This board done?

[DeeDave]

It's a big deal if you're moving around much. Also, low oxygen environments leave you more vulnerable to viruses docking to your cells.

When you look at 80+% of the animals in the wood testing positive and then look at the Antarctica studies, it's pretty clear COVID was in the atmosphere. So it could easily move through skin and ears. A similar example is RoundUp. Pretty much every person in the world now has RoundUp metabolites in their urine. That includes infants.

As I said, I am sure it's a problem for some people. But sorry, I don't believe it's a problem for most people- more of an inconvenience. For some it's just pure political. For some it's an issue because of other poor choices they've made.

Like the smoker who complains that masks restrict his breathing and are hard on his lungs. LOL Yeah- a mask is the real culprit there.

it's clear that COVID can spread in animals because animals, and birds don't stay in one place. Not to mention a worldwide animal trade- often black market trade.

Dave, comeon man. They were saying this from Day One. That was a major sales angle....Go out and get your vaccine for your fellowman. Maddow would describe almost nightly how the "virus stops in the tracks" when you have the vaccine. "You cannot give it to someone and you cannot get it if you have your vaccine." Biden said the same. Maddow is now gone from MSNBC. Fauci is now gone from TV.

Yes, they were saying that. I agree- but so were folks like Trump. They said that because they were trying their best to encourage people the best they could. Virtually everyone was pointing to the vaccines.

I just think it was a tactic that didn't work. Scientists know vaccines don't 100% prevent diseases. We know that because we have numerous vaccines that don't 100% prevent diseases. WE do know they do a great job of limiting severe disease.

and try your best- like me- to not listen to cable news talkers- any of them. I fail too.

That's what they said. Then they suppressed data but had to abandon mandates when other countries who were reporting actual data didn't show anything close to what they were saying.

I know, I know. all the hospitals across the country that release their COVID info and what the profile of the people in their intensive care units are lying and fabricating the info.

People like my sister, who helps compile the information for a hospital in the upstate is lying. I know. I've heard it before. She's just a liar. Believe me, she's heard it too- more than you can imagine. It's one of the reasons she's getting out of nursing at age 45 when her agreement is up with her employer.

You are misinterpreting this "data " from other countries. But again, I'm tired of talking about it.

If you have a fever, get tested. If not, don't. It was a silly game to sell tests and vaccines. Once again, when they started to close the book on COVID and mandates, everything was above 2021. They didn't even try to hide it. This is how nuts things have become.

Fever is not the only sign of COVID. IN fact, some studies show up to 40% of people don't have a fever at the beginning.

My friend that died of COVID in November 2020 didn't have a fever until he was in the hospital - at least according to his sister. He felt bad- sore throat, thought it was a sinus issue until he woke up one night and had trouble breathing.

Again, what you are suggesting is unworkable. You aren't going to tell millions of people in a pandemic they can't get a COVID test unless they have a fever when we know that some people have COVID and don't have a fever - or don't think they have a fever but end up having a slight fever.

If are you taking the temperature, you might as well test them. If they take their own temperature and don't have one- but have sore throat, or lose their taste for seemingly no reason, no doctor anywhere- no nurse anywhere is going to tell them they won't give them a test. That wouldn't make sense because we don't do that for the flu either.

Sorry, the alternative just makes no sense in the real world conditions. This is a non issue now anyway with the prevalence of at home tests.


We just disagree each other. But a good discussion.

 

[Ward Jr]

As I said, I am sure it's a problem for some people. But sorry, I don't believe it's a problem for most people- more of an inconvenience. For some it's just pure political. For some it's an issue because of other poor choices they've made.

Like the smoker who complains that masks restrict his breathing and are hard on his lungs. LOL Yeah- a mask is the real culprit there.

it's clear that COVID can spread in animals because animals, and birds don't stay in one place. Not to mention a worldwide animal trade- often black market trade.

There's just no evidence it's helping. Even the thicker ones.

Yes, they were saying that. I agree- but so were folks like Trump. They said that because they were trying their best to encourage people the best they could. Virtually everyone was pointing to the vaccines.

