Announcers referred to UGAs loss to us as embarrassing.
That’s about as low as you can go.
That’s about as low as you can go.
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Announcers referred to UGAs loss to us as embarrassing.
That’s about as low as you can go.
If UVA had players they would beat Clemson. Coaching is THE most important criteria when building an athlete or program. I think our argument back in 2015 has bitten us on the backside. “Gotta recruit better” which was on the level of “helps on the way”. While recruiting is important I swear it seems that many fans today are more concerned with that than the game. Surprised there’s not tailgating on signing day now. Sorry scoreboard matters and the game matters with coaching being the critical element to success.
We quit being relevant when Spurrier hung it up . Lou and Spurrier were the only reasons whatsoever. The days those two stepped on campus people took notice . The day Muschamp stepped on campus everybody laughed
We had 3 really good years, thats about it out of 27 seasons in the SEC...we aint shit but with the right Coach we cld be
You are right about Lou and Spurrier bringing us to the fore, same with JoMo, his pedigree played into his success. Muschamp, however good or poor he ends up being, came here as a failed head coach. People outside of Columbia stopped paying attention then. Its going to take years of winning or another revered name to get us attention.Meanwhile we just need to win more than we lose. That would be a good start.We quit being relevant when Spurrier hung it up . Lou and Spurrier were the only reasons whatsoever. The days those two stepped on campus people took notice . The day Muschamp stepped on campus everybody laughed
Right. We need to change the brand, the mascot, the colors - everything. And to answer the original question, I believe the national perception of us is 100% negative.First random fans don’t like that our mascot is a chicken and we call ourselves gamecocks
Very proud to be a gamecock. But as far as sports go, we are just another team that people generally don't pay much attention to most of the time. We have never sustained success, and until you do that, well, outside of the state and alumni, we're just another team.Wow? Are we Alumni, Fans, Paying Club Members, Boosters, People that take it on someone else so you can bash and feel better? It seems like everyone on this board is looking for negativity.
It’s sad. I remember when it was like to be a Gamecock! I remember when fans and true fans stuck together. You can’t choose your family. But I chose to go to the University of South Carolina. And I am damn proud of it. Living in Florida now, I still am proud to be a Gamecock!
Just be proud of the University you graduated from!
Do I like the decisions made...No. But I will support them. Just like they supported you when you received your degree. You chose to go to the University of South Carolina...that means something!
The perception is that we are not really serious about football. We have the facilities and the conference, but we lack the leadership. That's why it is perceived to be career suicide to come here and coach.
Mike McGee changed that for awhile by hiring Holtz then Spurrier. It looked like we were serious. But when we replaced Eric Hyman with Ray Tanner which led to the awkward end to the Spurrier years it confirmed what had been suspected. We aren't really interested in winning. Just the accouterments.
Wow? Are we Alumni, Fans, Paying Club Members, Boosters, People that take it on someone else so you can bash and feel better? It seems like everyone on this board is looking for negativity.
It’s sad. I remember when it was like to be a Gamecock! I remember when fans and true fans stuck together. You can’t choose your family. But I chose to go to the University of South Carolina. And I am damn proud of it. Living in Florida now, I still am proud to be a Gamecock!
Just be proud of the University you graduated from!
Do I like the decisions made...No. But I will support them. Just like they supported you when you received your degree. You chose to go to the University of South Carolina...that means something!
They didn’t support me when I received a degree !!! I paid for it . I paid ALOT for it . It was a business transaction plain and simple . Same with this Athletic Dept . They make an insane amount of money and they are expected to succeed . Why should we support mediocrity ?? Do you continue to frequent a restaurant when the food sucks time after time. Blind loyalty is a death blow to a program . Why should there be any change for the better if we accept failure ?? The reason we are so upset is because we still care .... for now . I know a lot of us quit watching or attending games ,not because we are upset , but because we just don’t really care anymore . When Apathy sets in you become Vanderbilt or Wake Forest . Sorry I respect your loyalty but I just don’t think blind support is killing this program .
Look at it this way, FLcock93, the only way we got Holtz and Spurrier was a total meltdown over Brad Scott. The difference then was we had an AD (Mike McGee) who knew he needed to think differently and go outside the box with both of those guys. Holtz was a real coin flip, but he got us on ESPN, and Spurrier just happened to be there. I will agree with you, the anger this time has a much louder and meaner tone. But, that's just our new, ugly society. It is sad. You don't have to be ugly to agree or disagree. You and I and a lot of others know that.But you had a choice. You could have gone to UGA, Florida, Virginia, Coastal, Clemson...you made that choice to go to the University of South Carolina. So you had a free ride everywhere else? It’s called life. We all had choices and we still do.
It’s just sad to see, hear and know that there are sad people. I’m sorry you don’t like your almumater’s football team. Think about the big picture. It’s about the players, the kids. Not us. The negativity is just so overwhelming.
Wow? Are we Alumni, Fans, Paying Club Members, Boosters, People that take it on someone else so you can bash and feel better? It seems like everyone on this board is looking for negativity.
It’s sad. I remember when it was like to be a Gamecock! I remember when fans and true fans stuck together. You can’t choose your family. But I chose to go to the University of South Carolina. And I am damn proud of it. Living in Florida now, I still am proud to be a Gamecock!
Just be proud of the University you graduated from!
Do I like the decisions made...No. But I will support them. Just like they supported you when you received your degree. You chose to go to the University of South Carolina...that means something!
