Game thread - Clemson

[Bud Wiser]

Vann wasn’t ready to make a play on the ball. You could see on the big board he didn’t even try to get his hands up. He’s great when he’s open but he’s not a play maker who is going to get you those kind of balls.

If you have time go back and watch the defender push him. He was about to go up. It’s clear as day. The shove is why he didn’t get his arms up and jump to make a play on the ball. It was a subtle push by the defender and a good play by him. But that’s absolutely why Vann didn’t make a play on it. Not saying he makes the catch. Though he did make a catch like that against UGA.

 

[gamecocks247]

Well we are a "2nd half team" (if there is such a thing), and Clems qb gives us a chance.

 

[DeeDave]

Brown is a Gamecock and plays hard.

He's limited and he's running for his life.

Clemson's defense is dominating the game as I thought they would.

 

[Scuba_do]

Dabo actually said they created some turnovers. Looked like they were given to them.

 

[Dizzy01]

Go back and watch the defender push him. He was about to go up. It’s clear as day. The shove is why he didn’t get his arms up and jump to make a play on the ball. It was a subtle push by the defender and a good play by him. But that’s absolutely why Vann didn’t make a play on it. Not saying he makes the catch. Though he did make a catch like that against UGA.

Vann hasn’t fought for a ball all year and he sure wasn’t fighting for a flag on the play either. He’s a complementary receiver not a main guy.

 

[vidaliagamecock]

Satterfield gonna Satterfield

 

[Bud Wiser]

Vann hasn’t fought for a ball all year and he sure wasn’t fighting for a flag on the play either. He’s a complementary receiver not a main guy.

Again, he caught one like that against UGA. So he did do it at least once. He was asking for the flag as soon as he got pushed. It’s not the refs job to assume whether he would make the play or not. He’s gotta throw the flag. You aren’t giving Vann enough credit anyway.

 

[Joe MorrisonLives]

Muse was wide open and right in front of Brown. He needs to take what is available instead of forcing it.

First int was with a clean pocket

 

[1vagamecock]

Brown is a Gamecock and plays hard.

He's limited and he's running for his life.

Clemson's defense is dominating the game as I thought they would.

Agree, but he's not a SEC caliber QB

 

[Bad seed]

I had no idea the middle of our field was made of lava. That's has to be why we refuse to throw a slant over the middle, right?

 

[SCGCock07]

If Clemson had a decent QB they'd be up by 5 scores. I'm not going to let this ruin my night, because I expected this to happen and it doesn't take away that this team won twice as many games as I thought they would. But man I despise Clemson and it makes me angry that we aren't going to beat them for another generation.

 

[WingchunCock]

He's getting a clean pocket and I've seen a few receivers open shallow while he's making bad throws deep.

Yep, overlooks the short wide open receive for a well covered deep ball

 

[92Pony]

Agree, but he's not a SEC caliber QB

Do we have anyone on the team who is, is the question.

 

[CarolinaBro]

At least Sir Big Spur has a pimpin ride.

 

[DarkHorse2001]

PLEASE START ZEB NOLAND 2nd HALF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

 

[Bubbaglide]

I wish some of you naysayers would just turn it off and go to bed. There is a second half to play. Bama didn’t look good and won. We have usually played better in the second half. Beamer has done a great job with what he was given. He is smart. He will make changes as necessary after the season is over. He will recruit well too. We knew we would suck this year and we have. But we were not supposed to beat Auburn or Florida We will be better in the future just give the man a chance

 

[nocdoc]

USC offense isn't doing anything. The D can't hold on forever.

 

[WingchunCock]

PLEASE START ZEB NOLAND 2nd HALF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

He will get killed. At least Brown is avoiding the pressure the majority of the time

 

[CarolinaBro]

PLEASE START ZEB NOLAND 2nd HALF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE

With all due respect, Zeb is an absolute statue and would be a sitting duck with Clemson's DL.

 

[gamecock stock]

If Beamer drags his feet in making changes on his offensive staff, does Tanner or whoever actually hired Shane have the fortitude to gently, but firmly, inform him it is in his best interest and the future of the football program to do so? Our offense came into this game at 111th in Total Offense out of 130 teams. I've a hunch that we are not going to be higher or much higher than that after this game.

 

[cockymark]

Anybody that knows football and looks at clemson strength and our weakness fiqured this would happen....does not take away this season is a success!!

 

[DarkHorse2001]

With all due respect, Zeb is an absolute statue and would be a sitting duck with Clemson's DL.

With all due respect Brown is playing terrible and what do we have to lose at this point ?

 

[jthunder]

Again, he caught one like that against UGA. So he did do it at least once. He was asking for the flag as soon as he got pushed. It’s not the refs job to assume whether he would make the play or not. He’s gotta throw the flag. You aren’t giving Vann enough credit anyway.

He’s covering for Brown’s piss ass decision to throw it into double coverage.

 

[Jaybird1010]

It’s actually simple. We know we can’t run it behind our soft OL. So, run toss sweeps and block with our TEs and throw some dang screens. Vann is done. He shouldn’t even be out there. He can not get a step in Clemson’s CBs. Also run five wide and run Brown. Quit being baby’s. Brown is like 230lbs. Be a man and get five yards. Why have we went away from JuJu in the offense? So many freaking questions I have for coach Satt.

