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Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

I know I'm coming across as heartless. Things have worked out OK for me. I got lucky and married a girl who is 10x smarter than me (I can just hear some folks here saying that's not difficult). We are doing OK. We try to give back as much as we can. 90% of our charitable donations are to help children, the elderly poor and to those devastated by natural disasters. If family members need financial help, we will step up. That's what families do. All that being said, we are not rich.

It’s not the heartless part that bothers me. It’s the illogical part.

You’re saying it was tough for you, but you’re expecting others to do just as well as you did even though the numbers show it’s 6 times harder for them.

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You’re generally reasonable so I’m honestly surprised by this take.

You found jobs hard to find in 1971, but in 2021 there are 14 million more college students trying to find a jobs.

In 1971, a college student would need to work 300 hours to afford his college tuition on minimum wage.

In 2021, a USC student would need to work need to work 1,689 hours of minimum wage.

The numbers really speak for themselves on this one.
I know I'm coming across as heartless. Things have worked out OK for me. I got lucky and married a girl who is 10x smarter than me (I can just hear some folks here saying that's not difficult). We are doing OK. We try to give back as much as we can. 90% of our charitable donations are to help children, the elderly poor and to those devastated by natural disasters. If family members need financial help, we will step up. That's what families do. All that being said, we are not rich.
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My first 2 years in college, I went to a regional campus of USC, lived at home while doing that to cut down on the costs of going to college. My Dad unexpectedly passed away 2 years earlier. In the summer of 1971, summer jobs were hard to find where I lived. I had a friend whose brother lived in Columbus, Georgia, near the Alabama border. We both went out there and lived with his brother. The 2 of us got summer jobs at the Fort Benning military base. Life is going to throw you a curve ball. I know that better than most. You either adjust or strike out.

You’re generally reasonable so I’m honestly surprised by this take.

You found jobs hard to find in 1971, but in 2021 there are 14 million more college students trying to find a jobs.

In 1971, a college student would need to work 300 hours to afford his college tuition on minimum wage.

In 2021, a USC student would need to work need to work 1,689 hours of minimum wage.

The numbers really speak for themselves on this one.

Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

My first 2 years in college, I went to a regional campus of USC, lived at home while doing that to cut down on the costs of going to college. In the summer of 1971, summer jobs were hard to find where I lived. I had a friend whose brother lived in Columbus, Georgia, near the Alabama border. We both went out there and lived with his brother. The 2 of us got summer jobs at the Fort Benning military base. Life is going to throw you a curve ball. I know that better than most. You either adjust or strike out.

A similar situation worked well for my daughter who stayed home for two years at Midlands Tech, two years at USC and two years of USC grad school. For much of it she worked at Mid. Tech's bookstore and I covered her tuition.

Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

Parents paid my way at Wofford but today that would be impossible. The current Wofford tuition for two semesters + on campus residence is $72,225.
My first 2 years in college, I went to a regional campus of USC, lived at home while doing that to cut down on the costs of going to college. My Dad unexpectedly passed away 2 years earlier. In the summer of 1971, summer jobs were hard to find where I lived. I had a friend whose brother lived in Columbus, Georgia, near the Alabama border. We both went out there and lived with his brother. The 2 of us got summer jobs at the Fort Benning military base. Life is going to throw you a curve ball. I know that better than most. You either adjust or strike out.
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You Honestly think that someone needing an ID to vote, Restricts Citizens?? WOW, you watch WAY TOO much of "the View" and MSNBC!! You honestly want illegals to vote dont you?? Hell they were given free phones, free food, free housing, etc etc from the Demonrats, You know good and well they will vote for Democrat's free handouts from MY TAX dollars!! Admit it!! At least be an honest person once and admit it!!

How would an illegal register to vote? You need a SSN to even register to vote.

Your argument is nonsensical. I often wonder if you guys even understand how voting works.

Are we ready for LSU

I just felt good about the UK game. I picked us to win by a small margin. Here is exactly what I said...Looking forward to a good game today. It will be tough, but I see Carolina squeaking it out, 24-21.

Well, I feel good this week too, but still feel a little conservative, 28-21 Gamecocks.

I really hope they prove me wrong again. Those guys improved greatly in one week. I really hope they did that again. I have no clue what the score will be, it could be 3-0 or 31-6, but I just feel we are going to come out of this with a win.
Some people say UK isn't a good team. Well, they were ranked #23 to start the season. If they had been able to finish their first game, they may have been ranked higher. If we win, some on here will say LSU ain't so good. We might have to wait on the Ole Miss game to prove if we are any good are not. I just hope for a win this Saturday. Make us 3-0 and we might get ranked.

I will be there with my rain poncho on yelling like crazy. It is another sold out crowd. That crowd looked really good at the start of the ODU game. We just need them to make plenty of noise. We need that 12th man.

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Those poor people who have violated U.S. laws by entering the country illegally. You can put up a fight against voter ID all you want but don’t base it on a stupid Dem talking point. Under your conclusion, why won’t Dems give free passports to poor people? Why won’t state DMVs make driver’s licenses free to poor people. Be honest, you know Dems fight voter ID because they WANT illegals to vote in our elections. You yourself want that to happen if you fight voter ID.

Everyone pretty much knows why voter ID laws are pushed, and why they are fought so hard against by some.

But those radicals who put party before anything else will follow the party line and scream "voter suppression". Even if it makes no sense.

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Because voter ID laws exist to prevent citizens from voting.

