Ha. The Culture... It doesn't look like it comes natural to him at all.
I wonder if Ray and the board had this type of thing as a line item with the hire?
They watched Dabo turn these antics into success for many years.
That is not a problem as long as the team is winning. Recruits enjoy it, etc.
It doesn't start to look bad until the winning stops.
We do have seemingly a lot of injuries but the teams you mentioned have deep benches we don't.I like positivity too, but I'm also getting tired of the worn out excuse of injuries. Everybody we play has injuries. Some have more injuries than we do. Most of the top teams like OSU, UGA, FSU, etc have more injuries than we do. We're not losing because of injuries. We are losing because we have a poor team at this point. There were few injuries to start the season, and we lost to UNC and they were without their top 2 receivers. It's no excuse at this level.
I'd say "match up" is the most overused excuse made by fans. You know, hey, "we don't match up well with Alabama". That usually means the other team has a lot more talent and you're about to get smoked."Injuries" is the most overused EXCUSE WORD in the history of sports. Certainly, a more appropo phrase would be 'lack of depth'. Division 1 NCAA teams are allowed 85 SCHOLARSHIP players and up to 125 on the active roster. Let's just use 40 Offensive players, 40 Defensive players, and the 5 specialists aren't included.
That's 20 skill players & 20 Hog Mollies on EACH SIDE of the ball ... on scholarship.
I have to ask ... what the hell are the second and third team players??? Leaches? Parasites just living the good life on scholarship? Obviously Not!!! Your 2nd team should be almost as good as your starters and your 3rd teamers understand that they ain't gonna play but, be ready for 'your one-shot chance'.... Don't Miss It!!!
So, are we just pissing away recruiting $$$ on players who seriously, really don't care? Or are we not coaching a team and just catering to a few Prima Donna's?
Until a "Next Man Up" attitude is established, you don't have a team, you have an ensemble. Morrison understood this. So did Spurrier and Holtz. You muffed a punt, you were no longer a returner. You drop an easy pass, no more targets this week. Your Hurt, Don't Play!!! .... NEXT MAN UP!!!
Again, that is no excuse. We are in year 3 of this staff. If UNC can beat us handily without their 2 top receivers, we should be able to play with a few injuries. I don't think UNC has any deeper bench than we do, nor Mizzou, nor Florida, nor Kentucky. The problem isn't not having a deep bench. We have just as many scholarships as any other school. The problem is having poor evaluations of talent, and not developing players.We do have seemingly a lot of injuries but the teams you mentioned have deep benches we don't.
That is not a problem as long as the team is winning. Recruits enjoy it, etc.
It doesn't start to look bad until the winning stops.
We do have seemingly a lot of injuries but the teams you mentioned have deep benches we don't.
Again, that is no excuse. We are in year 3 of this staff. If UNC can beat us handily without their 2 top receivers, we should be able to play with a few injuries. I don't think UNC has any deeper bench than we do, nor Mizzou, nor Florida, nor Kentucky. The problem isn't not having a deep bench. We have just as many scholarships as any other school. The problem is having poor evaluations of talent, and not developing players.
If fans get their feelings hurt over that, they have the very same thin skin that they are accusing the coach of. .....and he is right, you know. Most fans don't know what it's like in a locker room. They usually just have opinions about it.The problem is he could have defended the celebration without attacking the fans.
Well UNFORTUNATELY it looks bad!!That is not a problem as long as the team is winning. Recruits enjoy it, etc.
It doesn't start to look bad until the winning stops.
Oh for crying out loud, we were playing in the state of NC and they opened as a 1.5 point favorite. That's basically even. They beat us 31-17 and it wasn't even close.Beamer is 1-1 versus UNC. We're not going to beat them every time.
In addition, UNC has been pulling in Top 10 recruiting classes. They have better talent top to bottom.
We were just coming off a strong close to last season and were underdogs to UNC on a neutral field to start the season.
Oh for crying out loud, we were playing in the state of NC and they opened as a 1.5 point favorite. That's basically even. They beat us 31-17 and it wasn't even close.
And they have not had ANY top 10 classes in the last 5 years. The best they had was #11 in 2022. In 2019 they were #31.
Please quit just making up sh!t.
Oh for crying out loud, we were playing in the state of NC and they opened as a 1.5 point favorite. That's basically even. They beat us 31-17 and it wasn't even close.