I just think it was a tactic that didn't work. Scientists know vaccines don't 100% prevent diseases. We know that because we have numerous vaccines that don't 100% prevent diseases. WE do know they do a great job of limiting severe disease.

and try your best- like me- to not listen to cable news talkers- any of them. I fail too.

I don't look at this as a partisan issue at all. I do believe the "95% effective" and "safe and effective" messages during the vaccine rollout (and well beyond) was criminal activity. We aren't children. You had almost 30 years of information. Give us the facts and patient consent.

I know, I know. all the hospitals across the country that release their COVID info and what the profile of the people in their intensive care units are lying and fabricating the info.

All we can go on is what governments actually report. Not hospitals with incentives owned by the same corporations providing the vaccines. Our government chose to suppress. Other countries decided to report.

People like my sister, who helps compile the information for a hospital in the upstate is lying. I know. I've heard it before. She's just a liar. Believe me, she's heard it too- more than you can imagine. It's one of the reasons she's getting out of nursing at age 45 when her agreement is up with her employer.

You are misinterpreting this "data " from other countries. But again, I'm tired of talking about it.



Fever is not the only sign of COVID. IN fact, some studies show up to 40% of people don't have a fever at the beginning.

My friend that died of COVID in November 2020 didn't have a fever until he was in the hospital - at least according to his sister. He felt bad- sore throat, thought it was a sinus issue until he woke up one night and had trouble breathing.

Again, what you are suggesting is unworkable. You aren't going to tell millions of people in a pandemic they can't get a COVID test unless they have a fever when we know that some people have COVID and don't have a fever - or don't think they have a fever but end up having a slight fever.

If are you taking the temperature, you might as well test them. If they take their own temperature and don't have one- but have sore throat, or lose their taste for seemingly no reason, no doctor anywhere- no nurse anywhere is going to tell them they won't give them a test. That wouldn't make sense because we don't do that for the flu either.

Sorry, the alternative just makes no sense in the real world conditions. This is a non issue now anyway with the prevalence of at home tests.

When do we do this with any other disease? We knew by March 2020 exactly what this virus was about.

We just disagree each other. But a good discussion.

Agree. Good chat.

 

[bucketdad]

Liberals want to kill gay people?

it seems - agree with them or not- that "Liberals" have worked pretty hard to make sure gay people enjoy more rights than they had historically because they had been denied by conservative laws based on someone's religious beliefs.

Glad you said "historically" and used the past tense when saying they were denied rights. Sounds like it's time to quit treating them a victims because mission accomplished! Good job dems! But that wont happen will it. Gotta keep that victim train rolling for dems sake. It's a must.

 

[DeeDave]

Glad you said "historically" and used the past tense when saying they were denied rights. Sounds like it's time to quit treating them a victims because mission accomplished! Good job dems! But that wont happen will it. Gotta keep that victim train rolling for dems sake. It's a must.

I think there are plenty of examples where it's not time to quit.

For example, just this year there was an effort in Virginia to remove the gay marriage ban language enshrined in the Virginia Constitution. Republicans blocked the effort to remove it.

It wasn't liberals that tried to block it. It was conservatives that blocked it. The "don't care about who gets married" and "people should be free to do what they want" folks didn't want to remove language in the state constitution that would have guaranteed that with respect to marriage between 2 people.

We know the SCOTUS has ruled and gay marriage bans are currently no longer lawful. But as we know, another court could reverse that ruling with a new ruling- meaning the Virginia gay marriage ban would automatically be law again. If Virginia had removed what is now worthless- useless language in their constitution, a federal court change wouldn't matter.

So yes- it is sure sure something that should be paid attention to.

 

[TAV31]

A friend of my wife's drove from South Carolina to South Dakota in an electric car. I think it was a Tesla but I am not sure. Stopped every 3-3.5 hours for a short break and looked at it as an adventure. Took his young son with him. Stopped at several state and national parks along the way.

as I have gotten older, I take rest breaks every 3-4 hours anyway where 20 years ago I'd drive all night long or whatever. I don't want to do that anymore.