It's not that we don't like the current stateof affairs. It's that we are dying for us to be better and relevant. Especially when we've seen how good we can be -- with the right leadership.But you had a choice. You could have gone to UGA, Florida, Virginia, Coastal, Clemson...you made that choice to go to the University of South Carolina. So you had a free ride everywhere else? It’s called life. We all had choices and we still do.
It’s just sad to see, hear and know that there are sad people. I’m sorry you don’t like your almumater’s football team. Think about the big picture. It’s about the players, the kids. Not us. The negativity is just so overwhelming.
Well Bama had players (more & better) than klem and didn't come close to beating them. And I think it's acknowledged (right or wrong) that Saban is better than swinney. Don't know I'd agree with you on this one.If UVA had players they would beat Clemson. Coaching is THE most important criteria when building an athlete or program. I think our argument back in 2015 has bitten us on the backside. “Gotta recruit better” which was on the level of “helps on the way”. While recruiting is important I swear it seems that many fans today are more concerned with that than the game. Surprised there’s not tailgating on signing day now. Sorry scoreboard matters and the game matters with coaching being the critical element to success.
I wish we were Wake ForestThey didn’t support me when I received a degree !!! I paid for it . I paid ALOT for it . It was a business transaction plain and simple . Same with this Athletic Dept . They make an insane amount of money and they are expected to succeed . Why should we support mediocrity ?? Do you continue to frequent a restaurant when the food sucks time after time. Blind loyalty is a death blow to a program . Why should there be any change for the better if we accept failure ?? The reason we are so upset is because we still care .... for now . I know a lot of us quit watching or attending games ,not because we are upset , but because we just don’t really care anymore . When Apathy sets in you become Vanderbilt or Wake Forest . Sorry I respect your loyalty but I just don’t think blind support is killing this program .
I stopped reading at this post. This guy ^ is wise indeed. Game day is just a party, without regard to the outcome of the sports contest. It's merely a social media event now, a photo op to show folks that "I was there, we had a blast even though we lost." As long as the money keeps rolling in, our executives have little need to expect a winning program. OBC said it best, and oftenThe perception is that we are not really serious about football. We have the facilities and the conference, but we lack the leadership. That's why it is perceived to be career suicide to come here and coach.
Mike McGee changed that for awhile by hiring Holtz then Spurrier. It looked like we were serious. But when we replaced Eric Hyman with Ray Tanner which led to the awkward end to the Spurrier years it confirmed what had been suspected. We aren't really interested in winning. Just the accouterments.
I stopped reading at this post. This guy ^ is wise indeed. Game day is just a party, without regard to the outcome of the sports contest. It's merely a social media event now, a photo op to show folks that "I was there, we had a blast even though we lost." As long as the money keeps rolling in, our executives have little need to expect a winning program. OBC said it best, and often
..it is what it is, and so forth.
If UVA had players they would beat Clemson. Coaching is THE most important criteria when building an athlete or program. I think our argument back in 2015 has bitten us on the backside. “Gotta recruit better” which was on the level of “helps on the way”. While recruiting is important I swear it seems that many fans today are more concerned with that than the game. Surprised there’s not tailgating on signing day now. Sorry scoreboard matters and the game matters with coaching being the critical element to success.
I agree with you. At least they were in top 25. We have sunk below WF. That's impossible but it's true.I wish we were Wake Forest
Percieved?Announcers referred to UGAs loss to us as embarrassing.
That’s about as low as you can go.
It’s very similar to promoting a great coordinator to head coach. The jobs are so completely different that success in one certainly does not guarantee success in the other. It’s a crap shoot for both the team and the coach. I think Venables understands that so he’s perfectly content to do what he loves and make millions doing It. I’m not sure that looking for a hot coordinator at a hot team is always the best way to approach looking for a head coach, and I certainly don’t think looking for a head coach to run an athletic department is the best idea.In my little very humble opinion we royally screwed up promoting the best baseball coach in the country to AD. Just bc he is a FANTASTIC baseball coach means nothing else!! All revenue generating sports minus WBB have gone downhill/plateaued.,etc and unfortunately WBB doesn’t generate much,
#stuckinmediocrity
In one of my business courses in college we studied the impact of perception. Case point.Right. We need to change the brand, the mascot, the colors - everything. And to answer the original question, I believe the national perception of us is 100% negative.
Everyone (including myself) thinks Tanner and the Board are idiots, but maybe they’re evil geniuses. Let’s face it, the primary goal of the athletic department is to generate revenue. USC is 16th on the list of public schools. Why spend money to buyout a coach if the revenue is rolling in regardless? USC will never be Alabama, LSU, Georgia or Florida, so why spend money trying to be? I think Ray is content to count the cash while he maintains the status quo.I stopped reading at this post. This guy ^ is wise indeed. Game day is just a party, without regard to the outcome of the sports contest. It's merely a social media event now, a photo op to show folks that "I was there, we had a blast even though we lost." As long as the money keeps rolling in, our executives have little need to expect a winning program. OBC said it best, and often
..it is what it is, and so forth.
But you had a choice. You could have gone to UGA, Florida, Virginia, Coastal, Clemson...you made that choice to go to the University of South Carolina. So you had a free ride everywhere else? It’s called life. We all had choices and we still do.
It’s just sad to see, hear and know that there are sad people. I’m sorry you don’t like your almumater’s football team. Think about the big picture. It’s about the players, the kids. Not us. The negativity is just so overwhelming.