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Not needing the money does not mean one does not still want the money.PJ's family appears to have been a bit money hungry. I've heard some suggest they didn't need the money but it appears that wasn't the case.
True dat. Good point.Not needing the money does not mean one does not still want the money.
Or still accept it.Not needing the money does not mean one does not still want the money.
I really don't think it will have any impact. Do you really think Duke, KY, UNC etc. are going to struggle because of this? UNC has had a cloud over their head for what seems like 10 years. They continued to recruit at a high level. Frank will have no problems recruiting his 2-4 star guys out of foreign countries.Whether or not we have been found to actually have violated NCAA rules could take anywhere from 1-2 years. And even if we are found innocent of any and all charges, having an ongoing investigation is sure to have adverse effects during recruiting periods
I really don't think it will have any impact. Do you really think Duke, KY, UNC etc. are going to struggle because of this? UNC has had a cloud over their head for what seems like 10 years. They continued to recruit at a high level. Frank will have no problems recruiting his 2-4 star guys out of foreign countries.
The NCAA knew his parents took money (before this recent report). Don't know why this would change Bowen's status. The reason he was going to get a 2nd chance is because he personally didn't take money. From everything I read, this is still the case.The only negative is this probably closes the books on Bowen ever playing college basketball.
I really don't think it will have any impact. Do you really think Duke, KY, UNC etc. are going to struggle because of this? UNC has had a cloud over their head for what seems like 10 years. They continued to recruit at a high level. Frank will have no problems recruiting his 2-4 star guys out of foreign countries.
Are you suggesting everyone on this list will be ineligible for the balance of their college careers? I just don't see that happening.Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see him ever playing in college,would be very surprised. Maybe I'm just a glass half empty kind of guy. As far as the final four run, no way they can take that back. That would force them to do something to the "blue bloods".
- Current South Carolina player Brian Bowen, who was ensnared in the initial federal investigation and started his career at Louisville last fall until the school withheld him from competition. His father, Brian Sr., also received money, according to the documents. (Dawkins’ expense reports also list more than $1,500 in plane tickets for Bowen, his father and his mother. He and his family received at least $7,000 in benefits, according to the documents.)
The NCAA knew his parents took money (before this recent report). Don't know why this would change Bowen's status. The reason he was going to get a 2nd chance is because he personally didn't take money. From everything I read, this is still the case.
So you believe everyone on the list will be banned from playing college basketball going forward or are they just going to single-out Bowen? Not being a smart-ass. I don't have the answer to this question but I find it hard to believe the entire list will be banned. I could very well be wrong.We dont know if he took money, or if he knew his Dad took money, but i would be stunned if he every played college basketball
I'm not naive to believe they're not others that took money as H.S. recruits that weren't named in the release today..
..........and i dont blame the players, if you can get , take it. the Universities, TV networks, NCAA , have taken advantage of the players that make everyone else rich for to long
So you believe everyone on the list will be banned from playing college basketball going forward or are they just going to single-out Bowen? Not being a smart-ass. I don't have the answer to this question but I find it hard to believe the entire list will be banned. I could very well be wrong.
It will be interesting. You have several big schools (Duke, KY, MSU) that have stars at risk. Several of these teams are in the top 10. It will be an interesting weekend. Does Duke etc. hold these players out?I'll repost what i said in another post, since many posters are starting different threads on the same subject:
So glad to see this.....you get what you deserve.
Stars who play for free ( and don't give me this "they get a free education") who have the cameras on them, who perform at a high level for the financial benefit of others such as Universities, coaches , organizations, TV networks , etc.
...and people are shocked at this...........give me a break.
and this is the tip of the iceberg
i love it!!
It will be interesting. You have several big schools (Duke, KY, MSU) that have stars at risk. Several of these teams are in the top 10. It will be an interesting weekend. Does Duke etc. hold these players out?
Are you suggesting everyone on this list will be ineligible for the balance of their college careers? I just don't see that happening.
This is not an NCAA issue....yet. This is still the FBI investigation in corruption in college basketball...and this is only one agent's expense report from one agency.Do you gents realize publishing statements in an article is not proof of anything? Allegations are just that...NCAA does not have subpoena power... It could be years before anything is settled in court.. If there are plea bargains, there is very little if anything the NCAA can stand own
The NCAA could ignore it all or make any one who received payments ineligible. There really isn't any in-between on this. If they go with the latter, there will be a lot of games forfeited over the past 2/3 years.So you believe everyone on the list will be banned from playing college basketball going forward or are they just going to single-out Bowen? Not being a smart-ass. I don't have the answer to this question but I find it hard to believe the entire list will be banned. I could very well be wrong.
The NCAA could ignore it all or make any one who received payments ineligible. There really isn't any in-between on this. If they go with the latter, there will be a lot of games forfeited over the past 2/3 years.
As I said in a previous post...not an NCAA issue...yet. But it is one that I don't think they can ignore...the information the FBI is just starting to uncover is too bad.This is a FBI issue...this isnt ending well for the parties involved
It really is sickening the way Clemson will cheat in all sports
Wasn't it Tarkanian that said something similar to: "The NCAA is gonna be so mad at Kentucky that they're gonna penalize Cleveland State twice."
This is what'll happen to us. We'll be the Cleveland St.
The quote you referenced about sums up the NCAA. I'm not sure what Dozier did or didn't get, but I caught the tail end of a sports talk show in Knoxville this morning and I swear I thought I heard the guy say something like $115. I thought this can't be right. $115 wouldn't even land you on the radar (with that said, team moms baking cookies will get you sanctions so I guess anything is possible). Anyone know how much PJ supposedly took?
I wouldn't think the FBIThis is a FBI issue...this isnt ending well for the parties involved
Glad this (players getting paid) only occurs in basketball. No way football players are getting paid!You know I think College sports has gotten to the point where the Universities make so much money that the players are going to have to paid to a certain extent. I realize they get a free education but when the Universities make over 50 million just in football off the players something got to give. I'm not sure what the answer is but it will only get worse. Too many scum agency's out there and there isn't a lot of young kids out there that wouldn't take the money. This isn't new and has been going on since the Wooden days.
I wouldn't think the FBI
Glad this (players getting paid) only occurs in basketball. No way football players are getting paid!
This is a FBI investigation...not SEC. Big difference.Do you gents realize publishing statements in an article is not proof of anything? Allegations are just that...NCAA does not have subpoena power... It could be years before anything is settled in court.. If there are plea bargains, there is very little if anything the NCAA can stand own
If this is true then we have finally found something we suck at worse than basketball. If this is as good as we can be then we really suck at cheating.It really is sickening the way Clemson will cheat in all sports
It really is sickening the way Clemson will cheat in all sports