Said it took some planning, but they were doing it for the experience and had a blast. This was about 3-4 years ago so I am sure it's actually easier now.

Plus, there are now tons of guides out there with great stops listed these days for those wanting to do such a trip.

Yeah, I took it slow this year because I took the whole family. Made it a 2.5 day trip to get there. But normally we leave and drive 25hrs straight to our destination. They don't have anything invented yet that would work for me. We go 10-15hrs and won't see a town much less a store during the week hunting. Not taking a chance getting stranded in a blizzard.

 

[Neanderthal]

I’ve never driven a battery-powered car. I have a few tools that are battery powered. The blower is fine as long as you don’t need to use it more than 20-30 minutes. It’ll need re-charging. Put it on jet power and the battery will run down pretty fast. The drill is great - can’t do without it. The chainsaw is a disappointment. Every couple of minutes you must adjust the chain tightener or the chain will pop off the bar. It won’t cut anything thicker than your wrist - rpms are too low. It helps if all of your tools have interchangeable batteries, of course. The technicians (those who fix stuff when it breaks) say at the workshops and demos all the experts talk about is battery power now.

 

[DeeDave]

Yeah, I took it slow this year because I took the whole family. Made it a 2.5 day trip to get there. But normally we leave and drive 25hrs straight to our destination. They don't have anything invented yet that would work for me. We go 10-15hrs and won't see a town much less a store during the week hunting. Not taking a chance getting stranded in a blizzard.

Well, yes- that wouldn't work for you. But an electric vehicle to drive day in and day out would work.

I think as electric cars before much more common, people will have an electric car and have their old gas vehicle and slowly you'll see a majority of electric cars but people will still have older style cars around here and there.

I could even see with the move to more electric cars, people will rent trucks and other such vehicles for just those outings you are talking about.

 

[bucketdad]

I think there are plenty of examples where it's not time to quit.

For example, just this year there was an effort in Virginia to remove the gay marriage ban language enshrined in the Virginia Constitution. Republicans blocked the effort to remove it.

It wasn't liberals that tried to block it. It was conservatives that blocked it. The "don't care about who gets married" and "people should be free to do what they want" folks didn't want to remove language in the state constitution that would have guaranteed that with respect to marriage between 2 people.

We know the SCOTUS has ruled and gay marriage bans are currently no longer lawful. But as we know, another court could reverse that ruling with a new ruling- meaning the Virginia gay marriage ban would automatically be law again. If Virginia had removed what is now worthless- useless language in their constitution, a federal court change wouldn't matter.

So yes- it is sure sure something that should be paid attention to.

Attempts mean very little because there is always going to be a far left and far right. What ultimately prevails is the will of the people, as it should. Such attempts should not be an excuse for continued victim status. But I get it... gotta keep victimization alive for the sake of the party. Everyone has become discriminated against by someone... including the white male increasingly. If everyone is a victim, no one is... but that would destroy the Dem's reason for existence.

 

[PaleoCock]

Attempts mean very little because there is always going to be a far left and far right. What ultimately prevails is the will of the people, as it should. Such attempts should not be an excuse for continued victim status. But I get it... gotta keep victimization alive for the sake of the party. Everyone has become discriminated against by someone... including the white male increasingly. If everyone is a victim, no one is... but that would destroy the Dem's reason for existence.

Well said. If you're born in a poor environment, the last thing you need are mental disincentives.

Imagine what the country would look like if our ancestors were told in advance that the system is rigged, the situation is out of their control, and it's their neighbor's fault?

 

[Lurker123]

Well said. If you're born in a poor environment, the last thing you need are mental disincentives.

Imagine what the country would look like if our ancestors were told in advance that the system is rigged, the situation is out of their control, and it's their neighbor's fault?

Agreed.

No one likes to admit to the mentality of playing victim, but you can see it's allure. From a political standpoint, you can get large groups of people who would otherwise object, to join in on ridiculous behavior because they feel "justified", or because they've convinced themselves the other guy deserves it. Or because someones ancestor looked like someone who did something bad to someone e else's ancestor.

