I didn't really follow your thought process. (open invitation to zing me, I know) Clemdent said FSU won all 3 of their titles while in the ACC. So I can see where the confusion is. Yes, they won all 3 of their titles while in the ACC. Clemdent is obviously a tiger fan and I like him. He's alright. I'm not sure if he realizes that he kinda made all of our points about the ACC. FSU didn't win it all until they joined the ACC. Easier road to the championship. No question about it. On the other hand, I do think the old man was right in the end. (the old man, not me) I don't understand what the SEC has to do with it? I'm sorry, I don't follow.