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Doesn't bother me. There are many others across all sports who are worse...Originally posted by Cola G'Cock:
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Spoiled? Really?Originally posted by cockn'fyr:
really hard for me to! He's still a spoiled brat!
My comment was not about his personal life in relation to his performance. And I totally disagree with you. Today's up and coming stars couldn't care less about Tiger Woods. Since they've been a factor, Tiger has not been relevant. They don't know what it's like to be on the course competing against Tiger Woods. They've only seen it on TV. Most of the guys at the top of the leaderboard these days weren't around back in 2010.Originally posted by ibleedgarnet:
His personal life has everything to do with his golf game. Once his extracurriculars came to light, his exterior started to crumble and his game suffered in kind. He's still a very private person but the public and his closest competitors know he's damaged and have taken full advantage. That and the fact there are many great golfers now who exude a similar attitude/air of invincibility. And maybe it's just a confidence thing from the up-and-comers, but it's nonetheless refreshing to see those atop the leaderboard not fall apart at the mere mention of Tiger's name.
This post was edited on 4/11 7:43 PM by ibleedgarnet
His early wins fueled an ego his dad fueled. He was a dick to everyone not kissing his butt. He got accolades for being the best for a long while, deservedly so. Turns out not to be long enough to be the absolute best.Originally posted by Sending an SOS:
I expect people not to understand his competitiveness. Most are not as competitive as he is. Not sure how his personal life has anything to do with his golf. Good enough not to like him, but that about it.
He's good for golf right now...
Gosh, this defines spoiled brat to me!Originally posted by USC92EEPE:
His early wins fueled an ego his dad fueled. He was a dick to everyone not kissing his butt. He got accolades for being the best for a long while, deservedly so. Turns out not to be long enough to be the absolute best.Originally posted by Sending an SOS:
I expect people not to understand his competitiveness. Most are not as competitive as he is. Not sure how his personal life has anything to do with his golf. Good enough not to like him, but that about it.
He's good for golf right now...
Anyone play golf with an 18 handicap who gets pissed and tosses clubs after every non perfect hit. Yea that guy. Tiger is that guy at the pro level. He is no more who he imagines he is in his head and continues to be the ass as he was trained to be. Most highly competitive folks are also gracious in defeat. Tiger may be good for ratings but is a pathetic example of a sportsman. I have no ill will against him and am fine if he wins this week but he is still an emotional infant.
Honestly, I think it's a personality sort of thing. Just because you can't identify with it, doesn't mean it's wrong. Some people just expect to be great at everything - perfectionists are an example. And when things go wrong, it gets them mad. I only say this because I tend to be like that as well. If Tiger is anything like me, he doesn't care who approves of him. I don't think Tiger isn't gracious in defeat. He's going to be devastated that he lost, but it's not like he makes excuses for himself or degrades a winner. To call him an emotional infant is short sided. For many years his ability to handle his emotions in pressure situations led to his success. Just because he is expressive on the course, it doesn't mean he doesn't know how to handle his emotions.Originally posted by USC92EEPE:
His early wins fueled an ego his dad fueled. He was a dick to everyone not kissing his butt. He got accolades for being the best for a long while, deservedly so. Turns out not to be long enough to be the absolute best.
Anyone play golf with an 18 handicap who gets pissed and tosses clubs after every non perfect hit. Yea that guy. Tiger is that guy at the pro level. He is no more who he imagines he is in his head and continues to be the ass as he was trained to be. Most highly competitive folks are also gracious in defeat. Tiger may be good for ratings but is a pathetic example of a sportsman. I have no ill will against him and am fine if he wins this week but he is still an emotional infant.
In a way, Tiger is a victim of his own success. He was being molded into a future professional golfer when he was 4 years old at a time when other kids his age weren't. Now, nearly 20 years after he turned pro, all those kids who were toddlers when he was winning his first Masters have grown up. Now, he's a 40 year old golfer trying to compete against a bunch of 20-something products of the "Tiger Generation" of golfers.Originally posted by Sending an SOS:
Most of the guys at the top of the leaderboard these days weren't around back in 2010.
I'm not a golf fan by any measure, but if golf needs him, then it's in a sad state of affairs. That's just mho though. I do have to ask... why do you think that golf needs Woods??? Is it because he is black?? Or because he generates a lot of publicity, both good and bad??Originally posted by nikolas22:
He is working out at the gym my son works at. He is very intense. Comes in without anyone else...unless it is Lindsey. I think golf needs him. Hope he is able to continue playing.