And voila, you've got a banner under which to act out and not take responsibility.

I can't blame politicians for picking that low hanging fruit. I can blame the people that join in.

 

[PaleoCock]

"So I think we had, perhaps too little caution and too much optimism."

Give her credit for trying to be honest after 2.5 years. However, you helped wrecked our country and got alot of Americans fired by following intuition and flimsy "science." You also blocked other therapies that could have been of great assistance.

Deaths yesterday were almost exactly what they were a year ago today. New cases at 75%. They've once again turn to the broad shoulders of Dr. Sun as it arrives back from vacation.

 

[PaleoCock]

Agreed.

No one likes to admit to the mentality of playing victim, but you can see it's allure. From a political standpoint, you can get large groups of people who would otherwise object, to join in on ridiculous behavior because they feel "justified", or because they've convinced themselves the other guy deserves it. Or because someones ancestor looked like someone who did something bad to someone e else's ancestor.

And voila, you've got a banner under which to act out and not take responsibility.

I can't blame politicians for picking that low hanging fruit. I can blame the people that join in.

All good points. It's been said a million times, but Obama and Rahm threw everything at SW Chicago as their career experiment and only made matters worse. The entire area is basically a 3 mile radius.

While I agree we should try to help, it's clear what we are doing isn't working. I visit there a few times a year and now most of the city feels very volatile and it used to be a great place to visit. Super unfortunate.

 

[bucketdad]

Agreed.

No one likes to admit to the mentality of playing victim, but you can see it's allure. From a political standpoint, you can get large groups of people who would otherwise object, to join in on ridiculous behavior because they feel "justified", or because they've convinced themselves the other guy deserves it. Or because someones ancestor looked like someone who did something bad to someone e else's ancestor.

And voila, you've got a banner under which to act out and not take responsibility.

I can't blame politicians for picking that low hanging fruit. I can blame the people that join in.

As the number of victims decreases in an evolving society, evidently ways must be found to increase it. That's probably why they have added the offended to the victim rolls as if one has a right not to be offended.
That way, the politicians that capitalize on the higher numbers will have something to hang their hat on... although I'd like to think they are running out of hooks.

 

[Ward Jr]

"So I think we had, perhaps too little caution and too much optimism."

Give her credit for trying to be honest after 2.5 years. However, you helped wrecked our country and got alot of Americans fired by following intuition and flimsy "science." You also blocked other therapies that could have been of great assistance.

Deaths yesterday were almost exactly what they were a year ago today. New cases at 75%. They've once again turn to the broad shoulders of Dr. Sun as it arrives back from vacation.

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Geez. Kicking off her career rehab tour after the "shut up and just do it" tour flopped.

 

[yemacock]

Nope. SEC Network+.

Two different things.

Not so. I recommend purchasing the Disney package for $13.99 month. That gives you all the disney channels, ESPN+ and Hulu. ESPN+ l DOES INCLUDE ALL ESPN channels including SECN+ and ACCN+. I have it on my Amazon Firestick and it's easy but sometimes aggravating trying to find what you want.

 

[Lurker123]

As the number of victims decreases in an evolving society, evidently ways must be found to increase it.

So true. It's sad/comical to look at some of the things that make people "victims" today vs further in the past.

It's the wrong attitude, but I do take a little pride or maybe sense of entertainment when people bring up offenses and I think to myself, that's it?

 

[GamecockWarrior]

Not so. I recommend purchasing the Disney package for $13.99 month. That gives you all the disney channels, ESPN+ and Hulu. ESPN+ l DOES INCLUDE ALL ESPN channels including SECN+ and ACCN+. I have it on my Amazon Firestick and it's easy but sometimes aggravating trying to find what you want.

Whether it includes it or not is not the issue. As I said...they are still two different things.

 

[DeeDave]

Attempts mean very little because there is always going to be a far left and far right. What ultimately prevails is the will of the people, as it should. Such attempts should not be an excuse for continued victim status. But I get it... gotta keep victimization alive for the sake of the party. Everyone has become discriminated against by someone... including the white male increasingly. If everyone is a victim, no one is... but that would destroy the Dem's reason for existence.

