My impression was that Driskel was always looking over his shoulder and Muschamp was never comfortable with him-- leading to a constant uneasy feeling at QB. Whether it was Jacoby initially and then Murphy and Treon Harris. But I could be wrong.
Hilinski is QB2 - Dak given the day off...
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My impression was that Driskel was always looking over his shoulder and Muschamp was never comfortable with him-- leading to a constant uneasy feeling at QB. Whether it was Jacoby initially and then Murphy and Treon Harris. But I could be wrong.
No. Driskel was the locked in starter and played very well until his injury. Physically he was fine when he came back but was not the same QB. They didn't have a choice but to sit him and he transferred following that year. His stats were miserable when he came back.
I like the idea we are getting to the point when a 4* QB is our 3rd team QB. That's not a hit on Dak and the call was most likely a close call between the two backups. At the D1 level it's all about competing because you're not in high school Kansas anymore. Dak could transfer out but it would surprise me if it's this season,but who knows. If he wants to play on Sunday down the road it won't be at QB so I'd like to see him stick and see what happens. I think the backup decision was the right one but it's a long and brutal season ahead and Dak should stick around because his shot could come.
We are the only one to give him a fair shot at QB and now we are the bad guy? Dak has a big decision to make. Does he want to make money or be a QB? We all have to deal with reality eventually. He will be angry and bitter for a while but once he sees his best path then I believe he will find happiness.
LOL he never had a chance to play QB at UofSC. the coaches just sold him that BS to get him to sign. then hope to change his mind later when he couldn't cut it.
Likely. It's entire possible the coaches knew he'd never win the starting QB job and felt safe telling he could come in and compete for QB. They could have done that and still given him a fair shot to win the job.
That's not quite how I remember it. UF was good in 2012, but it didn't have a whole lot to do with their QB play. They were 116th in the nation in pass attempts and 118th in passing yards per game. People were upset that Muschamp picked Driskel over Jacoby even then.
Look at the stats for their games before his injury and after. I did when this "issue" came up several months ago. Other QBs were getting scrap time prior to his injury.
Players change position all the time. He likely is not making it to the NFL as a qb......so why not look ar another position? Jalen Hurd was a RB at UT, and a pretty good SEC back. He transferred to Baylor, and they made him a receiver. He is on the 49ers right now as a receiver.
Joyner can help us somewhere.....hope we find that spot for him. But yeah, he could likely transfer and make some smaller school a very good QB on talent alone with his running ability. Hope he stays and we use him.
Joyner can help us somewhere.....hope we find that spot for him. But yeah, he could likely transfer and make some smaller school a very good QB on talent alone with his running ability. Hope he stays and we use him.
No matter what anyone says, the kid, at this stage, is not a high level D1 QB. Every evaluation saw that out of high school. We took a shot, it didn't work out, now he has a decision to make.
Thanks for the update coach. What time is practice? Do you think you can get me in to watch practice today?
I'm not sure what you mean by "Hillinski looks like a poor mans Chris Smelley"? But it appears that you know more about QB talent than our coaching staff. You should apply for a coaching job. We could use a good coach.
I'm just glad (and surprised) Coach Muschamp didn't go with the ole Joyner OR Hilinski for the first game.
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Difference is he had 1st round baseball talk as a senior coming out of high school...don't think Dak has that option
If you want credibility how about start with spelling Ryan's last name correctly.
Anyone that watched the spring game and wasn't delusional could see Dak was NOT the better of the two. Even after being here a year more. I think the coaches have given him a fair shake and are doing the right thing by telling him before the season starts.
It's crazy how everybody is forming their opinion on this young man without even seeing him play. No real game action. Crazy
That's what I mean. He can redshirt and still get valuable playing time this year in 4 games.
Funny I thought practice was closed.
muschamp has a stellar record with QB's doesn't he LOL. trust the coaches.....meanwhile watch bentley play all season long and be left with an unseasoned QB next season.
So you know more than our coaching staff, all the major recruiting services, and the coaching staffs of all 35 schools that offered him. Like someone else said, we really need you on our staff. Good job tater
If it were up to me I would play him as much as I could and forget the RS. He needs as much experience as possible going into next season.
Good points . A big time program like Bama , LSU , UGA etc etc might grab him and stash him for a year . He’s got athletic ability that is something you just can’t coach . He makes for a good high risk high reward project . Don’t be surprised if Auburn takes a flyer on him . He very much fits that Nick Marshall , Cam type of QB that Gus Loves . Cam was a much more polished passer but Marshall was basically just another playmaker in the backfield and that team was a minute away from a National Champ . Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up there .
All I can say is Joyner seems like a great kid and in this crazy game you never know what might happen or when your number might get called.
I understand he came here for the shot at QB...he can look around the SEC QB's and see that he isn't the typical mold. If that's what he wants to continue to pursue then I think he should do so - hopefully here at SC.
He's also got to ask himself if he wants to get on the field with a Power 5 school (hopefully with us), what does he need to do at this point to make that happen.
Hoping nothing but the best for him!
I understand he came here for the shot at QB...he can look around the SEC QB's and see that he isn't the typical mold. If that's what he wants to continue to pursue then I think he should do so - hopefully here at SC.
He's also got to ask himself if he wants to get on the field with a Power 5 school (hopefully with us), what does he need to do at this point to make that happen.
Hoping nothing but the best for him!
Smelley had an arm of jello. He played one great game before he lost it. Everyone is a talent evaluater and have never seen them play in a game.
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Let's be honest here, neither Joyner or Hilinski was ever going to play a down this year anyway as long as Muschamp has his chubby little fingers in the offensive pie, lol.
