clemson was the CONSENSUS #1 in '81 NOT the 'UNDISPUTED ' #1 ... clemson played a 3-loss Nebraska team in the '81 Orange Bowl ... NOT any of the #1 - #2 or #3 teams (and still just BARELY beat 'em - by LESS than a TD).
FIVE different 'qualified/certified/approved/trophy-granting/licensed' 1981 ranking/rating services named someone OTHER THAN clemson as the 1981 national champion. The AP writers voted for clemson (and that vote was FAR from unanimous) - the NCAA has a deal with the AP ... thus clemson was 'recognized' as the CONSENSUS champion.
clemson has NEVER won a "UNDISPUTED" football championship.
And that ain't gonna' change.
Congrats on one of your most ill-informed posts yet. That is quite an accomplishment with some of your previous whoppers. Five different "services" did not name someone other than Clemson National Champion. The NCAA has nor had any deal with the AP.
The NCAA makes note of four different services that recognized a champion in 1981 and they all selected Clemson. The definition of consensus.
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
Then, in the world of anyone who can print a newsletter or make a webpage is a "service," 2 not 5 such groups named someone other than Clemson. The NCF named Clemson along with four other teams champion that year.
The NCF is a data service used by the College Football Data Warehouse. The Dunkel System,
http://www.dunkelindex.com, is the lone organization (in a world where Kentucky claims more National Championships that South Carolina conference championships) to name someone other than Clemson a champion that year.
So, the poster you responded to may be slightly ill-informed to say "undisputed" but you are equally wrong that Clemson wasn't a consensus champion and then you're just making stuff up. And not being "undisputed" is not significant considering that there are few undisputed champions pre-BCS and even in the last ten seasons there are only five such champions.[/QUOTE]
clemson was the CONSENSUS #1 in '81 NOT the 'UNDISPUTED ' #1 ... clemson played a 3-loss Nebraska team in the '81 Orange Bowl ... NOT any of the #1 - #2 or #3 teams (and still just BARELY beat 'em - by LESS than a TD).
FIVE different 'qualified/certified/approved/trophy-granting/licensed' 1981 ranking/rating services named someone OTHER THAN clemson as the 1981 national champion. The AP writers voted for clemson (and that vote was FAR from unanimous) - the NCAA has a deal with the AP ... thus clemson was 'recognized' as the CONSENSUS champion.
clemson has NEVER won a "UNDISPUTED" football championship.
And that ain't gonna' change.
Congrats on one of your most ill-informed posts yet. That is quite an accomplishment with some of your previous whoppers. Five different "services" did not name someone other than Clemson National Champion. The NCAA has nor had any deal with the AP.
The NCAA makes note of four different services that recognized a champion in 1981 and they all selected Clemson. The definition of consensus.
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
Then, in the world of anyone who can print a newsletter or make a webpage is a "service," 2 not 5 such groups named someone other than Clemson. The NCF named Clemson along with four other teams champion that year.
The NCF is a data service used by the College Football Data Warehouse. The Dunkel System,
http://www.dunkelindex.com, is the lone organization (in a world where Kentucky claims more National Championships that South Carolina conference championships) to name someone other than Clemson a champion that year.
So, the poster you responded to may be slightly ill-informed to say "undisputed" but you are equally wrong that Clemson wasn't a consensus champion and then you're just making stuff up. And not being "undisputed" is not significant considering that there are few undisputed champions pre-BCS and even in the last ten seasons there are only five such champions.[/QUOTE]
Then you were hit with over 150 Major violations. Anybody could win a Championship with the rules yall broke!