Attempts mean a lot- attempts shows what people are trying to do - what they really want to do to their fellow citizens if not constrained by a law.

It's incredible that Republicans in Virginia would not remove a gay marriage ban in their own constitution- with the hope that one day gay marriage would be once again banned in Virginia.


Yes, a lot of white males do SAY they are victims. I laugh when that is stated, but plenty seem to believe it. Playing the victim is popular it seems.

 

[DeeDave]

All good points. It's been said a million times, but Obama and Rahm threw everything at SW Chicago as their career experiment and only made matters worse. The entire area is basically a 3 mile radius.

While I agree we should try to help, it's clear what we are doing isn't working. I visit there a few times a year and now most of the city feels very volatile and it used to be a great place to visit. Super unfortunate.

why leave out Trump?

Didn't he say he was sending extra "help" to the city? He said he'd send in the military- of course he didn't.

He also threatened to send in the National Guard (he's not empowered to do that).

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

send in the National Guard (he's not empowered to do that).

Who besides the commander in chief would be empowered to take charge of the NATIONAL guard in times of emergency?

 

[DeeDave]

Who besides the commander in chief would be empowered to take charge of the NATIONAL guard in times of emergency?

Governors typically control the National Guard unless they are specifically federalized by the President.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Governors typically control the National Guard unless they are specifically federalized by the President.

So first he doesn't have the power and then suddenly he does! Thats what is actually called golden.

 

[DeeDave]

So first he doesn't have the power and then suddenly he does! Thats what is actually called golden.

He can invoke the Insurrection Act- but it's rare.

So I was wrong- he can do it- but he didn't because it is problematic - and it's a bit illogical for the "keep the federal government out of it" crowd to use it to impose federal control over a governor's choices.

Because a Democratic President can come along and move in the national guard when they want to - a decision Republican governors would flip out about.

 

[Jbouton2]

So first he doesn't have the power and then suddenly he does! Thats what is actually called golden.

Sounds like Biden doesn't he, clueless and flip flopping

 

[DeeDave]

Sounds like Biden doesn't he, clueless and flip flopping

I just like hearing the "Keep the feds out of it" crowd arguing for the federal government to take over what is normally local state function and decision.

The hypocrisy is always interesting.

 

[PaleoCock]

Important info for parents that likely will never be reported on by our current government, the CDC or mainstream media.

“Vaccine efficacy turned negative during the Omicron surge a month after kids were inoculated (-10%) and declined even more after six weeks (-41%). This means vaccinated children were significantly more likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated.”

Healthy Children Don't Need COVID Vaccines // Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/health...-surgeon-general-recommend-school-11647803711

Dr. Joseph Lapedo is FL Surgeon General and Harvard-Trained Physician.

 

[TAV31]

Look at the photo of an oil rig, then look at a photo of the pits/mines for the materials needed for the electrical vehicles. Look how the power is made to charge your vehicles. Eventually science will come up with a better idea, but not in my lifetime. I'll stick to gas/diesel.
Saw a meme today showing a guy running a generator in a parking lot with a power cord to his little electric vehicle. He's clever, but that's a big NO for me.

 

[bucketdad]

Important info for parents that likely will never be reported on by our current government, the CDC or mainstream media.

“Vaccine efficacy turned negative during the Omicron surge a month after kids were inoculated (-10%) and declined even more after six weeks (-41%). This means vaccinated children were significantly more likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated.”

Healthy Children Don't Need COVID Vaccines // Wall Street Journal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/health...-surgeon-general-recommend-school-11647803711

Dr. Joseph Lapedo is FL Surgeon General and Harvard-Trained Physician.

Whats bad is this is the kinda stuff that typically gets canceled and deleted by social media companies because they dont want little things like facts getting in their way. Maybe they'd think differently if those idiots there actually had kids.

 

[DeeDave]

Dr. Joseph Lapedo is FL Surgeon General and Harvard-Trained Physician.

What a crazy, nut job quack.

