Id go with the old 80/20 rule.
I would also go with the general thought that educators with more conservative viewpoints are more likely to realize that their personal ideals should not permeate their teachings.
Has anyone pulled their kids out of public school
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Id go with the old 80/20 rule.
I would also go with the general thought that educators with more conservative viewpoints are more likely to realize that their personal ideals should not permeate their teachings.
Okay, I could go with that. I read the responses as saying people pulling their kids out now must be doing it for the same reasons (racial). My mistake.
Some occupations lean right, and some lean left. Education is overwhelmingly liberal. Are you oblivious to this fact?
And thats a whole different topic
Plenty of non-woke folks are being canceled by their employers or not being hired. Its usually out of fear of retribution rather than dislike of the ideals.
I just googled it and found plenty of examples.
Parents furious over school’s plan to teach gender spectrum, fluidity
One of the nation’s largest public school systems is preparing to include gender identity to its classroom curriculum, including lessons on gender fluidity – the idea that there’s no such thing as boys or girls.
But that's foxnews, so it'll be dismissed.
The second link was more liberal, so it must be fake or something.
Teaching About Gender Identity
Introduction Gender Identity is a complicated topic. One that is often misunderstood and confusing to many people. Educating students about it is extremely beneficial because this time we are living…
educators4sc.org
But I don't think you were really being serious with that question anyway.
I’ll give you the second part about conservatives keeping their thoughts private. That probably had something to do with the polling in the election of 2016, where a lot of Trump voters didn’t speak to the media or say they were voting for Trump. Sorry to drag Trump into this but I am validating your point.
I doubt it’s 80/20 in SC. Maybe in Orangeburg or parts of Charleston. Outside of that you’d be hard pressed to find many places in SC that you could even get an 80/20 split.
In general I don’t think it’s a good idea for your employer to know your political beliefs. They have a company and a brand. If an employee is so adamant about their politics that it’s known within the company, it could make for a difficult if not impossible work environment.
I’m not saying not to care about politics, but when you decide to share that openly at work that’s a big roll of the dice to assume others feel the same way.
I guess I am. I’m also oblivious to the ones that are overwhelmingly conservative. Let me know what they are.
Funny…years ago like in the 80s and 90s we use to talk politics all the time and no one lost their mind or got punched. Now you get fired or disowned depending who you vote for. I wonder what changed🤔.
You speaking of the education field when you say the 80/20 rule or all employees in all fields?
I think you would be surprised if you think that there isnt an overwhelmingly large proportion of all educators, even in SC, that are left leaning to put it mildly
Imho, partial blame falls on the parties themselves. In order to truly split the electorate, they weren't content to let people disagree. They had to make people truly hate the other side. Eliminates the chances of compromise or not voting straight parry.
Throw in the 24 hour media screaming Hitler or communist every 5 seconds, and I see why things have degraded.
I’m not sure. I assume there are some conservative leaning occupations. Military I know is one, maybe some others. Law enforcement possibly. I don’t follow those as closely as education.
You are correct, it never has been a good idea to run around wearing your political views on your forehead.
In the past, however, it generally didnt get you fired or follow you around to the next job opportunity. People may have disagreed with each other and it likely has held some back from advancement.
Nowadays some people's entire life can be canceled because of their political views or worse yet one statement taken completely out of context
The hate is unreal.
The retribution over ones opinion can be relentless
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exactly, when you hear the term 'indoctrination' and wonder why people keep claiming this is happening, is because they are doing it without anyone realize they are doing it...after having a long talk with my granddaughter who just graduated, i have no doubt that they have instilled a far left liberalist view in her head and it makes me sick. she most certainly wasnt raised that way.. they do not even realize it is happening which if im not mistaken, that is exactly what indoctrination is
absolutely, very little of the crap they teach now is gonna help them be successful in life considering how most families both parents work, they should be taught things they used to be taught at home along with what you said above
I’m apprehensive it comes to teaching finances to mainstream students. I think there are some social pitfalls there. I need to explore this thought more. Granted, I do teach it to my students, but at a very basic level.
