Collin Hill picked up by Cincinnati
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You were apparently one of the ones metaphorically picketing because He displaced RH. Your assessment is inaccurate.
I swear we have the prissiest, most hateful fanbase in college football.
He "performed" well enough. If one is still sitting around thinking Hill was our problem last season its likely because of said crush on Hilinski. Geez.
He was apart of the problem of having a very ineffective passing game, probably the worst in the modern era for USC
lol, he was just about the worst QB in the conference statistically. Was he rhe WORST part about the team? No. But that doesn’t mean he was good. He would not have sniffed a starting or probably even backup spot at any other SEC program outside of Vandy.
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You mean the part where we had the most drops in a season any of us ever witnessed or the part where the receivers could never seem to get open.
They got open plenty he just stared down one receiver see: LSU game.
he wasn’t good.
Also we had less drops with Doty, watch colin hills passes they were off target and wiggled
Watch Colin early in the season when he was throwing very accurately. He regressed later in the season and it's easy to understand why. It's hard to keep it together when no one outside of Shi could catch a pass and your Oline is bad. Tom Brady would have struggled completing passes last year.
I'm a Doty fan but in all honesty he wasn't very effective either outside of a few spurts. He could at least run for his life with all the oline break downs.
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Right. I mean people argue “well the receivers sucked so that means the qb was great.”
They we’re all bad.
We had a quarterback who could not throw throwing the ball to receivers who could not catch.
I agree with your assessment. Against teams with first class pursuit speed, Doty was neutralized. Pretty bad OL blocking, IMHO.
Doty was neutralized once teams knew he would start, they had film after the Missouri half and could prepare for him.
He was successful against Missouri after replacing a surprisingly ineffective Collin Hill
and Missouri not having game planned for him.But Doty was a freshman and that is why you play young players, to get some experience and come back better, not that Will Muschamp believed in that sort of stuff.
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I agree, he struggled as the season progressed. Our receivers couldn’t catch Covid if they’d wandered around Wuhan maskless, and our OL couldn’t block.
Most of his haters seem to be focused on his connection to Bobo, and beating RH out for the starting position. No one seems to hate Doty because he was elevated to second string while RH slid to third.
Truth is, mechanically he was pretty solid. Had good size, good arm strength, but was cursed with having multiple knee surgeries that limited his mobility. The previous staff ignored him, if they’d shown interest he likely would’ve signed here from the beginning.
Lots of college QB’s never get an UDFA shot, there’s simply not enough roster spots to go around. The fact he did get an invite shows that NFL coaches saw something you and others didn’t.
If Doty plays like he did as a true freshman when he is a 5th year senior, he would be subject to more criticism.
Hill played worse as the season progressed which was disappointing for a 5th year Senior who had been in the Bobo system for many years.
The other forum has a poster that broke down a lot of colin hills faults, they are a lot not than you realize.
he was abysmal from beyond 15 yards and really bad once he went past his second receiver.
he also missed ALOT of big plays by not leading receivers or even throwing behind them
he was abysmal from beyond 15 yards and really bad once he went past his second receiver.
he also missed ALOT of big plays by not leading receivers or even throwing behind them
Right. The pro-Collin crowd always compare him as a 5th year senior to true freshmen. Here’s your sign.
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Impossible to be a good QB behind a soft ass, skirt wearing O line and stone handed receivers.
He especially made our defense look bad. Like Bentley did too amirite. But Hilinski though.
Sheesh.
I dunno, I’m not comparing Collin to others. He was objectively garbage.
One thing I’ll say for the kid, though, he was much better in his NFL stint than he was here.
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I don’t look at “the other forum”, so I have no idea what someone else posted about Hill’s faults. And quite honestly, they may or may not have any idea what they’re talking about.
What I saw was a guy that started pretty strong mechanically, then regressed as the season went on, the receivers kept dropping passes, and the OL acted like turnstiles. Was he pressing trying to make something good happened? I’m sure.
If he was worse than abysmal, as you think, then why would an NFL team offer him an UDFA contract? Obviously they saw something that you and “the guy from the other forum” didn’t see.
You know who ended up with the UDFA contract? The QB from Vandy. He was not good.
but go on about how you remember things when someone else has actually put on the film and broke down all his issues. I would bet he put in more work than the Bengals offering a rookie camp spot to a guy that was never really ever going to make the team.