Even his own boss at UCLA said Lapedo was a problem in their department and often took contrary views just to get noticed. It worked, He got noticed. LOL

 

[PaleoCock]

What a crazy, nut job quack.

Even his own boss at UCLA said Lapedo was a problem in their department and often took contrary views just to get noticed. It worked, He got noticed. LOL

This is sad. So is your excessive use of LOL when you have no argument. He's the Surgeon General of the State of Florida and a Harvard-trained physician. He has the support over 20,000 physicians from all over the world. Check the data flowing in from countries who don't purposely hide their COVID data.

Johns Hopkins studied 48,000 children before vaccination commenced at close to the 2 year mark of the pandemia, they found zero COVID deaths among healthy kids.

The Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-co...-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868#_=_

 

[bucketdad]

What a crazy, nut job quack.

Even his own boss at UCLA said Lapedo was a problem in their department and often took contrary views just to get noticed. It worked, He got noticed. LOL

Never mind that only one derigotory comment could be found during an extensive background check. That comment came from one UCLA supervisor that wished to stay anonymous while several high ranking (dept heads) UCLA professors in the medical dept went on record in support of Lapedo.

 

[PaleoCock]

How many athletes have we seen complaining of chest pains and breathing issues over the past year?

Nadal is the latest:

 

[PaleoCock]

Biden now beginning to discuss New World Order. An executive order on digital currency was signed last week.

Those crazy conspiracy theorists.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...w_world_order_and_america_has_to_lead_it.html

 

[The Doctors Back]

Well first of all I don’t see where someone being gay hurts you. But let that hate shine through in the name of God.

As for abortion, I don’t personally believe it should be used as a contraceptive but let me ask you this question. You’re off at a gamecock game. Someone breaks into the house and rapes your wife at gun point. Do you consider that a blessing from God and tell your wife she must go through with it?

That’s the question that everyone always asks when defending abortion…..”what about rape?” Either you believe abortion is ok, or you believe it is killing an innocent child. I choose the later. The innocent child doesn’t pick their daddy. If the child was conceived in rape, it’s still an innocent child that you are saying it’s now ok to kill. There are many bad things that happen when crimes occur and there are always innocents affected, whether it’s your wife or someone else.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

That’s the question that everyone always asks when defending abortion…..”what about rape?” Either you believe abortion is ok, or you believe it is killing an innocent child. I choose the later. The innocent child doesn’t pick their daddy. If the child was conceived in rape, it’s still an innocent child that you are saying it’s now ok to kill. There are many bad things that happen when crimes occur and there are always innocents affected, whether it’s your wife or someone else.

So if your wife were raped and impregnated and she didn’t want to keep the child, you would push to have this child regardless?

 

[bill222]

Attempts mean a lot- attempts shows what people are trying to do - what they really want to do to their fellow citizens if not constrained by a law.

It's incredible that Republicans in Virginia would not remove a gay marriage ban in their own constitution- with the hope that one day gay marriage would be once again banned in Virginia.


Yes, a lot of white males do SAY they are victims. I laugh when that is stated, but plenty seem to believe it. Playing the victim is popular it seems.

More racism from the board's most active and accomplished liar. Your phantom niece and time traveling nephew/brother/grandpa/housecat would be ashamed.

 

[bill222]

So I was wrong-

As usual.

 

[The Doctors Back]

So if your wife were raped and impregnated and she didn’t want to keep the child, you would push to have this child regardless?

That’s not the point. It’s whether or not you believe abortion is killing a child. If you do, then it’s killing a child regardless of how the child came into existence.

 

[Boom4life]

That’s not the point. It’s whether or not you believe abortion is killing a child. If you do, then it’s killing a child regardless of how the child came into existence.

I’m sorry but the issue is not that clear cut and dry. For starters defining what a child is comes into issue. When you believe a child is a child dictates the answer to that question.

 

[Gamecockben1979]

That’s not the point. It’s whether or not you believe abortion is killing a child. If you do, then it’s killing a child regardless of how the child came into existence.

It exactly is the point. You can’t claim abortion is murder unless the case gets personal and then it’s ok.