There is a legitimate threat of underage kids buying cigarettes. It actually happens. Even still those laws only target those who look younger than 40 generally. Voter fraud is incredibly rare and last election mostly occurred by republicans. There is no benefit from keeping legal citizen from voting in the election.
You Honestly think that someone needing an ID to vote, Restricts Citizens?? WOW, you watch WAY TOO much of "the View" and MSNBC!! You honestly want illegals to vote dont you?? Hell they were given free phones, free food, free housing, etc etc from the Demonrats, You know good and well they will vote for Democrat's free handouts from MY TAX dollars!! Admit it!! At least be an honest person once and admit it!!

Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

Those poor people who have violated U.S. laws by entering the country illegally. You can put up a fight against voter ID all you want but don’t base it on a stupid Dem talking point. Under your conclusion, why won’t Dems give free passports to poor people? Why won’t state DMVs make driver’s licenses free to poor people. Be honest, you know Dems fight voter ID because they WANT illegals to vote in our elections. You yourself want that to happen if you fight voter ID.

This is why voter ID laws are so dangerous. You’re now accusing a poor person born in the US of being an illegal alien?

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There are always excuses. One does what he/she has to do. We all wish we were born in wealth. We all have roadblocks. I was a senior in high school when my Dad unexpectedly passed away. Nothing is given to most of us. You make a plan and carry it out. I remember when summer jobs were hard to find when I was in school. I traveled across nearly 2 states just to get a summer job. Like I said, you do what you have to do.

But you just agreed that it was impossible to do what you suggested. You’re just contradicting yourself and digging into an illogical position.

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The wild thing is you know voter fraud is in fact negligible and still want to implement voter id.


I already covered that:

You'll demand that its negligible. I'll ask how you know if you insist on not verifying. Any number i put out will be dismissed, because again, it's not really verified.

The intent was to skip over the inane back and forth, but you seem to really enjoy that.

Probably just seeking attention that you never got from a father figure.

Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

So you punish students for having bad parents?
There are always excuses. One does what he/she has to do. We all wish we were born in wealth. We all have roadblocks. I was a senior in high school when my Dad unexpectedly passed away. Nothing is given to most of us. You make a plan and carry it out. I remember when summer jobs were hard to find when I was in school. I traveled across nearly 2 states just to get a summer job. Like I said, you do what you have to do.
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You wouldn't be suggesting voter ID laws if it was really easy to obtain for all. The only benefit for voter ID laws is to prevent poor people from voting who are more likely to vote Democrat.
Those poor people who have violated U.S. laws by entering the country illegally. You can put up a fight against voter ID all you want but don’t base it on a stupid Dem talking point. Under your conclusion, why won’t Dems give free passports to poor people? Why won’t state DMVs make driver’s licenses free to poor people. Be honest, you know Dems fight voter ID because they WANT illegals to vote in our elections. You yourself want that to happen if you fight voter ID.

Dawn being Dawn at ESPYs

Georgia is Trump's most important state. He was just short last election. If he wins Georgia, it opens up a couple of paths for him, because he will win all the other states he won in 2020. Win Georgia and Pennsyvania, and it's over. Alternatively, win Georgia and maybe Arizona and Wisconsin. Or Arizona, Nevada, and get that stray electoral vote back from Nebraska. His best bet is to attack Georgia and Pennsylvania.
I would not take North Carolina for granted. NC would, in essence, cancel out GA. North Carolina will be tough.

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This just speaks to someone not really understanding or appreciating the current higher education system.

Back in the 70s when I’m assuming you went to school, you could work in the textile mill over the summer and afford to go to school without student loans. You just can’t do that anymore.

Undergraduate tuition at the university of South Carolina is $12,668 a year. Even if you made $12 an hour over the summer you would need to work over 1,000 hours during the summer just to earn gross amount of tuition. Then you add taxes, living expenses, etc.

It’s just not possible today.

Even when I was a summer associate at a large law firm that paid us a first year salary as a recruiting inducement, I barely made enough money that summer to cover my law school tuition.
Oh I do understand and know that. Parents have to step up. Part of a parents responsibility is to sacrifice for their children and help them out.

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Tell me WHY wouldnt you want Voter ID? That doesnt make sense. You need an ID to bank, an ID to buy Cigarettes, etc etc etc. ONLY one reason, So you can tell them ANY NAME you want and vote!!

Because voter ID laws exist to prevent citizens from voting.

There is a legitimate threat of underage kids buying cigarettes. It actually happens. Even still those laws only target those who look younger than 40 generally. Voter fraud is incredibly rare and last election mostly occurred by republicans. There is no benefit from keeping legal citizen from voting in the election.
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Georgia is Trump's most important state. He was just short last election. If he wins Georgia, it opens up a couple of paths for him, because he will win all the other states he won in 2020. Win Georgia and Pennsyvania, and it's over. Alternatively, win Georgia and maybe Arizona and Wisconsin. Or Arizona, Nevada, and get that stray electoral vote back from Nebraska. His best bet is to attack Georgia and Pennsylvania.

All he can do is hold rallies. They have no ground game.

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I never borrowed to go to school. I worked summer jobs in textile mills, all shifts and a job while attending school.

This just speaks to someone not really understanding or appreciating the current higher education system.

Back in the 70s when I’m assuming you went to school, you could work in the textile mill over the summer and afford to go to school without student loans. You just can’t do that anymore.

Undergraduate tuition at the university of South Carolina is $12,668 a year. Even if you made $12 an hour over the summer you would need to work over 1,000 hours during the summer just to earn gross amount of tuition. Then you add taxes, living expenses, etc.

It’s just not possible today.

Even when I was a summer associate at a large law firm that paid us a first year salary as a recruiting inducement, I barely made enough money that summer to cover my law school tuition.
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