leave for less.
dumbo turned down those jobs....even though they weren't offered to him. LMAO. #clemsuxing
lol. Right, you dont go after the "coach of the year" (yeah right) because you know he will say no. lmao Plenty of coaches are offered even though it would be a long shot to get them. Happens all the time, just not in Clempson
Yeah maybe a 4th and 1 and do they go for it or not and kick a field goal. My cat can do that.
Dabo is in the same boat as those coaches. They may call and ask but you would never know because it not put out in the public. I know you may think he is a clown but there a lot of programs that would love to have him.
I dont think he is a clown, he acts like a clown and there are numerous instances of him doing it on TV.
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I think you are confused. I didn't say anything about coaches at winning programs being mentioned for other jobs. I just noted some of the schools, that are widely considered the most desirable jobs. Clemson is not considered #3. Probably not in the top 10. Only people you would hear that from, are Clemson fans. But obviously, you must be smart enough to realize you are biased.
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"a lot of programs that would love to have him", yet none ever pursue him-? Very strange.
You don't know if any have are not. Most of those never come out that they have been contacted.
I would agree with you on that traditionally CU would not be considered the most desirable job. I can guarantee a lot of programs wish they had what Clemson has right now. Would you say that UT, UF and UM before last year would have been desirable jobs. I could name more but every coach that has came into these places in recent history have failed. I am keeping my whole argument recent. The past and tradition keeps coming up when this is all about what has happened recently. Nebraska used to be a desirable job but it's not anymore.
Thank the Lord fgf has such a great Hall monitor to point out all the Clemson fans and argue with everyone of their posts. You do such a great job logging so many hours doing this, morning noon and night. You must have to clear your schedule everyday because you're always here monitoring the clemson folk. Did you apply for this hall monitor job or did you ask for it like in elementary school? Anyways, you do a great job and keep it up. Nobody monitors the clemson fans like you.
Good grief, take the orange and purple glasses off. Clemson has been at the top of the ACC 1 year in a row, they have a great QB who played out of his mind at the right time last season. Clemson is and should be the favorite to win the ACC this year, but its far from a given they even this year. That great defense of Clemson did give up 40+ points, CU made it close in So don't act like Texas, SoCal, Mich, tOSU, OU, Bama, FSU, LSU are all a step down from Clemson.
Why would Dabo want to leave for any of those, maybe they would expect him not to look like an idiot on the sidelines and know the rules, but that's just a guess. But if and when Bama makes the call, get the search started because he will go home and its the reason he won't entertain other offers. If Bama doesn't call I guess he is Clemson's until he retires or he gets caught. If you been a fan long enough you know the only time Clemson was ever worth a crap they were buying players left and right, no other reason any kid would want to spend 3-4 years there.
Why would Dabo want to leave for any of those, maybe they would expect him not to look like an idiot on the sidelines and know the rules, but that's just a guess. But if and when Bama makes the call, get the search started because he will go home and its the reason he won't entertain other offers. If Bama doesn't call I guess he is Clemson's until he retires or he gets caught. If you been a fan long enough you know the only time Clemson was ever worth a crap they were buying players left and right, no other reason any kid would want to spend 3-4 years there.
Yea I cant believe we would want to pay the HC good money that took us to the National Title game....
Yeah, you guys are the only ones that will. dumbo's on nobody else's radar. You are in the a c c, and all the stars aligned last year, but it wont be that easy every year. Ya'll are clemsux & you'll pull a clemsux eventually. That's what ya'll do.
AL will never call dumbo. If it did happen, they would eat him alive. Do you think Saban acts like dumbo? That golly gee, oh gosh wouldn't work there.
Carolina had plenty of coaches in their radar and y'all had to settle for Muschamp. All the master recruiters y'all have and all they can seem to get is a bunch of diamonds in the rough. It will be tough getting back to yalls "glory days".
To use your rationale, how do you know we had to settle for Muschamp? Do you work for the athletic dept at Carolina?
I would take Muschamp any day over the cheerleader idiot dumbo.
You account for plenty of posts to keep it going. With your clemsux loving self.
Thanks! I"m sure you'll keep those almost 28,000 posts going on different threads.
You would have that many if you kept your name Cockytop2.
I had hip surgery so I have plenty of time on my hands to keep it going. I used to just read the threads but I am bored.
I don't care which number he was, I'd take him over your clown of a coach, dumbo.
Haha. Idk who they are, but funny you'd think that. I knew you couldn't "stop right now". Maybe you could go nuts in small talk and hit that 28K mark tonight? Or post more messages about how great clemsux is...
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I have no problem with Dabo being called a "CEO" type coach. Or that other schools seem to have little interest in hiring him. He is very good a what he does. He is a VERY good CEO Coach. He has put the pieces together and has done very well. And from everything I see the team and the program seem to be getting even better. I think a CEO coach maybe the coach of the future.
It is the coach of the future even Saban has changed his ratios in the last few years.
That's funny, it's partly because you somehow won 5 in a row that helped create what Clemson has become.
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