The problem I have with this kind of post is the people accepting Tiger's recent results and behavior and the posts dumping on our own in football, baseball and men's basketball. He's had his day in the sun and was never graceful about it whether winning or losing. The King is dead, long live the King, whomever he may be.Originally posted by dcdayday:
I'm still pulling for Tiger. I could careless what he does at home. I'm more concerned about how well he does in these major tournaments. Besides these same guys criticizing Tiger for these extra marital affairs are probably doing or have done the same.
Ain't going to happen. That is, the getting back to old form part. Never has and never will and he is still a whining spoiled brat..Originally posted by GamecockTripp:
All he needs is some HGH and a couple of Waffle House waitresses to bang. He'll be back to old form in no time.
And Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds were good for the bottom line also. Lance Armstrong was great for the tour. At least Lance could argue that EVERYONE was doing it. How many of Tiger's fellow players were juicing?Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
As long as Tiger is playing - he's great for the sport. Look at how there's this much conversation there is about a guy that finished tied for 17th. Everyone who has a financial stake in the PGA being successful loves to have him around (even the players).
Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?Originally posted by USC92EEPE:
And Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds were good for the bottom line also. Lance Armstrong was great for the tour. At least Lance could argue that EVERYONE was doing it. How many of Tiger's fellow players were juicing?Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
As long as Tiger is playing - he's great for the sport. Look at how there's this much conversation there is about a guy that finished tied for 17th. Everyone who has a financial stake in the PGA being successful loves to have him around (even the players).
Did you see him hurt his hand in the pine straw Sunday? He chucked a shot from where he should not have been and had his caddy fish around in the pine straw as if he hit something other than a bad shot. Tiger 10 years ago would have chewed up and spit out his current self. And made jokes to his caddy (and ho) about how pathetic this old dude is. That's your hero.
Final refuge for the guy that lost the argument. Pathetic.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?Originally posted by USC92EEPE:
And Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds were good for the bottom line also. Lance Armstrong was great for the tour. At least Lance could argue that EVERYONE was doing it. How many of Tiger's fellow players were juicing?Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
As long as Tiger is playing - he's great for the sport. Look at how there's this much conversation there is about a guy that finished tied for 17th. Everyone who has a financial stake in the PGA being successful loves to have him around (even the players).
Did you see him hurt his hand in the pine straw Sunday? He chucked a shot from where he should not have been and had his caddy fish around in the pine straw as if he hit something other than a bad shot. Tiger 10 years ago would have chewed up and spit out his current self. And made jokes to his caddy (and ho) about how pathetic this old dude is. That's your hero.
No. I just find it funny how people get so angry at a golfer. That's what is pathetic.Originally posted by sandlapper59:
Final refuge for the guy that lost the argument. Pathetic.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?Originally posted by USC92EEPE:
And Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds were good for the bottom line also. Lance Armstrong was great for the tour. At least Lance could argue that EVERYONE was doing it. How many of Tiger's fellow players were juicing?Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
As long as Tiger is playing - he's great for the sport. Look at how there's this much conversation there is about a guy that finished tied for 17th. Everyone who has a financial stake in the PGA being successful loves to have him around (even the players).
Did you see him hurt his hand in the pine straw Sunday? He chucked a shot from where he should not have been and had his caddy fish around in the pine straw as if he hit something other than a bad shot. Tiger 10 years ago would have chewed up and spit out his current self. And made jokes to his caddy (and ho) about how pathetic this old dude is. That's your hero.
When the hole is already too deep, the smart thing is to stop digging. No one was angry, just disagreeing with you.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
No. I just find it funny how people get so angry at a golfer. That's what is pathetic.Final refuge for the guy that lost the argument. Pathetic.Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?
When the hole is already too deep, the smart thing is to stop digging. No one was angry, just disagreeing with you.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
No. I just find it funny how people get so angry at a golfer. That's what is pathetic.Final refuge for the guy that lost the argument. Pathetic.Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?
I wasn't claiming you were angry, but the poster to whom my original comment was directed (then you felt the need to interject yourself).Originally posted by sandlapper59:
When the hole is already too deep, the smart thing is to stop digging. No one was angry, just disagreeing with you.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
No. I just find it funny how people get so angry at a golfer. That's what is pathetic.Final refuge for the guy that lost the argument. Pathetic.Let me guess: Tiger slept with your wife?
Didn't mean to repeat but the devil made me do it.
This post was edited on 4/14 8:26 AM by sandlapper59