Obviously not since you haven’t done it in months which probably explains why you get so upset
Why don’t you take a hike 😎
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Why don’t you take a hike 😎
Kornball is not a reliable news source
https://southcarolina.rivals.com/news/martin-with-no-plans-to-retire-gives-message-to-fans
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Ray has won more NCs and played for more than Dawn. Dawn can go and argue politics on Twitter with Gamecock fans.
USC doesn't need Dawn for advice. They need a real athletic director
This isn't a message to Carolina fans or Frank Martin. This is a message to Ray Tanner from the board not to extend Martin's contract and to start putting together a retirement package before the end of this so-called season.
Time to move on and get another coach who can do the job...
In my books it was never right to will players through fear. Only now it is being called out. Frank needs to change this brash style of coaching.
There is getting your butt chewed out for screwing up which is acceptable and then there is whatever you call it that Frank does.I know some coaches who get in your face but they do it and then move on to coaching the team.Frank just chews out and never gets to the coaching part.
I think you're wrong about that. Do I believe Frank could lighten up? Yes I do, and I've said so, but there's no doubt he gets a lot of coaching done.
I think he spends too much time ass chewing during TO's compared to other coaches I see.Just my opinion.
I don’t think you’re wrong. My belief is he does a lot of good coaching in practice and behind closed doors.
Huggins didn't recruit Beasley to KSU. Huggins hired Dalonte Hill from Charlotte and made him the highest-paid assistant coach in the country. Beasley decommitted from Charlotte and followed Hill to KSU. Hill coached the DC Assault AAU team and brought a lot of players to KSU.
I really don't care if we can get a coach that has been to the final four in the last 5 years. I want someone that is going to take us to the tournament in the future.
M.D. has led Michigan State to the CFP. Does that mean we should have hired him to lead our football team?⁸
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The McGuire
teams, as fun to watch as they could be. were regular season wonders...
post seadon blunders.
A few years ago I went to a concert at CLA. During intermission Frank stepped outside his personal suite. He and friends and family were enjoying the concert as well. No problem, except that it was just a few days before we played Clemson. I remember thinking that Frank should be watching film on Clemson that night. I really thought that after we lost that game to Clemson. Some people equate Frank to “old school” Bobby Knight because they both have hot tempers. It’s one thing to be passionate about winning, but it’s another thing to be frustrated because you didn’t prepare well enough.
Right Huggins recruited and hired his coach. My point it bringing it up was Beasley was NOT a Martin recruit as some like to claim.
I'm with you on that.I think Frank does a good job of coaching his guys in practice and getting them better.I just wish in games he'd spend about 5 seconds getting his point to the player getting reamed and move on.There's a fine line between coaching hard and overdoing it and In think Frank overdoes it at times.
I do think a lot of folks forget we had our best regular season in program history the year before the final 4 run and got screwed out of a bid. We were baaaaad when Frank took over. We had a nice stretch of 2 years sandwiched between too teams right about .500. Last years team was likely NIT bound but who knows maybe we make a run in the SEC tourny.
I'm torn, this year has been beyond disappointing and was a NCAAs or bust season in my mind (despite the media picking us to finish 8th in SEC). That being said COVID hit us harder than almost anyone in the country and I do think despite this season our program is in a better spot than in 2012. We've gone to the postseason 20 times in our history. Frank has two of those and would've had a third trip last year. We've had 6 .500 or better seasons in a row (not great but hasn't been done here since Frank McGuire was coach) I really don't understand how our bball program has been so poor located in a talent hotbed with the resources we have. Hoping for better days soon.
Maybe... You missed my point entirely though. Any hire we make right now will have a less impressive resume than the man we are firing. It is just as risky to let him go with no plan as it is to keep him.
Also, he had 6 consecutive winning seasons coming into this year, and it literally took a pandemic to derail that (potentially)- does anyone think we are really going to fire him right now? WANT TO? I get that... But does anyone actually think we WILL?
So you think the Covid derailed his winning seasons? This is where I struggle. If we're in the ballpark of a winning record and were improving, I may agree. We are a pretty bad team right now with some decent talent.