And they have not had ANY top 10 classes in the last 5 years. The best they had was #11 in 2022. In 2019 they were #31.
Please quit just making up sh!t.
You know, I was told about all those "top ten" classes too, but never bothered to look them up. Once I did, (247 rankings) I also saw that they had a total of 0 top ten classes. I only went back to 2018 though.
I wonder where the notion of all these classes came from.
Edit: Also, per the "talent composite" site, we both had two 5 stars, and UNC had thirty 4 stars while we had twenty four. That doesn't seem like much of a talent gap.
When he disagrees with you? 🙂Lurker - When did you turn into Lacky?
I was being light hearted. Do you know what a sock account is? It's a second account that allows a poster to agree with themselves.Ha. Sock accounts.
I was being light hearted. Do you know what a sock account is? It's a second account that allows a poster to agree with themselves.
Outside of POSSIBLY Fowl and Dee I really don't smell any over here. My favorite hockey forum has several.Yep.
Outside of POSSIBLY Fowl and Dee I really don't smell any over here. My favorite hockey forum has several.
When he disagrees with you? 🙂
I don't want to get between you two 🙂Interesting that corroborating facts just brings out personal insults.
I just made the initial mistake of thinking Ward was being sincere in his debate. Fool me once, etc.
That's why I said possibly. Thing is, socks are usually careful about changing styles and vocabulary. We only find out they're socks when they invariably forget which account they're logged on to lol.I actually don't believe Fowl and Dave are. Their writing styles and overall themes are different.
There's also not much back patting, answering for each other, and/or showing up out of nowhere like a pack of dogs when they have a poster they don't agree with.
I don't want to get between you two 🙂
I munched my popcorn watching you and GoCocks have at it. I might need to get some more now. 🙂
On the other site "serious" discussions are only possible in a PM 🙂Ha, there is no between in this case.
I was in the mood for serious discussion. Maybe if I get in the mood for just making crap up to pass the time.
The other? That's always entertaining.
Ha, there is no between in this case.
I was in the mood for serious discussion. Maybe if I get in the mood for just making crap up to pass the time.
The other? That's always entertaining.
If fans get their feelings hurt over that, they have the very same thin skin that they are accusing the coach of. .....and he is right, you know. Most fans don't know what it's like in a locker room. They usually just have opinions about it.
You're still wrong. That's getting to be a habit with you. The 11th place was ONE FRIGGING YEAR, and that was 2022. In 2020 & 21 they were 14th and in 2019 they were 31st. 2018 & 2019 we finished ahead of them, so they haven't out recruited us consistently - according to the rankings that you so heavily believe in.Sorry genius. Top 11.
They've out recruited us consistently.
You're still wrong. That's getting to be a habit with you. The 11th place was ONE FRIGGING YEAR, and that was 2022. In 2020 & 21 they were 14th and in 2019 they were 31st. 2018 & 2019 we finished ahead of them, so they haven't out recruited us consistently - according to the rankings that you so heavily believe in.
The average recruiting rank over the 4-year period leading into the game was as follows:
+ UNC: 17th
+ USC: 35th
And Mack Brown has been there since 2019.
"But, But....We're supposed to beat UNC every time. They are in the ACC for God sakes."
This went about as well as your NIL angle.
Our average is ruined by one gigantic outlier. Why do you always argue in such bad faith?
You're really working that bad faith line.
Riddle me this, why wouldn't 2021 be relevant if your talking about talent coming into a game?
If you want to argue in bad faith, remove 2021 and do it again. UNC is still up.
I am beginning to think he really just can't help himself. He makes wild statements with scant backup as though they are facts. He lies. And he contradicts himself. He's also incompetent at math it seems.Our average is ruined by one gigantic outlier. Why do you always argue in such bad faith?
The better question is why you think Beamer should be the HC if we can only win when he has the talent advantage?
Maybe consider he beat UNC, #5 UT, Clemson and several others with more talent?
So why is it unfair to expect him to beat teams with more talent this year?
Yet another LIE. You do realize we played UNC the FIRST game of the year, don't you? We didn't have many injuries then. UNC had as many or more than we did. You're just disingenuous.We're going to have our ups and downs. We're not going to beat UNC each time we play them.
We've had key injuries. The UF game was the one that got away.