They are rarely getting the basics now so good for you. Its not like they are needing to know how to defer capital gains tax. That comes with the foundation and basic understanding and confidence.
pull mine out in the 90s when she was about to go to middle school. Back then, and maybe now, middle school was when the drugs were getting started. I wanted her to be a little older before exposing her to that. Put her in a Christian school and after 2 years I gave her the option to go back to public school. She never did go back.
We follow state standards. For my students basic financial management is a major part of the math curriculum. My students are not mainstream, rather they are adapted. I can spend a month on counting dimes. For mainstream stidents, though, how long does it take to teach them to balance a checkbook and add sales tax?
“Pay as you go, if you can’t pay don’t go”
Teacher told my Grandmother and she passed it along to us. Short, sweet and so very true.
So when did both parents working become a convenient excuse for parents today not to teach their own kids what “used to be taught at home”.
Did mom teach it all or did dad find time to do his job and be a parent?
Hand a younger cashier cash where they have to count out correct change and you see the deer-in-the-headlights look.
Whether the fault falls with the teachers or parents, the US is falling further behind some countries in education.
If a subject is taught (and learned, students have responsibility too), then a student can do well when tested. If a student is taught just how to pass a standardized test, not much learning has occurred. The teacher may get congratulated on his/her students' results but the student is done a disservice for they have not learned material.
Whether the fault falls with the teachers or parents, the US is falling further behind some countries in education.
If a subject is taught (and learned, students have responsibility too), then a student can do well when tested. If a student is taught just how to pass a standardized test, not much learning has occurred. The teacher may get congratulated on his/her students' results but the student is done a disservice for they have not learned material.
Congratulated? No. They are allowed to keep their job.
Thank your very CONSERVATIVE state for putting that into effect.
Their jobs are not based on how they teach or how good of a teacher they are, it is based on how their students perform on the multitude of state standardized testing. And this in schools where students can not fail a class or a grade, they have to be passed on. ...so they walk into the next one completely unprepared for it.
Sad that students are not allowed to fail or have to repeat a grade. No wonder we are falling further behind as a country...
What's worse is that the kids know it.
My sister describes it as SC's Gentlemen's C policy.
True story...My parents pulled me out of Sara Collins and end up going to Shannon Forest. One of my class mates who ended up being one of my good friends up until 8th grade was non other then Jimmy Foster. He ended up going to Wade Hampton and me at J L Mann. We kind of loss touch after that.
The question is how do you define perform. So if I teach the lowest kids at my school they have language issues, reading and comprehension issues, attendance issues, behavior issues, etc….
Meanwhile if someone else teaches Advanced Placement classes they may show movies weekly, not come to school as much as me and may not teach as much when there. Yet their kids will inevitably perform better on the standardized test.
This didn’t occur because I was “a poor teacher.” It occurred because the teacher down the hall got the kids who were already going to do well versus taking the ones with tons of issues.
If you want to attach teacher job security and pay to test scores, I ask you who would want to teach the kids that need it most. No one in their right mind would do that.
A-M-E-N !!! And its not that SC doesn't already have some of the toughest standards in the country for becoming a teacher....at least in the public schools. Private school teachers do not have to meet those same standards (although a few private schools require them to).
So my question would be - How is it decided what teachers get what students? Do they give "good" students to "good" teachers? How does that work? I would think it is not randomized...
My sister has a Master's degree in Advanced Mathmatics as well as a Master's in Educational Administration. She taught remedial courses and basic math for several years before she got an opportunity to teach a course in Calculus (which she loves). Knowledge and ability to teach it are two different things. While a teacher has the knowledge, they also need to establish that the teacher can relay that knowledge on a level that the student can understand it. And, like every teacher, she still has to teach some more remedial classes.
So ultimately is up to the teacher to "relay that knowledge on a level that the student can understand it?"
I totally agree with that.
But if a student is determined not to try, that is not the teacher's fault.
I totally agree with that.
But if a student is determined not to try, that is not the teacher's fault.
Completely agree. You can lead a horse to water, but......
So almost 30 years ago. Got it
Maybe it's the more educated you get.....