 

[Ghostang]

I wish some of you naysayers would just turn it off and go to bed. There is a second half to play. Bama didn’t look good and won. We have usually played better in the second half. Beamer has done a great job with what he was given. He is smart. He will make changes as necessary after the season is over. He will recruit well too. We knew we would suck this year and we have. But we were not supposed to beat Auburn or Florida We will be better in the future just give the man a chance

Florida and Auburn have been putrid at times as well.

 

[alaskagamecock]

He’s covering for Brown’s piss ass decision to throw it into double coverage.

Brown is doing the best he can, he just isn’t a very good QB, that’s obvious.

 

[rangercock]

Guys we ain’t winning. And that’s okay. Clemson is trying to be a good program. We’re just trying to running sport for students to have an outlet for their talents.

Honestly we shouldn’t be playing teams like Clemson or Georgia. They care and we don’t. Maybe if we were an FCS school we’d have success. Playing against more likeminded programs would be good IMO.

That’s one of the most ignorant statements I’ve seen in a while. Why would you want to see football like that. There are plenty of games you can watch with that level of competition to satisfy that need. That kind of defeatist attitude is TOXIC and frankly sounds like something a Clemson fan would say imo…

 

[CarolinaBro]

With all due respect Brown is playing terrible and what do we have to lose at this point ?

I mean, I hear what you're saying, I just think Zeb would be even worse.

 

[jonesz21]

If Clemson had a decent QB they'd be up by 5 scores. I'm not going to let this ruin my night, because I expected this to happen and it doesn't take away that this team won twice as many games as I thought they would. But man I despise Clemson and it makes me angry that we aren't going to beat them for another generation.

It’s gonna take several recruiting classes to get to where we need to be

 

[jthunder]

Brown is doing the best he can, he just isn’t a very good QB, that’s obvious.

Agreed.

 

[rangercock]

Florida and Auburn have been putrid at times as well.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT Ghost!!🤙

 

[CarolinaBro]

It’s actually simple. We know we can’t run it behind our soft OL. So, run toss sweeps and block with our TEs and throw some dang screens. Vann is done. He shouldn’t even be out there. He can not get a step in Clemson’s CBs. Also run five wide and run Brown. Quit being baby’s. Brown is like 230lbs. Be a man and get five yards. Why have we went away from JuJu in the offense? So many freaking questions I have for coach Satt.

Satterfield absolutely hates screens, I think I've seen us run like two of them all year. Seems like the obvious solution with a piss-poor OL and a fast pass rush, but what do I know.

 

[jonesz21]

I wish some of you naysayers would just turn it off and go to bed. There is a second half to play. Bama didn’t look good and won. We have usually played better in the second half. Beamer has done a great job with what he was given. He is smart. He will make changes as necessary after the season is over. He will recruit well too. We knew we would suck this year and we have. But we were not supposed to beat Auburn or Florida We will be better in the future just give the man a chance

You right. We got this

 

[Dizzy01]

Satterfield absolutely hates screens, I think I've seen us run like two of them all year. Seems like the obvious solution with a piss-poor OL and a fast pass rush, but what do I know.

Our receivers can’t block. Hard to run a screen when you have no physicality on the edge.

 

[92Pony]

With all due respect Brown is playing terrible and what do we have to lose at this point ?

I’d rather see Gauthier than Noland……

 

[Jaybird1010]

I just wish Colton could have got in some game this year. I’m telling you right now, the guy coming in next year is no better than what we got now. We need to go all out on UCF’s QB that is transferring. I’m sure we will not even try.

 

[CarolinaBro]

Our receivers can’t block. Hard to run a screen when you have no physicality on the edge.

Fair point.

 

[Bud Wiser]

It’s actually simple. We know we can’t run it behind our soft OL. So, run toss sweeps and block with our TEs and throw some dang screens. Vann is done. He shouldn’t even be out there. He can not get a step in Clemson’s CBs. Also run five wide and run Brown. Quit being baby’s. Brown is like 230lbs. Be a man and get five yards. Why have we went away from JuJu in the offense? So many freaking questions I have for coach Satt.

So who you putting in there instead of Vann? If our best WR can’t get a step on them, which one is going to? I mean…it’s actually not as easy as just saying throw to the TEs and have it work you know?

 

[uscwatson21]

If Beamer drags his feet in making changes on his offensive staff, does Tanner or whoever actually hired Shane have the fortitude to gently, but firmly, inform him it is in his best interest and the future of the football program to do so? Our offense came into this game at 111th in Total Offense out of 130 teams. I've a hunch that we are not going to be higher or much higher than that after this game.

Shane is going to fire Satterfield this year. Then next year we'll show minor improvement on offense while the defense takes a step back. So we'll be in the same place next year.

 

[Legendary Cock]

It's called player throwing an INT...

The question is: Where is the game plan that's actually worked for us this year. Brown throwing every other down ain't it.