There are more QB’s that DON’T get contract offers than do.
You think NFL teams just toss out contract offers like Halloween candy? Most college players at ANY position dont get a contract offer. The ones that do obviously show something to teams that they believe can help them.
Try putting aside the hate for Hill. Appears you’re still crushed that Hilinski slid to third on the depth chart.
I’m crushed we won two games with a transfer qb that was forced down our throats
regardless he is not on their roster so if you are trying to use a tweet to signify he wasn’t garbage last year then idk he was bad literally the worst in the league
He wasn’t “forced down our throats”. He won the starting position.
The guy you’re a fanboy of slipped to third string. Now he’s transferred elsewhere, and looks to be second string there. Don’t get me wrong, I like RH. I think he was thrown into the fire too early, then felt entitled to the position. But the simple fact is he was beaten out on the depth chart by two guys.
The NFL isn’t a charity. They don’t give UDFA contracts to everyone. Yes, he struggled here. So did the OL, WR’s, and the defense. Yet, someone in the NFL looked beyond that, and saw something they liked.
You just love to argue when you’re wrong. Quite bizarre, actually.
Big pick up for Bengals! I see him having a 3-4 year career in the nfl.
Safer pick than than that fruit cake the Jaguars got.
Safer pick than than that fruit cake the Jaguars got.
All this thread does is make me sad for the upcoming season....
"Hill was most terrible QB in modern era"
"It wasn't Hill it was the dropped passes - they couldn't catch a cold!"
"It wasn't the WRs it was the OL Hill was scared of being slaughtered on every pass play"
Thanks guys......
"Hill was most terrible QB in modern era"
"It wasn't Hill it was the dropped passes - they couldn't catch a cold!"
"It wasn't the WRs it was the OL Hill was scared of being slaughtered on every pass play"
Thanks guys......
RH was basically told he would start vs ole miss but didn’t show up to practice. The only reason he isn’t still here is because he though Bobo would stay and by the time he was pushed out, it was too late for Beamer.
You are also kidding yourself if you think Doty was a better QB than RH was last year.
Remember? Here’s what I remember; use the MO game as an example....
First drive 4th down Harris drops a swing right on the numbers that would have been an uncontested first down.
SC next possession third down Hill throws a perfect back shoulder ball to 81 which sails past because 81 isn’t looking.
Our next possession third down they bring a corner blitz, Harris actually dodges him to get in his little swing pattern, and we take a sack on a huge hit. The savvy immediately throw shade at Hill, “immobile.” Sheesh; Spider-Man himself wouldn’t have gotten out of that. I actually admire Hill for the hits he took last year without even changing the expression on his face. My kind of guy.
Now if you want to critique, our o-line...damn. You don’t even have to exaggerate.
I remember that defensively, we had no answer for a wheel route; aTM saw it and finally grew bored running it, Ole Miss abused us with it, and there it was, wide open again against MO.
But yeah; let’s “remember” Hill.
You don't need to add anything at this part. "Just proves how inept Muschamp's staff was"
Being a Gamecock fan is not for the faint of heart. "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
There are a lot of amateur athletes that are 1 good coach away from being a ball player. Not all paid coaches know what they are doing.
I didn’t get this info from this site cause I’m not an insider here but someone close to the team told this to me and it is basically what it is said. He was told he would be starting and he did not show up for the next day of practice.
The back shoulder throw was maybe early that’s why he wasn’t looking for it because hill had timing issues with every wr
he took a bunch of sacks that game with obvious blitzes - if he was such a savant in that offense why didn’t he switch possessions?
3rd and 18, what does he throw? A 6 yard dunk
He was not good
I still can't fathom how any parent would be clueless enough to let Will Muschump anywhere within 100 miles of their star QB kid.
Hopefully he will have a big enough role at GA to screw their team up too.
Hopefully he will have a big enough role at GA to screw their team up too.
What would have been the reason for that? I have to admit, it doesn't make much sense.
Basically as a “screw you” there have been other rumors too but those I can’t get a good feel for (conflicting information)
someone who is good friends with someone on the team said that RH felt slighted by Bobo