I can come up with a plan but my plan is irrelevant. Ray gets paid to put winning teams on the court. He needs to figure it out. When I suggest winning, I don't mean a winning % barely over .500. I am talking an NCAA tournament appearance every 3-4 years.
Alabama and Arkansas recently found coaches with less impressive resumes than Frank's. They seem to be doing fine.
Sometime a coach gets stale and the fan base loses hope. I think we are quickly approaching this point.
6 winning seasons while true, is only due to wins over D2 teams, let that sink in.
I am so sick and tired of the "we wont hire anyone better" BS. If that were true, we would not even be talking about hiring a new coach!
Oh and the covid excuse, EVERYONE is dealing with it. Our ladies program, who share a building, have not had any issues that I can remember. Martin has had it twice! Poor management by the men's basketball team leadership.
I don't disagree with how disappointing the season has been. It certainly has been. And the teams performance is on Frank, no one else. Ray is not paid to put winning teams on the court. His job is much more than that. Much.
It's clear he's not paid to put winning teams on the court and field!
Without a competitive team, ticket sales tank and your fans become uninterested. Without a winning program, it becomes just like men's soccer.
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I started this thread with a seemingly debunked "scoop" from my audio Biology classmate from USC days, Phil Cornblut. I think that's the class we shared.
Additionally, nobody at another school is coming after Frank.
Also, he says he's not retiring, and he's energized.
Ok...in the interest of accurate info, I admit I have been wrong about all of these things.
I have not been wrong about the lack of progress, but, hey, I have lost interest.
I'll never liked his court demeanor or style of play, but folks like him as a person.
That's saying something.
Keep Frank. It's clearly what a lot of fans want. Save the money. End the speculation. At some point, one of these times when he says, "I don't know why thats happening," maybe he will figure out something's not working on the court.
But, no big deal.
Batter up!
Additionally, nobody at another school is coming after Frank.
Also, he says he's not retiring, and he's energized.
Ok...in the interest of accurate info, I admit I have been wrong about all of these things.
I have not been wrong about the lack of progress, but, hey, I have lost interest.
I'll never liked his court demeanor or style of play, but folks like him as a person.
That's saying something.
Keep Frank. It's clearly what a lot of fans want. Save the money. End the speculation. At some point, one of these times when he says, "I don't know why thats happening," maybe he will figure out something's not working on the court.
But, no big deal.
Batter up!
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If it's behind closed doors, then how would you know it's good ?
I think about that a lot these days. When my mother was in hospice and dying she had visions. That King you speak of opened the door just a little for her so she would not be frightened.
This is not true if you look at the totality of the record.
We only have several on the roster who are now playing at the SEC level. The most recent additions have not shown me they are very likely to become SEC level players. This is the way I see it. Am I missing something?
Go back and watch how this team played at LSU this season when Frank wasn't on the sideline and that should tell you all you need to know. They looked more relaxed and played a pretty good game on the road. They lost but looked as good as I have seen this year in that game. They got beat on the boards because we only have one big guy right now.
If true I won’t be around to watch. I can’t stand him. Evidently a lot of recruits feel as I do too.
Frank Martin:
"He’s known throughout college basketball for yelling at players much more than for his strategy or charisma. One 2010 profile describes his “death stare” and “pit bull temperament,” and also throws in “fiery” and “infamous for a two-word profanity.” (And that profile was in the New York Times.) To some, the guy has become less coach and more caricature – someone who belongs in a singlet and not a suit."
sports.yahoo.com
"He’s known throughout college basketball for yelling at players much more than for his strategy or charisma. One 2010 profile describes his “death stare” and “pit bull temperament,” and also throws in “fiery” and “infamous for a two-word profanity.” (And that profile was in the New York Times.) To some, the guy has become less coach and more caricature – someone who belongs in a singlet and not a suit."
Why Frank Martin will never stop yelling
Editor’s note: This story originally appeared on Yahoo Sports on July 12, 2012, two months after Frank Martin took the head coaching job at South Carolina. In fact, the only thing Frank Martin’s expressions seem to scream is screaming.
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